In Himalayan arms race, China one-ups India

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    Special Report: In Himalayan arms race, China one-ups India | Reuters

    It has all the appearance of an arms race on the roof of the world.

    Asia's two great powers are facing off here in the eastern Himalayan mountains. China has vastly improved roads and is building or extending airports on its side of the border in Tibet. It has placed nuclear-capable intermediate missiles in the area and deployed around 300,000 troops across the Tibetan plateau, according to a 2010 Pentagon report.

    India is in the midst of a 10-year plan to scale up its side. In the state of Arunachal Pradesh, new infantry patrols started on the frontier in May, as part of a surge to add some 60,000 men to the 120,000 already in the region. It has stationed two Sukhoi 30 fighter squadrons and will deploy the Brahmos cruise missile.

    "If they can increase their military strength there, then we can increase our military strength in our own land," Defence Minister A.K. Anthony told parliament recently.

    Reuters journalists on a rare journey through the state discovered, however, that India is lagging well behind China in building infrastructure in the area.

    The main military supply route through sparsely populated Arunachal is largely dirt track. Along the roadside, work gangs of local women chip boulders into gravel with hammers to repair the road, many with babies strapped to their backs. Together with a few creaky bulldozers, this is the extent of the army's effort to carve a modern highway from the liquid hillside, one that would carry troops and weaponry to the disputed ceasefire line in any conflict with China.

    India and China fought a brief frontier war here in 1962, and Chinese maps still show all of Arunachal Pradesh within China's borders. The continuing standoff will test whether these two Asian titans - each with more than a billion people, blossoming trade ties and ambitions as global powers - can rise peacefully together. With the United States courting India in its "pivot" to Asia, the stakes are all the higher.

    FIGHT AN INSURGENCY

    "With the kind of developments that are taking place in the Tibet Autonomous Region, and infrastructure that is going up, it gives a certain capability to China," India's army chief, Gen. V.K. Singh, told Reuters the day before he left office on May 31. "And you say at some point, if the issue does not get settled, there could be some problem."

    Indian analysts and policymakers went further in their "Non-Alignment 2.0" report released this year. It argues India cannot "entirely dismiss the possibility of a major military offensive in Arunachal Pradesh," and suggests New Delhi should prepare to fight an insurgency war if attacked.

    "We feel very clearly that we need to develop the border infrastructure, engage with our border communities, do that entire development and leave our options open on how to respond to any border incursion, in case tensions ratchet up," Rajiv Kumar, one of the report's authors, said in an interview.

    Indian media frequently run warnings of alleged Chinese plots, and both militaries drill near the border. In March, while China's foreign minister was visiting Delhi, the Indian air force and army held an exercise dubbed "Destruction" in Arunachal's mountains. Three weeks later, China said its J-10 fighters dropped laser-guided bombs on the Tibetan plateau in high-altitude ground-attack training.

    NUCLEAR WEAPONS

    Some policymakers play down the Arunachal face-off. Nuclear weapons on both sides would deter all-out war, and the forbidding terrain makes even conventional warfare difficult. A defense hotline and frequent meetings between top Chinese and Indian officials, including regular gatherings at the border, help ease the pressure. Bilateral trade, which soared to $74 billion in 2011 from a few billion dollars a decade ago, is also knitting ties.

    From China's perspective, the border dispute with India doesn't rank with Beijing's other border or military concerns, such as Taiwan. Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Weimin struck an optimistic tone.

    "China and India are in consensus on the border issue, will work together to protect peace and calm in the border region, and also believe that by jointly working toward the same goal, negotiations on the border will yield results," Liu said.

    Hu Shisheng, a Sino-India expert at the government-backed China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations, said the border dispute casts an oversized shadow in the Indian media - where the China threat is perceived to be strong. But any voices within the Chinese military that advocate seizing the region are weak, he said.

    "China's military could take the territory by force, but maintaining the gains in the long term would be exceptionally difficult," Hu said, noting the tough terrain.

    Yet with both nations undertaking massive naval modernizations and brushing up against each other's interests across South Asia and in the South China Sea, the festering dispute risks being the catalyst for a violent flare-up, some security analysts say.

    STRING OF PEARLS

    For thousands of years, Chinese and Indian empires were kept apart by the Himalayas. After years of fast economic growth, the rivals now have the resources to consolidate and patrol their most distant regions.

    India is starting to feel fenced in by Chinese agreements with its neighbors that are not strictly military but could be leveraged in a conflict.

    Indians sometimes refer to these as a "string of pearls," which includes China's force deployments in Tibet, access to a Myanmar naval base, and Chinese construction of a deepwater port in Hambantota, Sri Lanka, and another in Gwadar, Pakistan.

    Some in the Chinese government worry that India is becoming part of a U.S. strategy to contain China. The United States has sold $8 billion in weapons to India, which is spending about $100 billion over 10 years to modernize its military.

    The two nations are unlikely to go to war, but have no choice but to add to their military strength on the border as they gain clout, a senior Indian official with direct experience of Sino-Indian relations told Reuters.

    "It is the currency of power," he said. In the border negotiations, "we are ready to compromise, but up to a point."

    MUDDY COIL

    The road to Tawang, a center of Tibetan Buddhism by the border, is one of India's most strategic military supply routes. Growling convoys of army trucks bring troops, food and fuel through three Himalayan passes on the 320-kilometer (199-mile) muddy coil to camps dotted along the disputed border.

    On a road trip in late May and early June, Reuters found much of the 14,000-foot-high road to be a treacherous rutted trail, often blocked by landslides or snow, despite years of promises to widen and resurface it.


    At its start in the insurgent-hit tropical plains of Assam state, the Tawang road is guarded by soldiers armed with Israeli rifles and shoulder-mounted rocket launchers who sweep for roadside bombs. Near the end - a tough two-day drive - is the 300-year-old white-walled Tawang monastery.

    In the higher reaches, the army convoys struggle along rock-walled valleys to bases near the McMahon Line, the border agreed to by India and Tibet in a 1914 treaty and now the de facto frontier with China. It is the only way in. Supplies are taken to even remoter army posts by 50-mule caravans on three-day treks.


    Along the tortuous road, soldiers can be seen shooting at targets on a firing range. Rows of ammunition sheds behind barbed wire dot the landscape on a chilly plateau shared with yaks.

    New fuel depots and small bases are springing up. In addition to deploying extra troops, missiles and fighter jets in Arunachal, India plans to buy heavy-lift choppers to carry light artillery to the mountains.

    BUILDING AIRPORTS

    China rules restive Tibet with an iron hand, and tightly restricts visits by foreign media, making independent assessments of the military presence in the region hard. But all signs indicate much more sophisticated infrastructure on the Chinese side of the border.

    During the last government-organized visit to Tibet, in 2010, a Reuters journalist saw half a dozen Su-27 fighters, some of the most advanced and lethal aircraft China owns, operating from Lhasa's Gonggar airport. China has been building or extending airports across vast and remote Tibet, all of which have a dual military-civilian use.

    Meanwhile, residents on the Indian side of the border report the Chinese have built smooth, hard-topped roads stretching to Tibet's capital of Lhasa. Chinese border posts, like India's today, were once only reachable by horse or mule. Now they are connected by asphalt.

    Beyond the frontier, the Chinese improvements include laying asphalt on a historic highway across the region of Aksai Chin, which is claimed by India. The construction of the Xinjiang-Tibet national highway 50 years ago shocked India and contributed to the 1962 war.

    China's rails are improving, too: Beijing opened a train line from Tibet to the region in 2006, and an extension is planned into a prefecture bordering Arunachal.

    In a 2010 cable released by Wikileaks, a U.S. diplomat concluded that infrastructure development in Lhoka prefecture, which according to China includes Tawang, was in part to prepare a "rear base" should a border clash arise.

    For years, India deliberately neglected infrastructure in Arunachal Pradesh, partly so it could act as a natural buffer against any Chinese invasion. That policy was dropped when the extent of development on China's side became clear.


    PRAGMATIC APPROACH

    In 2008, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh made his first trip to Arunachal and promised $4 billion to build a 1,700-kilometer (1,055-mile) highway joining the valleys of the state as well as a train line connecting to New Delhi. These would also make troop movements easier.

    Around the same time, former army chief Gen. J.J. Singh was appointed governor of the state and is ramping up infrastructure, power and telecom projects.

    "Never before in the history of this region has such a massive development program been conducted here," he said, sipping tea at his residence.

    Singh, who spent much of his army career in Arunachal, said India and China both realize "there is enough place and space for both of us to develop. A very mature and pragmatic approach is being taken by both."

    But despite 15 rounds of high-level talks, the border issue looks as knotty as ever. Indian media often whip up anger at Chinese border incursions, played down by both governments as a natural result of differing perceptions of where the border lies. India's defense minister told parliament 500 incursions have been reported in the last two years.

    Unable to match China's transport network, India's focus is now on maintaining more troops close to the border.

    "India struggles to build up infrastructure," said Ashley Tellis of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, who has written extensively on the India-China relationship. "They have been trying to do this for the past six or seven years now, and it is progressing far more slowly than they would like. What they have done in the interim is build up the troop strength."


    COURTING THE LAMAS

    One of main irritants in India-China relations, and a key part of China's claim to Arunachal, is Tibetan Buddhism. Beijing claims a centuries-old sovereignty over Arunachal and the rest of the Himalayan region.

    India hosts the Dalai Lama and his Tibetan government-in-exile. When the Dalai Lama fled Chinese rule in Tibet in 1959, his first stop was the Buddhist monastery in the Arunachal town of Tawang near the border. Three years later, China occupied the fortress-like hilltop monastery in the 1962 war before withdrawing to the current lines.

    In the 17th century, Tawang district was the birthplace of the sixth Dalai Lama. Deified as his latest incarnation, the current Dalai Lama visited the monastery in 2009 and has hinted his next reincarnation will be born in India. Some say in Tawang.

    Tibetan Buddhists see the Dalai Lama as a living god; China sees him as a separatist threat. Many in the Indian security community worry that instability in Tibet after his death could endanger India.

    So, New Delhi is wooing the locals. The intermingling of the Indian army and the Tawang monks is striking. War memorials on the road are built in the style of Tibetan Buddhist stupas, with prayer wheels and flags. Soldiers frequently visit the temple, and advise the lamas about troop movements and developments on the border.

    Lobsang Thapke, a senior lama at the monastery, says India's troop buildup has made the monks feel safe, but that India was far from matching China's road-building prowess.

    "From our side, we have to go through a lot of difficulty," he said in a carpeted room above the main hall, where child monks chanted morning prayers. "They (India) have not black-topped. Gravelling has not been done."

    ANGER AND ANXIETY

    The Indian footprint here isn't always welcome. India's new wealth is seen in the multi-storey hotels mushrooming between traditional wood-and-stone houses in town, and new Fords and Hyundais on the hilly streets.

    But anger is rising about a lack of jobs and perceptions that government corruption is rampant. Student movements have organized strikes in the state capital.


    Hotel worker Dorjee Leto says educated young people like himself feel forgotten by India. There is almost no mobile phone coverage, power cuts that last days, and just that long muddy road to the outside world.


    Anxiety over China, however, outweighs the irritation with India, says Leto, who like most in Tawang is a follower of Tibetan Buddhism.

    "It's a fear, because already China has annexed Tibet. We feel part of India, we are used to India," he said.
     
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    The difference is they stay focused on long term strategic goals/plans and in India the attention is fleeting.We just react to issues.
     
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    chinese are not interested in HImalayan, they are busy at bagging all Olympic gold medals.
     
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    Chinese are good at looking in many directions even though the world dos not realise that the Chinese are cockeyed in approach!

    Looking to London and Talking to Tokyo!
     
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    It is the prime duty of the state Govts and the centre to develop top class infrastructure in all states for the development and welfare of the citizens. It should be looked at that aim in view rather than make China as a cause. India must develop top class infrastructure in Ladakh, Himachal, Uttarakahand , Sikkim and Arunachal Paradesh. There is nothing anti china about it.

    Secondly, if India wants her soldiers to defend the borders then she might as well give them the wherewithal and whatwithal to do so !! China is improving infrastructure to strengthen their hold over Tibet. India will have to improve the infrastructure to defend the motherland and every inch of it. And in case possible to help her Tibaten brother throw away the Chinese yoke.
     
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    The sad truth is none cares about East India.

    Therefore, who cares even if militarily there is not much to write home about.

    Nehru's heart in 1962 bled for Assam as if that was something fantastic!

    Ever since, little has been done economically, building infrastructure or strengthening the military in the East.

    Infiltration is checked with all vigour in J&K and other parts of India, while in the East, they come in as if it was their own land!
     
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    General is talking like a petty politician !
    Though I agree with him about the general lack of interest and awareness amongst the politicians and bureaucrats about the East, the situation is not as pathetic.

    Indian army has been at it since 1948 -50 from the time of Naga and Mizo revolts, then Manipur, then Meghalaya, then Assam and Arunachal, then Sikkim and Bhutan. There are people in IA who spend their lives in NE such (besides Assam Rifles) the Infantry battalions. There has never been a lack of neglect of East from IA part.

    Regarding who cares for NE, I dare ask if they care for themselves ? They have been voting political parties for last 64 years on caste, creed and religious lines rather than for their own development. They can not even vote for Sangma !!
     
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    No.

    I am not talking as a petty politician.

    I am talking of the Herculean task the Armed Forces will have to undertake for the security given the handicaps that the Govt apathy has laid in its path.

    We will of course, like 1962, be asked to 'throw them out'.

    My point is merely to state that the East is always neglected be it in any form, to include militarily.

    Take it at my anguish at formidable task that will be asked of the military - one hand tied behind the back!

    We will deliver, I assure you, but at a huge cost, which is totally unnecessary; if only the Govt looked half and eye towards the East and not do the lip service that politicians do always when the chips are down in the East.

    Check Kokrajhar.

    Was it not avoidable?

    1962?

    Was it not avoidable?

    All the flurry that we are seeing towards the East (and it is still woefully short) is only a reaction to China's activity in Eastern Tibet.

    Before that, it was total, what the Punjabis say - thand.

    You talk about votes in the NE.

    Are you aware of the demographics and the political environment?

    Have you been to the NE?

    Are you aware of the activities of the foreign NGOs and the religious organisation (all denominations) that is on in the NE?

    Check who fomented the insurgencies in the NE and who organised the infiltrators and gave them safe havens.

    Not the military.

    IA does its task as ordered. It is not a social or a political organisation to develop the NE, even though it still does in its small way.

    For the defence of the East and NE, it (the military) can only present the situation to the Govt. It cannot arm twist the Govt. That is the irony!

    And if there is politics at play, it lies at the doorstep of politicians in Delhi and their hand maidens called bureaucrats!
     
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    Sir,

    I dare say it is not.
    Look at the state of roads in Nagland and Manipur, Mizoram and Tripura. These leads into major areas opposite Bangladesh and Myanmar.

    If Sikkim, Bhutan and Arunchal Pradesh you do not have road network, it is due to old style afraid Generals and MOD / MEA Babus like you and or RK Narayanan who thought absence of road was the best form of defence. Same is the case with Ladakh. Why did not you make a two lane road to SSK? Why there is no top class road leading to forward araes of Himachal or Uttrakhand. Why do not we have a raod axix to Lipulekh and Mansarovar. Why the road axis to Demchok is not four laned?
    Any answer? Why blame others. Tell me an instance when Army proposed it and MoD denied it !

    To orchestrate the withdrawal operations , may be.

    I beg your pardon if I am going over board.
     
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    There are merits in not developing the infrastructure.

    It is a plus when you are not in the driver's seat.

    But we are well in the driver's seat for a long time.

    We have excellent roads in the North and West right up to the Posts!

    So, why was developing the infrastructure not taken seriously in the East?

    And why now at this belated time?

    Nothing has changed in the recent past when we were up and about!

    For your info, I have not been a babu.

    My record of service will indicate where I have been and what type of a soldier I have been.

    Lastly, if you have visited the High Altitude area and seen the mountain ranges, you would realise four lane traffic is not feasible.

    On a high altitude plateau, it is feasible, but not when your road run on a cut between high mountains and a river alongside.

    And if you think you can fool God and nature, you will come to a sorry pass like the Chinese and the KKH. Check how a landslide changed the road into a lake and they are still struggling!

    There is a thread here on that!
     
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    Sir that would be grave injustice to the millions of soldiers who kept the NE for Indian for last 64 years with success, fraternity, love and care suffering thousands of casualties. I can guess your saying for reasons known to me but for soldiers who do five or six tennures in NE being thousands of km away from home, it is an affront . If China has not attacked for last 64 years it does prove that someone's assessment somewhere was correct.
    It is not a joke that sometimes two to three corps were pulled out of East and put on Paki Borders !

    If you say that North and South India neglects East, I may agree. But Militarily it is neglected is an over statement. Economically they are big suckers !!
     
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    I will refrain from discussing issues for good reasons.

    I would say what Gen Malik said - We will fight efficiently with what we have.

    And we have done it.

    And we shall continue to do it.

    The bottomline is - we shall fight with great cost, if it is so. No regrets.

    But then the Govt still neglects the East and North East in every way.

    It has nothing to do with North or South Indians.
     
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    Sir you must have seen photographs of Chines ifrastructur coming on to tibet.
    If they can make four lane highways passing over much more difficult terrain, we could have made two way traffic raods?
    I will give you an example. One of the most treacherous patches of mountain road pass through Narendra Nagar to Tehri. But Russians required very heavy equipment to be taken to Tehri for THDC Dam, they made a fantastic two way road there in no time. Road to Demchok is but a plain arae.

    Finally Sir, who am to ask for service records of a well known general. But I must quiz you on certain basic aspects of IA which many do not know even after hanging their uniforms.
     
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    There is a lot of difference in a Plateau and virgin mountains.
     
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    Sir, I will put it this way which I also felt:

    "The govt of India so far has failed in Economic integration of NE with mainstream Indian Economy and culture. The Integration has not progressed beyond Calcutta and largely, Bengalies are responsible for it"
     
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    Attabad, the Pakistani mountain village that is now an island
    After a landslide created a dam, the village on the Karakoram Highway was cut off – and the rescue effort has been slow


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    A few hundred metres from the pile of rubble that was once Amir Rullah's house, one of the world's most fabled roads runs straight into the deep blue waters of a high-altitude lake. The Karakoram Highway does not re-emerge from the waters for another seven miles.

    "To get anywhere we have to go by boat," the 58-year-old farmer says of his fellow residents of Shishkat, a tiny community in the northern mountains of Pakistan surrounded on all sides by soaring peaks.

    The village that once straddled the highway – one of the highest roads on the planet and a feat of engineering built in the 1970s as part of a grand geo-strategic partnership between China and Pakistan – is now an island.

    Whether they are going north towards the Chinese border, a journey that used to take just a few hours, or south towards the plains of the Punjab, the villagers have to take a boat. It has been this way since the spring of 2010, when a massive landslide blocked a narrow section of valley, creating a natural dam.

    In a matter of months, a lake formed that was 14 miles long and more than 100 metres deep in places, inundating not just a critically important road and bridges but also entire villages and small plots of land where vegetables and fruit trees once grew.

    For two years, the garishly decorated trucks that used to ply a road conceived as one of Asia's great trade routes have got no further than Attabad, a village that was largely swept away by the landslide.

    What little cross-border trade has survived is thanks to the porters who carry cargo to the side of the lake, down a treacherous brown hillside, kicking up a fine dust and dodging falling rocks. Goods are loaded on to a flotilla of wooden boats that grind their way up and down the lake using rackety diesel engines taken out of old tractors. In winter, when the lake freezes, there is even less activity. Goods can only be transported on the backs of men trudging across the ice.

    Transport costs have soared and the Chinese goods found in bazaars in Gilgit-Baltistan, the northern province bordering China, are now as likely to have arrived via Karachi, the port city more than 1,000 miles south, as from the nearby frontier.

    Locals say ill and elderly members of the 25,000-strong community living to the north of the lake suffer because of the trouble getting to hospital.

    Twenty years in the making, the highway was one of the great engineering projects of the 20th century, built at vast financial and human cost. One construction worker was estimated to have died for each mile of road because of rock falls and other hazards.

    Both sides considered the cost worthwhile. For China, what it calls the "friendship highway" would not only resurrect part of the ancient Silk Route, it would give it a land route to the warm-water ports on the Arabian Sea. And it helped cement Pakistan's close ties with a powerful northern neighbour even as relations with India remained fraught.

    The road also brought money and development to the region creating a "quantum leap" in living standards, says Ghulam Naibi Raikoti, a consultant for the German development agency Giz, which does a lot of work in Pakistan.

    "From a trade perspective it has been immensely successful, but it also means that people are now no longer self-sufficient," he said. "When the road is blocked people quickly suffer."

    Despite the lake, the Chinese government is continuing to invest in the road, participating in an upgrade programme originally supposed to cost £320m to widen and resurface a route that is notorious for vehicles, including fully loaded buses, careening into deep ravines.

    But efforts to drain the lake are hopelessly behind target.

    A few dozen workers from the Frontier Works Organisation (FWO), an arm of the Pakistani military, have been making slow progress picking at the massive dam with mechanical diggers and explosives.

    "They are badly equipped and not properly qualified," said Amin Beg, an official with the Aga Khan Rural Support Programme, a charity that works in the area. "The people here wanted the contract for draining the lake to be given to the Chinese. They actually care about this road because they have a strategic interest in it."

    After two years of work, the FWO has only succeeded in lowering the water level by about 10 metres. The receding tide has given the people of the valley a preview of the devastated scene that awaits if the lake is ever fully drained.

    Lines of dead trees stick up out of the water. The soil has been washed away, once-lush scraps of land are barren, and houses are piles of rubble.

    The areas that were spared the rising tide are now dotted with great piles of timber – doors and window frames that were removed from houses as the water rose – and dozens of identical metal huts built to accommodate those made homeless.

    Although Gilgit-Baltistan is largely immune to the militancy that troubles the tribal areas to the south-east, it has been hit by a surge in violent sectarianism.

    Tourism is sharply down in the province. Many of the handicraft shops have closed in Karimabad, a beautiful town 14 miles south of the lake that boasts a 15-century fort with sweeping views of the valley below.

    While tourism, farming and trucking are all suffering, the lake has created work in an unexpected local industry – shipping. "I used to work on a team widening the road, but this is much better," said Karim Khan, a boat owner. "I think they will need boats here for a long time to come."

    Attabad, the Pakistani mountain village that is now an island | World news | guardian.co.uk
     
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    You are right.

    They (Bengalis) were thrown out of Assam and then the very fair Central Govt allowed the Bangladeshis to come to fill the Bengali vacuum.

    Fakhruddin Ali Ahmed, Manmohan Singh and Sonia Gandhi are Bengalis!

    Note how the Northern Power Grid has failed and they are drawing power from the Eastern Power grid.

    How come the same is not reciprocated by the Northern Power Grid when the Eastern Power Grid fails?

    Like the Chinese megalomania, the Middle Kingdom of India is centred around Delhi and the North.

    Have you not seen that when the food prices rise, it is all centred around how the poor Delhities suffer and the prices in their silly market?
     
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    But you are right.

    Manmohan is an Assamese who visits when there is a riot!
     
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    How many of you go on a holiday to the NE?

    But check the number who visit Kashmir and Kanyakumari.

    So, it is obvious that NE is India's Lost Frontiers!

    It is only when the LTTE made life hell, the word "Thambi' was no longer taken to be a word of scorn by the North Indians!

    So, that is how life is!

    To most, life revolves around Delhi and the joy and tribulations of the North!

    Pranab Mukherjee flying in an IAF aircraft is a point to ridicule, but Pratibha Patil and her merry making with the defence equipment and land and then trying to emulate Ibn Batuta and Marco Polo touring of the world is par for the course! And that woman has no qualifications for the high office except as the Rajasthan Minister said, she was a cook of Indira Gandhi.


    Pranab Mukherjee has greater qualifications than being a cook to the Dynasty!

    Accept the reality.
     
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  21. Bhadra

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    Yes sir,

    It is not necessarily life making hell.

    Lal Denga had made life hell for IA. How many Indians know him including Bengalies? So is Manipur, so is Nagaland, so are Ahoms and Bodos....

    The NE needs to be brought to the National cultural and more so the Economic Grid !

    When I say Bengalies failed them what I mean is the fact that Bengalies were managing them but badly..... After all the lifeline of entire NE is Bengal and hence it was the responsibility of Bengal to prosper and let all others prosper! That is why every state in NE revolted against Bengalies. Still they can not do without Bengal but with lots of grudges. So respect for NE must start form Bengal !

    In entire NE the basic revolt was against Bengalies and Marwaries rather than against Delhi walas.
     
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