India has been diverting nuclear materials to make weapons: Pakistan

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    India has been diverting nuclear materials to make weapons: Pakistan
    PTI | Updated: May 19, 2017, 06.55 PM IST
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    • Pakistan accuses India of diverting nuclear materials obtained for peaceful purposes under NSG waiver to make weapons
    • Zakaria: NSG states have a responsibility to take into account well-founded concerns while considering transfer of nuclear material to India and its NSG membership bid.
    Pakistan's foreign ministry spokesman Nafees Zakaria (AP photo)

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    ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has accused India of diverting nuclear materials it had obtained for peaceful purposes under the NSG waiver to make weapons.

    Foreign Office spokesman Nafees Zakaria yesterday told reporters that Pakistan has been underscoring for decades the risks of diversion by India of imported nuclear fuel, equipment and technology, received pursuant to civil nuclear cooperation agreements and the 2008 Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) waiver.+

    "The concerns over diversion are neither new nor unfounded. India enjoys the rare distinction of diverting nuclear material, obtained on its peaceful use commitment, to its nuclear weapons programme," he said.

    "The past and potential misuse of nuclear materials by India entails not only serious issues of nuclear proliferation but also carry grave implications for strategic stability in South Asia and national security of Pakistan."

    He said media reports and papers substantiate an otherwise largely "ignored fact" that India's nuclear weapons programme is the fastest growing in the world.

    Talking about a paper recently released by Harvard Kennedy School, he said that this paper and other several reports corroborate growing concerns related to the use of nuclear material acquired by India from abroad in its existing and future unsafeguarded nuclear reactors, plants and facilities for development of nuclear weapons.

    "The recent Belfer paper inter alia concludes that India has accumulated nuclear material for over 2600 nuclear weapons," he said.

    He said that NSG states have a responsibility to take into account these well-founded concerns while considering transfer of nuclear material to India and its NSG membership bid.

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    He claimed that many international nuclear experts, think tanks and media reports in the past years have consistently raised concerns over the lack of transparency, absence of international safeguards, and the potential for diversion of unsafeguarded nuclear material for nuclear weapons in India.

    Zakaria also said that the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) was establishing units in Kashmir, which were managed by non-Kashmiri activists.

    "Their increasing presence in (Kashmir) is to terrorise Kashmiris and deter them from participating in the self- determination movement," he alleged.

    Zakaria called on the the international community to take notice of the situation in Kashmir and condemned the ban on social media and TV channels in the valley.

    He said Pakistan extends full cooperation to United Nations Military Observers in India and Pakistan (UNMOGIP) in monitoring situation on the Line of Control and the Working Boundary.

    Talking about the issue of medical visas by India, he said most patients who were travelling to India from Pakistan have serious ailments requiring urgent medical attention.
    "Despite paying for their treatment themselves, these patients are being deprived of their basic right to health, due to political consideration on the part of India," he said.
    "While granting or denying a visa is a sovereign right of any country, this Indian move is unprecedented in inter-state relations," he said.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ake-weapons-pakistan/articleshow/58748563.cms

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    Here's link to Belfar Report:

    https://www.belfercenter.org/sites/default/files/files/publication/India's Nuclear Exceptionalism.pdf

    A few points in Report:

    India’s known uranium reserves—40,980 tons net.

    If India chose to expand its nuclear arsenal in the most realistic way conceivable through the use of its PHWRs, it would be able to do so entirely on the strength of its own resources.

    Adopting such a mode of operations would allow India the option and the capacity to produce 12,135-13,370 kilograms of weapons-grade plutonium during the lifetime of these reactors.

    Enough to produce between 2,023–2,228 nuclear weapons over and above those already existing in the Indian arsenal.

    Pakistanis are only now waking up to the reality that India is the only other country after US to have successfully tested a reactor grade fuel based nuclear device in Shakti-2. We have been maintaing a nuclear arsenal of no less 400 to 450 from 1990s which should now me more than that which is now being confirmed by this report.
     
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    A lot of MYTH about India's Nuclear-Weapons capabilities will be broken if India-Pakistan War takes place now or in future. A city state Israel is sitting on 200 thermonuclear weapons and people think India is having 80-90 or 100 Nuclear weapons which is a figure lower than that of Pakistan. Even the weapons quality and number of thermonuclear weapons in India's arsenal is much better and bigger. The Chinese are well aware of our capabilities and hence do not want to go to war with India directly, So are using proxy Pakistan. God forbid if ever we go to war I fear that China could use the opportunity to launch nuclear attack on India from Pakistan (false flag), while maintaining itself away from the situation and saying we are not responsible for that and it was Pakistan which launched the attack using their weapons.

    Pakistan has now realized this (through deliberate Chinese leaks) that it can't compete with India and their elites know if war breaks out there will be no Pakistan and so are selling their country like there is no tomorrow to China in the name of CPEC the population at large and madrasa illiterates can't see this and it will be too late before they realize that their country has been sold by their political and military elites who will be first to evacuate in case of war.

    A country which can't even make a moped engine was able to make Nuclear weapons was always doubtful and surely these were ready to use Chinese vintages from 1968 lop nor tests but yes it doesn't change the fact that they do posses nukes and is enough of headache to India. But to compare it with India which is highly industrialized and has its own Advanced Nuclear Program which involves designing and manufacturing of Nuclear reactors for Uranium, Plutonium and even Thorium Based Nuclear plants was ridiculous.

    At the very least India has Nuclear weapons comparable to China's numbers. Also we have tactical battlefield nukes too, if someone doubts this then he/she should realize we tested 3 Sub-kiloton weapons during pokhran-2 (100 tons, 300 tons, & 500 tons) these have dual usage these can be used for tactical weapons and also for thermonuclear weapons (first stage). Poor Pakistanis are now coming to terms.
     
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    What kind of foolish statement is this? They don't even know how to put statements.

    Arre Bhai, to produce a nuclear weapon , nuclear material is used. Why would any one use pastry and chocolates to produce a nuclear device ? :crazy: They can claim it if they visited the lab but they don't have any evidence.
     
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    in about 15 years we should do for vietnam , what china has doe for pakistan in terms of helping with military nuclear weapons ....we can also help taiwan and south korea as well .....we should ask for covert bases in vietnam and mongolia ...... we should help taiwan at discount pries , above cost but below maket pries for any and all weapons systems

    this will show china that they have used SL and pakland as proxies now is our turn and we an do better ~~

    in fact whole of ASEAN countries will welcome india defence systems - we should hurry up with our make in india defence programmes as ASEAN countries are our captive market

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    khesiyaani billi................
     
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    Dude stop posting the paid articles from Pakistan to defame India.

    No one cares in the world about what Pakistani fake propaganda says.

     
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    Is right...

    Pakis will find all excuses to carry on their own proliferation.
     
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    Enlightening
    That mean each and every device we tested had its own purpose.
    I would love to read more about such things, can you kindly point me to some content.
     
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    Please read belfar report from the link provided. The author has taken all the points from there. Pakis are waking to the reality now that India is in another league and they have been left far behind in nuclear field.
     
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    What should I say. I just got to know from one of my friend that we had actually detonated 7 nuclear weapons in pokhran-2 in 1998 and not 5 as declared. Was a NEWS to me too but if he says so then it definitely is correct as he is veteran and insider.
     
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    A chauhan "अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथैव च: l" Senior Member

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    Though India has more nukes than Pakistan could imagine but this is too far stretched whining won't help Pakis.
     
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    I have a news for all of us jingos. India has tactical nukes.

    There was a debate on LSTV last week when a Suraksha Salahkar revealed it. He said that Russia was lobbying India to buy the 152mm artillery but we refused and went ahead with the 155mm standard because our tactical nukes need that caliber.
     
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    The sixth and seventh nuke test in pokhran-2 were of 155mm & 214mm, ENJOY.
     
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    A chauhan "अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथैव च: l" Senior Member

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    Hmm interesting ! Ha ha then what would happen to our massive retaliation and annihilation plan.:hmm:
     
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    achar dal dete hai..:hehe:...Those plans are for our bigger Bully China :cruisin2: not for this tiny pig pakistan

     
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    Porkistan ki L for LAG Gayi.

    Porkies don't have any tactical weapons. They intend to use normal 6 to 10 KT nuke on advancing Indian Army corps and that too in their own land if Indian army becomes unstoppable. Whereas tactical weapons are howitzer or tank gun launched with just 50-300 ton max 500 ton TNT and not in KT s like Porkies, which we have from 1987/89 in our inventory. We had 400-450 Nukes in 1995/97 itself and now it should be more than that.
     
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    Distracting local awam from the humiliation at LOC, CPEC & now at ICJ.
     
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    Tactical nukes, we have lots and lots of these. Most importantly we can create more any time and no country will get to know about it.



    Fire these on border areas and the enemy ground troops will get immobilized. Only option left for the enemy is to use paratroopers.
     
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    These Cameramen are Not afraid of radiation ? :hmm:
     

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