If war takes place today!!

[neo29]

Just imagine a 2 front war along with the string of pearls ;Pakistan ready to use nukes on Indian cities and Chinese advancing in the Northeast and SL and BD aiding their navy and tell me what good the Indian nukes are in this picture?? If this dosen't push us to use our nuclear arsenal then we don't even need to have one.

India has a second strike policy so for sure it will be used. Even during Kargil war the establishment had readied the nukes in case Pakistan uses them. They even calculated the losses acceptable in case Pak nukes strikes us.
So no need to worry, Our nukes are ready.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

India has a second strike policy so for sure it will be used. Even during Kargil war the establishment had readied the nukes in case Pakistan uses them. They even calculated the losses acceptable in case Pak nukes strikes us.
So no need to worry, Our nukes are ready.

Chinese have 600 IRBM's pointed all over India from Tibet so we need absoultely ready.




New book says China nuclearising Tibet

Apprehensive of India's military prowess, China is deploying some two dozen ballistic missiles, including nuclear-capable ICBMs, in Tibet, according to a new book.

Nuclearisation of Tibet by China is becoming a big danger not only to India and South Asia, but to the whole of the world, the book ''Asian Strategic and Military Perspective'' by renowned Defence expert R S N Singh says.

Brought out by Observer Research Foundation, it warns that the nuclearisation of Tibetan plateau is also fraught with disastrous ecological consequences.

The book, released by Marshal of the Indian Air Force Arjan Singh today, cites a source as claiming that one quarter of China's nuclear missile force is deployed in Tibet, which includes medium and intermediate range missiles at Nagchuka and ICBMs at Nyingtri, Kongpo and Powo Tramo.

''A nuclear missile (DF-4 ICBM) launch site is also located at Terlingkha (217 km southeast of Tsaidam),'' the book reveals, noting that if China were not apprehensive of India's military prowess, it would never have embarked on such a massive military infrastructure development in Tibet.


''In Tibet, it has reportedly constructed 14 airbases and an oil pipeline from Gormo to Lhasa. The construction of a 1,118 km-long rail link from Gormo to Lhasa is also underway.'' The book, however, says the nuclearisation of Tibet and the resultant impact of headwater pollution by nuclear pollutants can be devastating for countries like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Bhutan and Vietnam.


Indian Agni missiles deployed in tunnels on Chinese border
http://frontierindia.net/indian-agni-missiles-deployed-in-tunnels-on-chinese-border

 

[LETHALFORCE]

A war with India? Unlikely before China survives US's containment.

China is getting its hands full with US, unless India provokes, China prefers a status quo with India.

China has done the provocation using Pakistan as a proxy, transferring nuclear technology,fuel and missiles.

 

[Param]

A war with India? Unlikely before China survives US's containment.

China is getting its hands full with US, unless India provokes, China prefers a status quo with India.

Sl & BD maybe pro china but if they start aiding them, then India would to punish them really hard. Sl & BD wont do that . The north & East of SL would have still been in the control of the LTTE if India had wanted.

 

[neo29]

China has done the provocation using Pakistan as a proxy, transferring nuclear technology,fuel and missiles.

Thats not provocation, just helping an enemies enemy policy. In that case we are currently provoking them by planning to install m777 US howitzers on the china border.

China may be having xyz number of missile pointing at us. Same is case of India, we surely have some missiles pointing at them irrespective of the number.

But unfortunately i really doubt if the President and PM have the guts to push the nuclear button for the second strike.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Thats not provocation, just helping an enemies enemy policy. In that case we are currently provoking them by planning to install m777 US howitzers on the china border.

China may be having xyz number of missile pointing at us. Same is case of India, we surely have some missiles pointing at them irrespective of the number.

But unfortunately i really doubt if the President and PM have the guts to push the nuclear button for the second strike.

we are not provoking them we are responding to their provocation. For them it is nothing more than a misadventure but for us it is our national security. They started this, we are using the same policy our enemies enemy is now our friend.

 

[civfanatic]

A war with India? Unlikely before China survives US's containment.

China is getting its hands full with US, unless India provokes, China prefers a status quo with India.

Then why does China still claim sovereign Indian territory (Arunachal Pradesh) as its own? That isn't very conducive to "maintaining a status quo".

 

[Yusuf]

LF the scenarios about chinese advances that you have come up with are impossible. How will they advance from SL? How will they from BD? How will they land their forces there? Their navy will not even dream of mounting an expedition like that. India will not strike first as Indias is not a first strike arsenal. Its only a deterrent, Heck even chinese arsenal is not first strike, only two countries have it, US and Russia.

 

[Soham]

Then why does China still claim sovereign Indian territory (Arunachal Pradesh) as its own? That isn't very conducive to "maintaining a status quo".

Because "Status Quo" is very different from a peaceful stand. China intends to keep up the pressure through aggressive claims and FP , while never stepping forward enough to cross the line of provocation.

 

[neo29]

The so called string of pearls in BD, SL, Pak etc are nothing but refueling depots. China does not want to depend on india for fuel for its ship traveling with oil supplies. Its just pyschological war. A military naval base in these locations may have reactions from India and US will not just watch China trying to grow in the Indian Ocean.

So currently string of pearls is just not worth looking at.

 

[pankaj nema]

China cannot conquer Tawang .At the best it can nibble some territory. But massive artillery fire and then Infantry soldiers who will be perched on the mountains with mortars ; will do two things
1. cut off the chinese supply lines.
2. the chinese will be surrounded from both sides.As we were in 1962 war

The entire chinese border is such that defensive warfare is enough.The terrain is to India's advantageAir force , Smerch, and missiles will target supply lines and bases on the other side

The net result is that China looses face .Plus attracts condemnation.
If Taiwan uses this opportunity and declares Independence then China loose more face.
Taiwan is getting stronger by the day and is china's BIGGEST headache.

There has been a "loud thinking" and discussion for creating an Asian NATO against Chinese imperial ambitions.
China would not like that to happen.
If China attacks India , which ,in Asia, is conventionally just next to China ,It would set off alarm bells ringing
throughout Asia , creating an alliance against china.

So all in all China gains nothing.

 

[johnee]

What if Pakistan opens a second front by launching assymetric warfare from POK? What if the chinese use their influence on Naxals and other terrorist outfits in North-East to increase the naxal(and other terrorist) attacks and thereby apply indirect pressure on India?

 

[neo29]

The entire chinese border is such that defensive warfare is enough.The terrain is to India's advantageAir force , Smerch, and missiles will target supply lines and bases on the other side

The eastern sector is more advantageous to China since they are on a elevated height than us. Same thing happened during Kargil war, our soldiers though successful had a hard time to push out infiltrators who were situated on top having advantage.

In 1962 also the PLA had to just come running down.

It is only advantageous to India as the sector due to its geography will mostly see a ground troops warfare. Neither side will risk Tanks and APC in this sector. This is one of the reasons why India going for m777 howitzers to deploy in the eastern sector since its easily lifted by helicopter for transportation.

 

[neo29]

What if Pakistan opens a second front by launching assymetric warfare from POK? What if the chinese use their influence on Naxals and other terrorist outfits in North-East to increase the naxal(and other terrorist) attacks and thereby apply indirect pressure on India?

Though infiltration is still going on from PoK, Pakistan atleast for the next 20 years cannot do another kargil. Last kargil war costed them a bomb. They have their own internal problems and their focus is getting back control on Afghan.

Its likely that China may be helping naxals on the eastern sector and maoists. And currently we are battling them. This problem is a internal war and has to be battled systematically, and thats what the paramilitary doing. IF we go all out on them, the scenario will be similar to what Pakistan is doing with their internal problem and ending up killing civilians. War with naxals and maoist is like curing cancer, u need patience.

Pak is in no state of war, China has bigger problems like Taiwan, Korea, Japan. Not to mention US coming close to their waters trying to encircle them. Apart from Pakistan who is already war torn who else in the region is China's true ally to join them in any war. None. The growing alliance in the region is Japan, South Korea and US which is China's headache for the years to come.

The likely war that China may be involved in coming years will be in the Korean peninsula.

India is must better position than most think.

 

[arya]

What if Pakistan opens a second front by launching assymetric warfare from POK? What if the chinese use their influence on Naxals and other terrorist outfits in North-East to increase the naxal(and other terrorist) attacks and thereby apply indirect pressure on India?

very soon your if is going to be reality and the worst condition is that we don't want to wake up

my question is simple do we ready if a war take place

why dont we guys want to think about the worst condition that can take place and make ourself ready for that

 

[nimo_cn]

China has done the provocation using Pakistan as a proxy, transferring nuclear technology,fuel and missiles.

BS.

Put aside that China has not done those things, even if China had, it can not be called provocation.
US sold F-16s to Pakistan, have you accused US of provoking India? Those are the best planes Pakistan ever has, they are provided by USA instead of China, so are you going to have a war with US?

 

[nimo_cn]

Then why does China still claim sovereign Indian territory (Arunachal Pradesh) as its own? That isn't very conducive to "maintaining a status quo".

South Tibet belongs to China, or at least it is disputed land. It is not Indian territory unless China acknowledged that. I believe we have enough threads on that topic in this forum, thumb through some of them before posting.

By maintaining a status quo, i mean China will not initiate to change the current situation of India's illegal occupation of South Tibet and China will not stop claiming sovereignty over South Tibet. So the status quo i was refering to is India's illegal occupation of ST and China's claiming ST, both will not be changed by China in a short term.

If you are confident India is able to force China to give up on ST, then you can have a try. If you can't, live with China's claiming over that.
There are a lot of territory disputes in other areas of the world, they are called territory disputes because the countries being involved disagree with each other on the territorial boundaries. So in the case of South Tibet, China has done nothing wrong in disputing the legitimacy of MC line. You should stop beating your chest, accusing China of claiming your territory, because it is not your territory yet.

 

[arya]

BS.

Put aside that China has not done those things, even if China had, it can not be called provocation.
US sold F-16s to Pakistan, have you accused US of provoking India? Those are the best planes Pakistan ever has, they are provided by USA instead of China, so are you going to have a war with US?

well USA is not our neighbor its china we want good relation with china but china is using Pakistan against India not just planes you can see all the missile tech from china

if china want good relation with india then why china helping Pakistan and providing them weapons

what will china do its Pakistan weapons fall in terror groups hand and they use against china

 

[civfanatic]

BS.

Put aside that China has not done those things, even if China had, it can not be called provocation.
US sold F-16s to Pakistan, have you accused US of provoking India? Those are the best planes Pakistan ever has, they are provided by USA instead of China, so are you going to have a war with US?

It definitely is provocation, and the US also provokes India. The difference is that China borders India while the US does not. Not to mention that the US is a superpower.

 

[arya]

BS.

Put aside that China has not done those things, even if China had, it can not be called provocation.
US sold F-16s to Pakistan, have you accused US of provoking India? Those are the best planes Pakistan ever has, they are provided by USA instead of China, so are you going to have a war with US?

well USA is not our neighbor its china we want good relation with china but china is using Pakistan against India not just planes you can see all the missile tech from china

if china want good relation with india then why china helping Pakistan and providing them weapons

what will china do its Pakistan weapons fall in terror groups hand and they use against china