India forced to source warships from others’

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  1. Galaxy

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    'India forced to source warships from others’


    More at: - ‘India forced to source warships from others’ - The Times of India



     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    Battle of shipyards puts warship production on hold
    New Delhi, September 27, DHNS:

    Acting on complaints from three private ship yards, the defence ministry has put on hold a proposed joint venture between state-owned Mazagon Dock Ltd (MDL) in Mumbai that manufactures India’s warships and submarines and private firm Pipavav shipyard in Gujarat for future production of indigenous battleships.

    Battle of shipyards puts warship production on hold
     
  4. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    This article can be expanded to India is forced to source 90% of all it's weaponry. Indian govt has never planed for or invested in building a military infrastructure. The only where we area almost 90% indigenous is in missile development/production,Many delays in many programs come from trying to build the infrastructure for TOT one good example of this is the Scorpene sub program.
     
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    agentperry Senior Member Senior Member

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    myopic vision plagues MoD. the first thing that irritates me is the lack of balls in both nda and upa. they both defers from issuing white paper in their respective terms. all the development in military industry in india is a result of knee jerk reaction and have no co-relation or correspondence with eachother. still i think navy is unclear how many submarine they need in case plan and pns gets combined strength of 100 or so beyond 2020. they just think single handedly and in accordance with current fleet of enemy
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Starting with VK Krishna Menon making coffee machines in the Indian Ordnance Factories!
     
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    I know someone who worked at a well known Ordnance factory in India - their "managers" were more busy for IAS/ Army and politicians visits to the factory than about production or quality. The only time that these managers were seen in the facilities were during such visits - other times there were almost no managerial supervision. The workers are demotivated, underpaid by industry standards and have very little in terms of facilities/ training. No wonder nothing gets done in time in those factories and nothing good comes out of them ...
     
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    Sir, you were there in 62. How come this incompetent buffoon was not thrashed publicly? Why no one protested about his very existence in India post 62?
     
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    Thats hitting the nail!

    Capability building takes time. MDL will might as well roll out P75A. 8 months gap in unit delivery is not bad.
     
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    The Problem also lies in the massive underutilization and general loss of capabilities since 1947, when the brits left we had the second largest defence industrial complex in Asia second only to the Japs(who were converting many of their facilities to produce cars and tractors by then). It was only the Myopia and misplaced gandhianism of successive governments at the centre that has ultimately led to the sorry state of affairs today.For are we not the same nation who supplied the steel rails on which the British rode triumphantly into Baghdad in WW1, are we not the same nation that built no less that 4655 Tatanagar armored cars in WW2. The Crime lies not in augmenting what we already had but in allowing what we have to fritter away. The Singaporeans once approached us for help in building their defence industry we declined and the Israelis helped them to set up the firm known as Singapore tech today(the same company that wants to sell us the pegasus today).What we need is for the OFB to be thrown to the dogs of the open market labor unions be damned! i However believe that no one in the present Indian polity has the balls for that!
     
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    That is a question worth hundreds of bilions dollars! Where can indian gov find these money? Let's check how other countries finance their military industry building up:

    Japan, from 1860s to 1940s, between 50% to 80% of its gov income were invested in its military building.
    China, CCP intentionally minimize chinese salaries for 60 years to finance its industrilization.
     
  12. LETHALFORCE

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    India has plans to spend 100 billion in the next few years but I expect that it will be triple this amount PAKFA deal alone will be over 50 billion. India's defense spending is still around 3% of GDP.
     
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    GoI should increase the defence budget - make it 5% ( for 10 years only ) , that money must spend for military infrastructure only .
     

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