In defense of Islam

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  1. genius

    genius Regular Member

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    Most religions are impractical and give you advice that you can never follow.

    Christianity says turn the other cheek, yet how many Christians have you seen do that? Hinduism talks about compassion, Gandhi, Buddha, yoga, etc. yet u see the opposite of all this in Hindu community. Point is, most religions give u impossible commands, almost setting u up to fail.

    Islam at least is practical. Be good to those who r good to you. But with those who attack u don't take it lying down. sound advice, applies to most of us. Most of us will not turn the other cheek if our children are attacked. we will fight back. That's what Islam also says, fight back.

    So in a sense we all have the Islamic attitude even if we don't follow the religion per se.
     
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  3. archie

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    Its the most im practical advise given of all three.. Compassion and change of heart is much more powerful on a longer run than i will beat you... Not to mention the rising conflict level across the globe is cause of reduced tolerance for which you know deep down what is the cause of it.. you simply cant have one book saying its the only truth... so its hypocritical in principle..

    what you are trying to imply here actually is confirming that it is NOT a religion of peace but of war and domination
     
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    Dont be selective... Mahabharata teaches us to fight for the principle of dharma even if you fight underhandedly.. lot of battles won in that is going beyond the rules of engagement so are some in Ramayana.. that invalidates your statement to the core
     
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    There many examples of Muslim fight backs I can think of... Raping Yazidi girls by you ISIS ... Paris attacks resently.... Nice attacks resently ... killing unarmed people in Dacca ... the list will go on and on...

    You Muslims are nothing but coward !! Have you forgot the mother of all retreat by that Muslim Saddam when the Non Muslim army was chasing them in Gulf War ?? How that Muslim Saddam was smoked out of rat hole ??
     
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    Brother makes a good point.

    Brother needs 30 chars.
     
  7. Razor

    Razor CIDs from Tamilnadu Senior Member

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    Birather, you should come here more often, blis.
    We need more birathers like you, blees.
    salaaams.
     
  8. Bornubus

    Bornubus Senior Member Senior Member

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    Yeah very good at fight back but among their own kind in Syria,Iraq, Shia - Sunni Etc.

    But against Non Musalman - they suffer ultimate humiliation, Israel took few days to defeat Combined Arab Army.

    Hindus captured 93,000 Musalman slaves (Paki) in 1971 within 15 days and a Musalman cuntry created, thanks to generous Kafirs - Jew Gen Jacob, Parsi Gen Sam, Christian Gen Ian Cardozo + Hindu/Sikhs.


    What are the achievement of Islam in last 1000 years ?

    I mean minus the Persian which is pre Islamic.


    IMO Scientific, military, Cultural = Zero

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    While kafirs produce Einstein you produce Burhan lol
     
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  9. Zulfiqar Khan

    Zulfiqar Khan Regular Member

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    That's why the Caliphates spread from Spain to China; through humiliating defeats.

    Do you want me to remind you about generous Musalmans?

    Ahem.... o_O

    Going by your logic, everything is pre-Islamic; including Arabic. :crazy:
     
  10. Zulfiqar Khan

    Zulfiqar Khan Regular Member

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    You should watch this video; it'll clear up a bit of your ignorance.
     
  11. Brood Father

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    Most diet plans are impractical and give you advice that you can never follow.

    GM diet says that you should stop in taking fat and consume only vegetables however after 3 days it start getting boring and it force people to relinquish the diet

    Atkins diet talks about eating protein yet u see the opposite of all this becuase overeating of protein causes liver to convert protein into fat and also may cause kidney failure .
    Point is all diet plans gives you impossible task and unreasonable commands which are likely to fail and you will end up gaining more fat
    Kieto diet at least is practical. It says eat only fat , neither protein nor carb.All you need to is follow your instinct, eat ghee , butter because after 3 days your body will turn into ketosis mode and will burn fat into protein , which is what we need

    So in a sense we all have the ketosis metabolism even if we don't eat fat per se
     
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  12. Zulfiqar Khan

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    Don't see how Muslims are cowards...

    Despite Saddam being a secularist and harnessing little support; the Iraq war is still going on - last time I checked; it was the US that withdrew.
     
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    One more reason to assert that Islam is a political and inherently violent doctrine.

    Skittishness is a clear hint of insecurity and cowardice.
     
  14. Brood Father

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    So guys which diet plan you recommend , please treat this as official thread for defence of kieto diet
     
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  15. Zulfiqar Khan

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    I understand what you mean; but that isn't what Islam completely says.

    Islam states to fight only when COMPLETELY necessary; when it's a matter of annihilation or survival and even then; we must keep it at the minimal.

    "Fight in the way of God those who fight you but do not trangress. Indeed. God does not like the transgressors." - Quran 2:191
     
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    But Abu Bakr, the right hand man of You know Who gave the non-Muslims only two choices: Convert or Die. Not only that the women and children of Kafirs were taken as (sex) slaves.

    Islam has been the transgressor.

    Destruction and ghettoization of Islam is in interest of survival of the non-Muslim world.
     
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    pmaitra Moderator Moderator

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    Your understanding of cowardice is off the mark.

    Cowardice is the opposite of courage.

    Courage is not the lack of fear. Courage is feeling the sense of fear and acting despite that. Cowardice is the opposite. Cowardice is, for example, capitulating in front the stronger enemy knowing fighting it will result in almost certain defeat.

    Skittishness is a sense of alarm, sometimes, but not always, as a result of paranoia. What a person does as a response to skittishness determines whether it is an act of courage or cowardice. Mere skittishness does not indicate cowardice at all.
     
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    I don't know whether this classifies as kieto diet, but I think it comes close: I prefer intake of carbohydrates that are slow burning - for example buckwheat, instead of wheat and rice.
     
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    Bornubus Senior Member Senior Member

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    Caliphate Army was defeated in Rajasthan by Combined Hindu Army and later by Mongols, your Abbasid caliph was met with a gruesome death, he was wrapped in a rug and trampled to death by Mongol horses.

    http://thehistoryindia.blogspot.in/2013/08/battle-of-rajasthan-738-ad-defeat-of.html


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Baghdad_(1258)

    Look at the Size of Spain which took horde of Arab Barbarians and when the time was right throw off the Yoke of Islam.

    Also, thanks to the great Charles Martel who stopped the Horde in Francia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Martel

    Like what ! Muhammad ?

    Or some Sufi whom foolish Hindus worship as Divinity.


    Even most of the Muslaman names are pre islamic Persian/ Mongol/ turk nothing Islamic about them.


    For a start

    Evil Jew Population - 15 ~ million

    Total Muslaman - 1.4 ~ Billion

    But Quality always matter.


    http://en.europenews.dk/Nobel-Prizes-4-Muslim-vs-129-Jewish-Contributions-to-the-World-78229.html
     
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    this Thread is classic example of Taqiya & Muslim apologists .
     
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  21. Zulfiqar Khan

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    That's like saying Roman Paganism is a political and inherently violent doctrine because of the expansion of the Roman Empire.

    Even then, you cannot compare the Caliphates to the Roman Empire in many factors such as tolerance, multiculturalism, justice and ect...

    In the early stages - the newly formed religion had no intentions to expand territorially. It was surrounded by the two-most powerful Empires; Muslim leaders acknowledged taking them on would be suicidal, instead they maintained friendly relations and mutual trade. After the death of Muhammad (SAW) - relations began to deteriorate due to cross border raids by Ghassanids (Byzantine protectorate) and religious hostility towards the Muslims by the Church of the East. The Byzantines refused to intervene.

    The devastation of the borderlands prompted the Rashidun Caliphate to send several small expeditionary forces to the hostile tribes, which were easily crushed by the Byzantines at the battle of Mu'tah. This led to a brief panic followed by a quick mobilization of veteran soldiers. Against all odds; despite being numerically, technologically and logistically inferior - the Muslim forces defeated Byzantine armies. This instilled a long-lasting sense of invincibility amongst Muslim generals.

    After that; it was ambitions and thirst for glory/plunder of Muslim generals/leaders which drove expansion.
     

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