India Catching Up With China And Pakistan

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  1. average american

    average american Senior Member Senior Member

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    India Catching Up With China And Pakistan
    by James Dunnigan
    January 24, 2013

    The Indian Army has been embarrassed into finally equipping all of its tanks with night vision equipment. This comes after much media discussion of why 80 percent of Pakistani and all of the Chinese tanks have night vision systems but only 20 percent of India’s do. The main problem is the monumentally ineffective, obstructionist, and slothful Indian military procurement bureaucracy. When it comes to counterproductive government bureaucracy, India leads the world.It’s not that the Indian Army has not been trying. Starting in 2001, and for five years after that, Indians struggled with the French Catherine thermal imagers installed in their new T-90 tanks. Thermal imaging forms a picture based on the heat it detects. Thus it can see through dust storms and fog and spot warm bodies and vehicle engines. This is the most effective form of night vision (as opposed to light enhancement and infrared illumination).

    With the problems fixed in the first 600, India has bought another 400 Catherine Thermal Imaging systems in 2008. The Catherine FC thermal imaging cameras are built by electronics manufacturer Thales, whose thermal imaging systems are popular in the United States as well. The U.S. Marine Corps recently bought thermal imaging binoculars from Thales. India was a special case because there were severe heat problems with their Catherine sights, which explains why India turned to the Israeli TIFACS (thermal fire control systems) for upgrading several thousand T-72s. India has already bought thousands of smaller Israeli thermal devices for the infantry. The Israeli thermal devices are built more with heat problems in mind.

    Previously, only aircraft and tanks could carry the bulky thermal imaging equipment. But over the last decade, new technology has made it possible to build one kilogram (2.2 pound) thermal imaging rifle scopes. There are also thermal binoculars can detect large vehicles up to 10 kilometers or more (and individuals at about half that distance). In a place like northern India, you can keep an eye on a large area, as enemy troops cannot hide the heat their bodies produce. India has a lot of fog and mist that normally hides a lot of activity, as well as frequent dust storms. The larger thermal imagers, like those used in tanks, have about the same range as the binoculars but show more detail and cost about five times as much.

    The Indian Army also wants to buy more thermal sights for rifles and machine-guns as well, for helicopter pilots.
     
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  3. hit&run

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    Even a painting brush is procured by Govt. Indian agencies after bribe and commission.

    In another thread a link posted by a member reveals that Arjun tank is heavy because of low grade steel used and CBI is now investigating scams done while procuring other components for the same tank.

    If you read any news that India is trying to buy something or any Indian agency is going to construct/produce something. Assume without a doubt it is a another scam in making.
     
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    I notice that India only has about 3500 tanks,,, is that right, compared to China having 11,000 Russia 50,000. That does not sound correct.
     
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    India has to find a cure for this lame bureaucracy
     
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    Our economy is different it is understandable. What does it matter to us how much Russia has, they've been India's friends from a long time. China and America are the ones which worry India.
     
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    3500 active tanks. Around 5000 are in reserve
     
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    farhan_9909 Tihar Jail Banned

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    pakistan close to 3500 as well
     
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    srikanth Regular Member

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    Why doesn't India have a good defense R & D, if Israel can do this why can't India? We should really decrease dependency on foreign manufacturers.
     
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    Israel is on warfooting 24/7 365 days a year. Its people know that if they don't improve their military, their existence will be threatened. In India, barely any politician knows the difference between a t-90 and a bmp-2. For them, they are all tanks.
     
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    China has less MBTs than India if you count in T72.
     

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