Iit -madras Bans Student Group For Criticising Pm Modi, His Policies

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  1. Rashna

    Rashna Senior Member Senior Member

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    IIT-Madras bans student group for criticising PM Modi, his policies

    CHENNAI: In a controversial move, IIT-Madras has banned a discussion forum for students following an anonymous complaint that it tried to spread "hatred" against Prime Minister Modi by mobilizing SC/ST students to question government policies on the use of Hindi and the ban on cow slaughter.

    The decision followed after the ministry of human resource development (MHRD) made an inquiry regarding the anonymous complaint it had received on the activities of the Ambedkar Periyar Student Circle (APSC) on the IIT campus. The complainant had enclosed one of APSC's pamphlets reproducing a speech which criticized the Modi government and its policies.

    In the letter to the IIT director dated May 15, Prisca Mathew, under secretary to the government of India, wrote, "I am directed to forward herewith a copy of anonymous letter alleging serious complaints received from students, IIT-Madras along with pamphlet issued by Ambedkar-Periyar study circle on the above mentioned subject and to request that comments of the institute may please be sent to this ministry at an early date."

    A week later, on May 24, the IIT dean (for students), Sivakumar M Srinivasan, sent a terse email to the coordinators of the APSC informing them that they had been "derecognized". Members of APSC are now up in arms pointing out that the HRD ministry's action and the IIT's decision to ban their activities was based on an anonymous complaint by right-wing groups and that they were denied a hearing.


    IITs and HRD ministry contradict each other on common counselling

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    The group demanded to know how an 'anonymous' letter represented the majority opinion of students of IIT-Madras. "We object to the fact that the dean has derecognized our study circle unilaterally without giving us a fair hearing and an opportunity to represent ourselves. In our interaction with the dean of students, we have been told that our study circle engaged in "controversial activities" and violated the code of conduct of independent student bodies. We are clear in our stand that we have not misused any privileges given by the institute," said a member of the APSC, seeking anonymity.

    The APSC was created as a discussion forum on April 14, 2014 by a group of politically-inclined students from IIT-Madras to promote the ideology and writings of B R Ambedkar and Periyar. The objective was to initiate debates on socio-economic and cultural issues while examining them through the prism of Dalit rights and aspirations of the backward classes.

    The 'controversial' pamphlet that the MHRD forwarded was the copy of a speech by a Dravidian University academic R Vivekandanda Gopal on the "Contemporary relevance of Dr Ambedkar". The event was organised by the APSC on the campus. The pamphlet reproduced portions in which the speaker had criticized the Modi regime for "pro-corporate" policies such as the Land Acquisition Bill and insurance and labour reforms. He had also accused the government of "communally polarizing" people by introducing a ban on cow slaughter and through ghar wapsi programs.

    Justifying his decision to ban the group, dean Sivakumar M Srinivasan, said, "There are certain procedures to be followed and in this case, the APSC has broken the basic code of conduct. They have misused privileges given to them. So the action was inevitable." He said after receiving the letter from MHRD, he conducted an enquiry and found that "the allegations were true".

    Following the ban, APSC can no longer use facilities on the campus including the auditoriums for its functions.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...PM-Modi-his-policies/articleshow/47463535.cms

    @Rowdy, @OneGrimPilgrim , @Srinivas_K , @SREEKAR ,@anupamsurey ,@Singh ,@sob et al
     
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  3. Rashna

    Rashna Senior Member Senior Member

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    In my opinion this matter should have been resolved through discussion rather than enforcing a ban... and institutions like IIT should be above the common politics found in Indian Universities.
     
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    Vishwarupa Senior Member Senior Member

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    Looks like converts & wanna be converts are the members of this group.

    Read Rajiv Malhotra's book - Breaking India to know about these people behaviors & motives.
     
  5. Mad Indian

    Mad Indian Proud Bigot Veteran Member Senior Member

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    These are the same dung bats who promote Aryan Dravidian divide, who promote SC/ST separation from other castes, and are nothing more than a bunch of castist dirtbags. Only god can help this country when castist fucks like this organisation comment on polarisation and that too only on Hindus

    Let these hypocritical pieces of shit rot in hell for all I care
     
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    Mad Indian Proud Bigot Veteran Member Senior Member

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    Add one more option to the polls - these castist dingbats should be dismissed
     
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    Mad Indian Proud Bigot Veteran Member Senior Member

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    Though banning is the best option in the current political climate, better option would be to mock them and their ideas. Free up the debate platform, to include debates on Religion, politics and what not. Mock the fuck out of them and call them out on their hypocritical castism wrt SCs/STs, when they talk shit about Hindu nationalism.


    This way, it will prevent them from becoming martyrs(like they have become now - free speech and such) and will make it hard for them to preach anything. More people will come to be aware of such scumbags
     
  8. TejasMK3

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    This is pretty much the case here. These guys are trying to create an atmosphere in the college through such movements.

    Here are letters from IIT:

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    These guys are nothing more than chrislamists hiding under the usual names like "Dravidian, SC/ST" etc.
     
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    Forgot to add:
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    I've also read that some of these pamphlets had references to some orgs like Revolutionary students front, which is basically a maoist type org, that has assaulted teachers etc in the past.

    My edit button disappeared after 30 mins :(/
     
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    Yeah I know these types. I have met them before. But Rather than banning, we should open up the debate platform and most these sickos. Let us have open discussion on Christians, Muslims and Hindus. Let us let the public to decide for themselves who is right. These DSBs are getting unwanted positive attention now due to ban

    Edit: See how the presstitutes work. This is not even a ban. They have only given suspension until the investigations are over. Shit ,I dont know who is going to save this country from these presstitutes. We need twenty more years of Right Wing government to save this country from these anti nationals
     
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    When NSUI starts protesting and NDTV gives sufficient coverage, I say this is a hack job and politically motivated issue.
     
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    How sad it is today these so called seculars endorsing these radical statements made by students group which is totally communal ?

    To put the point very clear this periyar groups stated that they from iIT madras and miss quoted Ambedkar ? They said Ambedkar wanted to end Hinduism to eradicate castism in India . And the way aranab goswami of times now avoided this last para of their speech was really baffled me .

    So discrimination of Hinduism is Indian right ? What if same been told against Muslims and Christianity ?

    Then it will be communal ?


    What load of shit ! IIT Madras complained for using their name to inflict communal tensions . Seriously these guys must be booked and jailed for such comments .

    These are all Christian's way of secretarial divide .

    Shame on these media and so called seculars .

    I think it's high time the word secular added in in mid 70s by congress should be thrown out . Hindus are seculars even before any human rights organisation are formed . We the people who welcomed all religions from Islam to Christianity to built their place of worship in kerala in way beyond 1800 AD .

    Shameful these Arnabs ndtv , India today are trying to point finger at modi .

    Shame shame shame .

    Tamilnadu is in deep threat of anti nationalism . These things will provoke these sentiments to thrives .

    God save India
     
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    For those wondering who was trying to fish in troubled waters:
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  14. Rashna

    Rashna Senior Member Senior Member

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    The consequences of knee jerk reactions.... It could have been handled in a different manner and this kind of publicity could have been avoided..... Now Arundhati Roy has stepped in to the picture....

    Don’t interfere in our activities, student groups tell IIT-Madras

    CHENNAI: A group of 16 student groups came together on Saturday to condemn the ban on the Ambedkar Periyar Student Circle (APSC) at IIT Madras.

    They demanded that IIT Madras withdraw the ban on the APSC immediately.

    "IIT-M must withdraw the ban immediately and not interfere in the activities of student groups as it is a matter of freedom of expression," said U Thilagavathi, a coordinator of the yet to be named umbrella organization.

    The organization consist of groups like Campus Front of India, Tamil Nadu Education Forum and Federation of Tamil Youth and Students.

    Meanwhile, the Democratic Youth Federation of India (DYFI) on Saturday staged a protest in front of IIT-M to condemn the ban. Police detained the protesters.

    The agitating members raised slogans against the Modi-led Union government and HRD minister Smriti Irani even as they were whisked away by the policemen.

    READ ALSO: Protest outside IIT-Madras campus over ban on student body

    They also had a heated exchange of words with the police and raised slogans against the management of IIT-M and sought action against it for derecognizing Ambedkar Periyar Study Circle recently.

    On Friday, IIT Madras justified its decision to derecognize the group. It said that the body was temporarily derecognized as it violated the guidelines of the institute.


    The institute had derecognized the Ambedkar-Periyar Study Circle over an anonymous complaint to the central government that it was trying to spread hatred towards Prime Minister Narendra Modi's policies by distributing provocative pamphlets and posters in the campus, igniting a massive controversy.


    Author Arundhati Roy sent an email to APSC - the banned student group, expressing her support. "You have my unhesitating support. You have touched a nerve — what you are saying and seeing ie: that casteism and corporate capitalism go hand in hand is the last thing the authorities and the government want to hear. Because they know that you are right. It is the most dangerous thing for them to hear right now," she wrote.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...oups-tell-IIT-Madras/articleshow/47480566.cms
     
  15. TejasMK3

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    Arundhati Roy :lol:
    No one cares, these guys are They havent even been banned, just de recognized, other political groups like ABVP are not even allowed to register in the campus. These guys are related to RSYP, which is a group that is known to attack police, and assault school principles etc, and was recommended for a ban even in 2008, guys need to be weeded out quickly.

    Basically these guys ran to the media, and the media played along and made it a "Modi Issue". "Destroy Hinduism" isnt exactly freedom of speech. The press loves writing anti modi bs, that is just the way it is.

    Try putting posters asking to destroy islam or destroy christianity, and see the reaction if the govt "goes slow" on actions after complaints. If you take action against groups for saying Destroy Islam/Destroy Christianity/Abuses Quran/Bible, then the same should be done here.
    People launch police inquiries when they think random arabic text is found crackers and equate it to spoiling religious harmony.
     
  16. Rashna

    Rashna Senior Member Senior Member

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    Nobody cares is another thing, however this issue gets internationalized when such swamp bugs enter the picture.... They should have nipped this business in the bud instead of fanning it further...
     
  17. TejasMK3

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    India is already a terrible place, democracy is a failure, according ato a lecture done Arundhati in Pakistan
    christians are brutally assaulted, muslims are treated horribly thousands of muslims die everyday from riots, and both groups are force converted in the millions. Churches are burnt on a regular basis, all money is used to build temples, education is saffronized.
    Oh also Indian army is brutallu supressing Kashmiris, North east, and poor Tamils, we all need freedom from evil aryan India :p

    Believe this nonsense :lol:



    Here is something:

    http://tlhrc.house.gov/hearing_notice.asp?id=1284

    Violence Against Religious Minorities in India
    Please join Rep. Patrick Meehan, co-chair of the American Sikh Caucus, and Reps. Joseph Pitts and Jim McGovern, co-chairs of the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission, for an important briefing on violence against Muslims, Christians and other religious minorities in India.

    India’s constitution guarantees that “all persons are equally entitled to freedom of conscience and the right freely to profess, practice and propagate religion.” However, attacks against Muslims, Christians, Sikhs and Dalits have increased in recent years. A 2015 report by the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom asked the Obama Administration to press the Indian government to publicly rebuke officials and religious leaders who endorse these hateful acts. In February, President Obama described religious targeting and attacks in India in recent years as “acts of intolerance that would have shocked Gandhi, the person who helped to liberate that nation.”

    This briefing will outline the important legal, social and cultural issues related to the persecution of minorities in India. The panelists will also make recommendations as to how the United States can play a role to safeguard religious minorities in India and around the world.

    WITNESS LIST• Rev. Dr. Joshva Raja, Research Supervisor, University of Amsterdam
    • Dr. Iqtidar Karamat Cheema, Director, Institute for Leadership and Community Development, UK
    • Professor Gurdarshan Sing Dhillon, Professor of History (retired), Punjab University, India
    • Sahar Chaudhry, Senior Policy Analyst, United States Commission on International Religious Freedom
    • John Sifton, Asia Advocacy Director, Human Rights Watch



    :lol: :lol:
     
  18. Rashna

    Rashna Senior Member Senior Member

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    People believe everything that is repeated ad nauseam...... this ambedkar periyar group should have be defused quietly instead of giving them this kind of free run.

     
  19. TejasMK3

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    Cant help their propaganda. Suck it up and move on, the more you develop your economy the more power you will have Then no one will talk bad. Like China, see how no one says anything.

    "what will people say" is a huge problem that exists in peoples mindsets. If you define yourself through others (I.E white praise) you will get nowhere.
     
  20. Rashna

    Rashna Senior Member Senior Member

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    Recently China was in the news for arresting an artist... Eventually people may move on but these movements may not die, RSS itself was banned in its hey days and you know where it is at today.....:)


     
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    Govt has done the right thing in banning the so called discussion forum... All educational institution must be free of such politics inside campus... else these hypocrites will destroy the education institutions in a systematic manner...
     

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