India and Japan: A new alliance in Asia

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  1. Srinivas_K

    Srinivas_K Senior Member Senior Member

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    India and Japan: A new alliance in Asia

    After decades of mutual neglect, New Delhi and Tokyo are set to build a new alliance that may well change the strategic configuration of Asia in the coming decades.

    During his recent state visit to Japan, Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has proclaimed Indo-Japanese relations a “natural and indispensable alliance” and stressed that “India and Japan have a shared vision of a rising Asia. The India-Japan partnership has never been more important to our two countries than it is today.” In Tokyo, Singh and his Japanese counterpart, Shinzo Abe, signed a number of major infrastructure and defense-technology agreements, and agreed to speed up dialogue on Indo-Japanese nuclear cooperation and more joint naval exercises.

    Viewing from New Delhi, as Prime Minister Singh put it, “the time has come for India and Japan to build a strong contemporary relationship, one involving global and strategic partnership that will have a great significance for Asia and the world as a whole.”

    Viewing from Tokyo, as Prime Minister Abe described, “India from the west, Japan from the east, the confluence of the two deep-rooted democracies is already one important part of the international common goods for the 21st century. I am of a belief that it is the important task that Japan and India should shoulder to ensure that Asia remain in peace and prosperity.”

    All the formalities aside, it is a rising China’s assertiveness that has brought the two Asian democracies closer. The Singh-Abe Summit, report Rama Lakshmi and Chico Harlan of Washington Post, “send a not-so-subtle message to Beijing in the wake of a border row between India and China as well as the dispute between Japan and China in the East China Sea. The goal, analysts say, is to isolate China with a view to limiting its territorial ambitions in the region.”

    “It is quite clear that all this is happening with China as the backdrop, because both Japan and India look upon China as a threat,” said Lalit Mansingh, former Indian Ambassador to the United States. “The Japanese prime minister wants to redefine the Indian Ocean and the Pacific region as a community of maritime democracies. That automatically excludes China. This is an important and clever move by India, too.”

    China’s rapid rise is perhaps the most significant variable in the Asian geostrategic landscape today. China’s assertive diplomatic and military stance and Beijing’s willingness to test the diplomatic and military courage of its neighbors has coincided with a “new rising sun” in the Asia-Pacific: Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, the first Post-War Japanese leader who is determined to bring Japan back to its past glory.

    Since assuming the office of prime minister in December 2012, Abe has vowed to “bring back a strong Japan, strong enough to do even more good for the betterment of the world” and declared that “Japan is not, and will never be, a second-tier country.” Most recently, Prime Minster Abe has openly criticized China as attempting to “change the status quo by force” in terms of its relations with Japan and other Asian nations and strongly urged Beijing to respect the “rule of law” and stop from “doing wrong.”

    Of all post-war Japanese leaders, Shinzo Abe has been the most enthusiastic about the future of a strong India-Japan alliance. In Prime Minster Abe’s words, “a strong India is in the best interest of Japan, and a strong Japan is in the best interest of India.” Abe also has a great deal of admiration for Indian leaders and has referred Manmohan Singh as a “mentor-like leader.”

    Encouraged by Shinzo Abe, New Delhi finally decides it is time to move forward on its ties with Tokyo. As a recent India Time editorial pointed out, “For far too long India has been hesitant in engaging Japan for fear of upsetting China. New Delhi is at last shedding this ambivalence, and Prime Minister Shinzo Abe of Japan has been one of the strongest votaries of a tighter Delhi-Tokyo embrace.”

    “All the elements of an emerging alliance between the two Asian powers are on view, including shared democratic values, economic and technological complementarities, common concerns about the rise of China and a joint commitment for a stable balance of power in Asia,” said C. Raja Mohan, one of India’s leading strategic analysts. “As Japan and India move from an indifferent relationship of the last many decades to an all encompassing strategic partnership, Asia’s geopolitics is bound to alter irrevocably.”

    Xiaoxiong Yi is the director of Marietta College’s China Program.

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    SATISH DFI Technocrat Stars and Ambassadors

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    With our bureaucracy and indecisiveness nothing is going to fructify.
     
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    If India decides to cast its lot with Japan, China may formalize its cooperation with Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, and Nepal.
     
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    India's decision to cast its lot with Japan is in direct response to China's clandestine help to pakistan's in its missile & Nuclear program...

    As far as cooperation with Sri Lanka, Bangladesh or Nepal, good luck to you... India will acclerate oil exploration in South China Sea with its friends boardring China... you know whom I meant...
     
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    That's not the case - otherwise why didn't India craft an alliance with Japan in the 1990s, when one could argue AQ Khan was actually getting nuclear secrets from China, as opposed to now, when China doesn't help Pakistan any longer?

    Making foreign policy on the basis of what a country did twenty years ago is stupid. At least China's rivalry with Japan is founded on Japan's implicit threat to China's sea lanes.

    And then China and India get into a Cold War in Asia. Lovely...
     
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    Look back at the history you will see when Japan was isolated and shunned by all countries in Asia and its surroundings it was India who provided hand of friendship to Japan, at that time India itself was in bad shape economically and that all India could give to Japan.

    One more thing to be made clear here, India always condem Japan’s crime against humanity in the second world war be it against Philippines, Korea, Chinese or any other countries in that matter.

    China's help to Pakistan in Nuclear & Missile program is very well understood in India, as a common ordinary Inidan citizen let me tell you up front that in this respect India will never forget and forgive China.

    China will ensure that Japan comes out of its pacifist mindset...


    There is a some sort of war of "something" between the two going on, please read the developement very closely... Inidia will assert more in very near future... make no mistake...
     
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    Will that make any difference that what is actually on the ground covertly? I don't think so. An invisible enemy is harder to fight. But once China comes into foreground, it's game over for China internationally.
     
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    Cute. Formalize?

    You mean overt nuclear proliferation rather than the covert one right now?

    China has played all it's cards..
     
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    We don't have to 'argue' that China gave the nuclear secrets to Pakistan. It is a definitive.

    And if making foreign policy on the basis of what a country did twenty years ago is stupid.. then why is China making it's foreign policy based on invisible threat of Sea lanes as you mentioned from a 'pacifist' Japan? Why are you still making foreign policies based on your '100 years of shame'? Stop bullshitting us. If there is any threat to Sea lanes, it is China and the only country that is stupid enough to claim the entire sea upto few miles of 10 other countries. :frusty:
     
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    formalization means nothing...the covert co-operation underway for nearly 50 years has already made life hell for millions of people in subcontinent.
     
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    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

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    why do you say that ? when it is mms singh who in fact has initiated this new era of (military) co-operation ?

    oh that will be a disaster ! ccp-lizard's strength comes from deception ( sun tzu ? ) - by formalising you give the game away

    dont do that - continue with your already succesful poilcy of :- smiling broadly with indian people, shaking hands, echanging cultural groups, pretending to be friends but in fact preparing for war
     
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    OK.Fine with us.India should formally recognise the Tibetan Government in exile in Dharmashala as the only legitimate representative of occupied Tibet.In addition East Turkestan should be declared as disputed territory under illegal occupation by a foreign power.Tit for tat.Lovely.All this does not bode well for anybody.The ball is in Beijing's court.Your greed and aggressive nazi like territorial ambitions will lead to disastrous consequences.Act like a mature superpower and not like a four year old kid with a loaded gun!!!!!!!
     
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    Alliance with Japan and other East Asian countries is just empty words.The present leadership in power is too weak and scared to make any sort of aggressive stand against
    PRC.I have always believed that the only weapon to contain PRC -beside a strong military -is a sustained high economic growth.And thats not going to happen under Congress led government.
     
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    Tall words, nothing more.
    That is not alliance. Has there been a treaty between India and Japan since 1952?

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    And then China starts giving Assam secessionists and Naxalites big boy weapons...
     
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    Isn't this how all diplomacy is conducted nowadays, between China and the US, between China and Japan, between Russia and NATO, between Russia and the Arab States, between the Arab States and Israel, etc...
     
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    That's false - China has plenty, plenty more cards to play in South Asia, if it so desires.

    Who do you think has been keeping more radical elements of Rawalpindi on a leash so far? Not America, that's for sure.
     
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    isnt it interesting how this person failed to include india in the list ........ because we dont play that double game !

    pretend to be friends and prepare for war ....

    or as prc-lizard is now planning to invest 160 billion in andhra China ready to invest $160 billion in Andhra Pradesh | NDTV.com while at the same time staking the claim on our territory Riding on horses, Chinese troops violate LAC again - The Times of India

    i urge the goi to reject lizard's offer of investment - the ulterior motive and hidden agenda will cost us a lot more in the slightly longer term

    andhra is a sensitive area and lizard will try to play the division that exists there plus it is also close to naxal infested areas ..... lots of hidden agenda possibilities for the lizard
     
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    Assam secessionists and Naxalites do not lack whatever you propose...but none of them ever stood any chance against Indian paramilitary forces.

    An IED here & there, or pitting in 2000 clueless villagers against a remote police post manned by less than a dozen policeman is the greatest bravery that these scum have ever managed.

    PRC is already doing the best it can, but alas.... its going nowhere..all damp squib.
     
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    Except by your logic, then India should adopt a default air of skepticism towards investment from most foreign countries

    Or maybe that's how it already is (c.f. walmart, enron, bofors, etc)
     

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