In overture to China, Japan PM may skip visit to war dead shrine

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  1. t_co

    t_co Senior Member Senior Member

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    A step in the right direction.

    In overture to China, Japan PM may skip visit to war dead shrine | Reuters

     
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    These freaks! Visit, no visit, visit, as if it were their trump card in diplomacy that can be played again and again. Chinese are not gullible now.

    Is there a "shrine" in Germany for "war time dead" such as Hitler, Himmler or Goebbels? What would have Jews done if yes?

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    Yasukuni Shrine is in Tokyo, what the hell does it have to do with Chinese? And a shrine to war dead anywhere has nothing to do with honoring totalitarian leaders, Chinese are mastering the art of being offended for political gain. Nobody should be fooled.

    I am developing a hearty dislike for Chinese drama queens on DFI. I had thought that BG Ray was sometimes too aggressive with Chinese posters, but now I understand completely. They are unrelenting with their propaganda, and I am sure their presence here is centrally controlled for the most part.

    And just to be clear, J20! is an exception in my opinion.
    @Ray @J20!
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    I think Chinese get spooked every time anyone visits that Shinto shrine because they are reminded of Nanking!

    Nanking seems to have etched an indelible mark of fear in the Chinese psyche.
     
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    Nanking should never be forgotten.

    But communism killed more Chinese than the Japanese did.
     
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    You mean that the Chinese people are dispensable?
     
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    Not all American agree with WGE as one of the war criminal in there was the one responsible for bombing the Pearl Harbour
     
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    If u're okay with worshiping war criminals like Hideki Tojo, who was hanged, or Isoroku Yamamoto, that's your choice. But to me they're the same stuffs as Himmler or Georing.

    If u dislike this or that pls don''t reply to me lest I lose my temper.
     
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    My personal feeling is that, unlike Germen who learnt from history, the Japanese are trying hardly to beutified their criminal act during the War. A country refuses to admit their pass criminal act will repeat the same act in future. That is why the Chinese, the Korean, the people in SEA and even the Americans worry.
     
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    America will be the only winner in any tension or war in Asia. So, Americans will happy to see this.
     
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    I would say China is the main culprit here, its expansionist intension is not only forcing Japan to take a more aggressive approach also the other smaller countries are forced to align USA for good…
     
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    Of course, just as Auschwitz is part of the Jewish people's collective memory, so is Nanking part of China's collective memory. @W.G.Ewald
     
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    Not necessarily the main culprit. In any competition of dick waving, it takes two to tango. Certainly the nations of East Asia could have simply acceded to the new strategic environment and paid heed to the natural course of Chinese leadership, much as was the case from 800-1800 AD.
     
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    “The best fighter is never angry.”
    ― Lao Tzu

    And a shrine to Japanese war dead is not a shrine to Japanese war criminals.
     
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    As I said, Nanking should never be forgotten.
     
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    Since war criminals were inside the shrine, the shrine is not normal shrine anymore.
     
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    Imagine if a German military memorial had private crypts for Hermann Goering, Wilhelm Keitel, Otto Ohlendorf, Jost, Naumann, Blobel, Blum, Sandberger, et. al., and Angela Merkel visited that memorial hall on Germany's equivalent of Veterans' Day to pay homage and 'pray for peace' - then asked France, Poland, or Russia for 'understanding'.
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    Then ... Why is that all are showing their dicks to China ??


    If one goes by your logic north of China by now should be part of Mongolia... while Manchuria and south of China a part of Japan...
     
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    Well, it could be , but only if Mongolia and Japan are strong enough. Otherwise that just a joke.
     

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