In a first, IAF heads for drills to Israel

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In a first, IAF heads for drills to Israel

NEW DELHI: In a first, Indian forces are set to head for Israel to take part in joint military drills that will have significant strategic implications given the list of participants that includes US, France and Germany.

India and Israel discreetly exchange small teams of experts for cross training, including special operations but have not taken part in a joint military drill till now.
The joint aerial drills are being described as the biggest and most complex ever to be hosted by Israel. While details are yet to be worked out, defence ministry sources confirmed that an Indian Air Force team will participate in the Blue Flag exercise that is being hosted by Israel later in the year. “The participation is confirmed but details on which assets or how many personnel will take part are not yet available,” sources said.
This would mark the first time that India will take part in a multinational military drill in Israel, which has emerged as one of the primary weapons supplier to New Delhi with systems ranging from unmanned aerial vehicles to missile protection and small arms.

Reports from Tel Aviv quoting Israeli Air Force officials say that the Blue Flag exercise would involve seven nations besides Israel and could see participation by nearly 100 aircraft from around the world. The other participants include Poland, Greece and Italy.

The Indian Air Force has gained valuable expertise in the past during multi nation drills in the US, having participated in the Red Flag series of exercises. The last exercise was held in Alaska in May 2016 in which India sent four Su 30 MKIs, four Jaguar fighters and two IL 78 mid air tankers.

While it is still unclear if India would sent its fighters for the Israeli exercise, the common platforms being operated by the two nations includes the Heron unmanned aerial vehicle. India is in the process of acquiring a number of more advanced Heron UAVs for an armed role from Israel as well.
Though Israel is a prime weapons supplier to India – it has won major contracts to supply avionics for Russian origin aircraft as well – joint military drills have remained a sensitive topic till now.

The two nations discreetly exchange small teams of experts for cross training, including special operations but have not taken part in a joint military drill till now.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...for-drills-to-israel/articleshow/57782373.cms
 

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What is the serviceability rate in Israeli air force the carsh record and average flying hours of combat jets. Any link ?


India should conduct joint military exercise with them instead of insignificant Token Militaries like Maldives, Nepal and Oman which barely see combat in real wars.
 

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What is the serviceability rate in Israeli air force the carsh record and average flying hours of combat jets. Any link ?


India should conduct joint military exercise with them instead of insignificant Token Militaries like Maldives, Nepal and Oman which barely see combat in real wars.
I have read somewhere that the Jews clocked 10 sorties everyday from every aircraft in the 67 six day war.....

Their one of the best air operations are operation focus and and attack on Iraqi nuke facility....
 

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Had we accepted Israel's proposal to destroy Porki nuclear facilities in 1987 When Rajiv Gandhi rejected it we would not have had a nuclear powered terrorist living in our neighborhood. Gen. Sundarji was ready and had also conducted Brasstacks exercise for it, Rajiv Gandhi developed cold feet. Israelis would have destroyed their 95% built reactor at Kahuta which would have initiated war between India Pakistan and that war could have been decisive with Pakistan getting destroyed once and for all.

Israeli Airforce Successfully destroyed Iraqi Nuclear facility which was 2500 kms far from Israel flying F-16 at tree top levels to avoid Radar for almost entire flight.
 

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I wonder why USAF is not participating in Blue flag.
Also, I guess we won't see Tejas participating in this one either. Can't wait for it to fly in a multilateral exercise.

On a separate note, why can we not host a multinational exercise? We should host it year, with different sets of nations:-
  • Russia, Iran
  • US, France
  • Israel, UK
  • Vietnam, Japan
  • Pakistan, China (we can send them an invitation just to troll them after we have exercised once with each of the aforementioned groups)
  • Australia, Singapore
We can do it. We have enough geopolitical clout now. We need to show China the difference in our international standings.
We can call this exercise............................. Vayu prahaar??? Maybe we can call it Akash Maitri (pun intended)?
Anyone got better names? My suggestion makes me sound like a Doordarshan anchor from the 90s
 
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@lcafanboy Israel using Indian soil to kill Muslims (Porkies) would have been a disaster domestically as well as internationally. India unlike Israel is not a target of global jihad. Even the goatfuckers living in Barbados have wet dreams about the destruction of Israel, why put India in the same category?
 

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@lcafanboy Israel using Indian soil to kill Muslims (Porkies) would have been a disaster domestically as well as internationally. India unlike Israel is not a target of global jihad. Even the goatfuckers living in Barbados have wet dreams about the destruction of Israel, why put India in the same category?
It was not offer to kill Muslims it was offer to defang Pakistan of nuclear facilities and thereby stopping them from making nuclear weapons. A precision attack on unfueled 95% completed reactor which would have stopped their weapons program for good.
 

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It was not offer to kill Muslims it was offer to defang Pakistan of nuclear facilities and thereby stopping them from making nuclear weapons. A precision attack on unfueled 95% completed reactor which would have stopped their weapons program for good.
That is not how Indian or international Muslims would see. They would see Indians helping the evil Jews.

1987 was the time when the decade long international jihad in Afghanistan was at its fag end and India was about to become bankrupt.

Nowadays you can't find an Arab or a Chechen fighting in Kashmir unlike the 90s. Separatists tried to make it into a nationalist movement to avoid the Islamic jihad tag and that backfired.
 

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That is not how Indian or international Muslims would see. They would see Indians helping the evil Jews.

1987 was the time when the decade long international jihad in Afghanistan was at its fag end and India was about to become bankrupt.

Nowadays you can't find an Arab or a Chechen fighting in Kashmir unlike the 90s. Separatists tried to make it into a nationalist movement to avoid the Islamic jihad tag and that backfired.
It's called pre emptive strikes. We lack vision and thus suffer. We are saddled with people who think like you in government which is not rational thinking ask @Bornubus and people like Gen sundari and they will support what I said. While dealing with your enemies you should not carry bagage of human rights and what others will think or a particular community will think. Had we done that we would have been living with out fear of Pakistani Nukes. Wrt terrorists the situation would have been much better as any support by Pak would have invited cross border retaliation with out fear of nukes.

Can you hit Hafeez Sayeed or Azhar Masood now? No. Because we fear of nukes. Had there been no nukes we would have pulverized Pakistan in Kargil, 2003 for parliament attack, 2008 Mumbai attacks.

In fact there would have been no Pakistan we would have finished them long ago.
 

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@lcafanboy Dude please, keep your false bravado to yourself. Israel has most powerful nations' in it's entire 70 year history backing India didn't and it still doesn't. We nearly went bankrupt in 1991.

Nukes are not the ultimate challenge. Had it been India would have lost Kargil and Op. Parakram would never have taken place. Sundarji doctrine failed in 2001 when the mobilization took months and gave ample time to US & other powers to intervene.
 

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What Israeli Air Strikes (intended) using Indian soil has to do with Musalman or Jihad ? Our enemy is Pakistan and always will and if Islamic world feel bad about it then they should deal with this.



If you ever find a shia Musalman try to get his view of Iran and what will his reaction if India invades Iran !





Firstly, the survival of India should be the top priority whatever is the cost. Why do we think that Musalman would think if we have good relations with Jews. We don't have civilization blood feud with Jews but we are at a receiving end of Islamic Nukes.


My blood boils whenever I saw a Hindustani Musalman badmouthing Jews and Israel for "ummah" Bullshit. I don't mind if Indians (including Musalman) have a neutral view for Israel - Arab conflict.


Remember it was a Hindustani Musalman Abid Hussian (Diplomat) who convince Indian govt to make diplomatic relations with Israel. He was a staunch supporter of Israeli cause.

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PS - Personally I have a neutral view about Jews and i only support Israel because they are our Allies.
 

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And lastly if Musalman would've declare Jihad against India had Israel nuked Pakistan then they should no that Israeli arms and equipment helping us crushing Kashmiri Jihad and Kargil war.


Majority of surveillance equipment on LoC is Israeli helping us reduce infiltration by 75 ~ % since 2004


So where is Ummah ?


Asiya Andrabi that kashmiri Bitch claim Arab sayyed ancestry and rejected "kashmiriyat" democracy and consider Indians including Hindustani Musalman as inferior race than Arabs.


This is Kashmir not Arab. The same Kashmir where oldest Shiv sukta are found to be inscribed in Rocks.


Now look at Kashmir.



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One of the brave pilots of that mission was Ilan Ramon the guy who perished in the columbia space shuttle disaster . Seriously Congress and its leaders have fucked us in crucial Strategic decisions . But i have my doubts that a strike like that on Paki nuclear program would have halted their progress because it was funded by Saudi and helped by the chinese so both would have surely helped pakistan make another attempt with the nuclear program ..

Had we accepted Israel's proposal to destroy Porki nuclear facilities in 1987 When Rajiv Gandhi rejected it we would not have had a nuclear powered terrorist living in our neighborhood. Gen. Sundarji was ready and had also conducted Brasstacks exercise for it, Rajiv Gandhi developed cold feet. Israelis would have destroyed their 95% built reactor at Kahuta which would have initiated war between India Pakistan and that war could have been decisive with Pakistan getting destroyed once and for all.

Israeli Airforce Successfully destroyed Iraqi Nuclear facility which was 2500 kms far from Israel flying F-16 at tree top levels to avoid Radar for almost entire flight.
 

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Look at this shit i think its the same bitch and her gang seriously Mehbooba mufti govt is fucking it up royally BJP is sleeping with the enemy in the valley ..NC was far better than this PDP radicals



And lastly if Musalman would've declare Jihad against India had Israel nuked Pakistan then they should no that Israeli arms and equipment helping us crushing Kashmiri Jihad and Kargil war.

Asiya Andrabi that kashmiri Bitch claim Arab sayyed ancestry and rejected "kashmiriyat" democracy and consider Indians including Hindustani Musalman as inferior race than Arabs.


This is Kashmir not Arab. The same Kashmir where oldest Shiv sukta are found to be inscribed in Rocks.


Now look at Kashmir.



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This is huge development
well i will not quote it as huge but a very significant development. As it is first ever from IAF with Iarael. what intrigue me is having France, Germany, Italy to join previous participants........

On a separate note, why can we not host a multinational exercise? We should host it year, with different sets of nations:-
  • Russia, Iran
  • US, France
  • Israel, UK
  • Vietnam, Japan
  • Pakistan, China (we can send them an invitation just to troll them after we have exercised once with each of the aforementioned groups)
  • Australia, Singapore
WELL THAT IS A GREAT AND FRUITFUL IDEA...........................
 

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That is not how Indian or international Muslims would see. They would see Indians helping the evil Jews.

1987 was the time when the decade long international jihad in Afghanistan was at its fag end and India was about to become bankrupt.

Nowadays you can't find an Arab or a Chechen fighting in Kashmir unlike the 90s. Separatists tried to make it into a nationalist movement to avoid the Islamic jihad tag and that backfired.
This kind of reverse islamophobic mentality has led to a disaster named Islamic Nuke Bomb and made by very hand of Pakistan which is the major rival of India. Why do we fking care what particular community think if we do something in Pakistan by using help of any country to save our soil ??

If any Indian thinks it's inappropriate to use Israel's help against Pak only because it's a Jew nation, well he/she needs to start thinking about the "terrorism has no religion" bullcrap these Islamic apologetic throw at us everyday.
 

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Training with triple aces will be a good experience for our boys. IAF(Israel) are considered the best fighter pilot's in the world, even IAF(India) recognizes them as the best, as of what I've heard form my air force buddy. With case studies like:

  • 6 days war
  • Operation Opera
  • Operation Entebbe
And if French are coming over there, than it would be interesting to watch Rafael ECM performance, especially the SPECTRA suite.

Also it would be interesting to note how our pilots after learning from Red Flag exercises and Indradhanush with the British and some exercises in UAE faired.

On a geopolitical note: If you've read these books(you can find audiobook on youtube, no need to buy one).



and this new one:



You would understand about this new manmade hysteria of Islamophobia created by CIA with Saudis as the major backers of ISIS or dayesh to fund for warmongering elites at Whitehouse.
 

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