If the Indian Army had to start a war with Pakistan

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Nothing should be left to natural consequences or to Allah a.
Even their breaking up has implications for India and India has to be ready for it.

For example when they are breaking up, Pakistan Army will attack India as a last ditch effort to stay together as Pakistan.

That is the first thing they do - stay together due to their hatred for India.
No. Baloch and Sindhis will not stick with them. Pashtuns will more than be glad to merge either sides of Durand.
 

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Take that every thing is favourable as we are discussing a hypothesis.
Actually not. Under the current + 5 years at the most capability and assuming that an NDA govt will show the balls as much as its shouting today.
 

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No. Baloch and Sindhis will not stick with them. Pashtuns will more than be glad to merge either sides of Durand.
It has been the experience that Pakistan has to some extent succeeded in radicalising their societies in the name of Islam and their common hatred is Hindu India. When ever there is a threat of disintegration like in 1971 there is no choice for Pakistani Army but to wage a war.

Kargil is another example of it. When Mushraff perceived that Vajpai and Sharrif were about to reach a breakthrough, Kargill happened.

When Kayani felt Musharraff was about to reach breakthrough on Kashmir, they ousted him and subsequently 26 /11 was conducted to restore that hatred.


The sole reason de aire for existence of Pakistan is India hatred or they have no reason to exist !
 

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No. Baloch and Sindhis will not stick with them. Pashtuns will more than be glad to merge either sides of Durand.
Almost all of South Asia and world overall is suffering because of Pakistan so many countries needs to be involved as well.

Afganistan has suffered a LOT because of Pakis and they would love getting back land beyond Durand Line.Good step would be to provide "moral support" to them and Baloch and Sindhis as well.

Make Pakis a sandwitch.
 

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It has been the experience that Pakistan has to some extent succeeded in radicalising their societies in the name of Islam and their common hatred is Hindu India. When ever there is a threat of disintegration like in 1971 there is no choice for Pakistani Army but to wage a war.

Kargil is another example of it. When Mushraff perceived that Vajpai and Sharrif were about to reach a breakthrough, Kargill happened.

When Kayani felt Musharraff was about to reach breakthrough on Kashmir, they ousted him and subsequently 26 /11 was conducted to restore that hatred.


The sole reason de aire for existence of Pakistan is India hatred or they have no reason to exist !
It's more of a PakJab and Mohajir mindset. Baloch Nationalists and Sindhi Nationalists will not join them. Baloch are more than welcoming of Indian help. Pakis are already petrified of Indian consulates in Astan which it says is targetted against Paksitan and meddling in Balochistan though it's giving undue credit to RAW.
 

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Almost all of South Asia and world overall is suffering because of Pakistan so many countries needs to be involved as well.


Make Pakis a sandwitch.


So that they bite you more like rabid dogs !! They are already paranoid and half psychos.. their slogan is "Jiye Jiye Pakistan" and the nation is already into existentialist mode.
 

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Rather than Pakistan let us focus on our internal issues and illegal Bangladeshi immigration into Assam and west Bengal.Also a better livelihood for our countrymen and a more reformed Hinduism.Pakistan is already over
 

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Rather than Pakistan let us focus on our internal issues and illegal Bangladeshi immigration into Assam and west Bengal.Also a better livelihood for our countrymen and a more reformed Hinduism.Pakistan is already over
NO the problem is that Pakistani activities are preventing India in considerable manner to do that. That is the whole issue and not that any one is psycho-pathetically against Pakistan...

For achieving the goals you espoused, interference into internal situation by Pakistan by terrorism must stop. That was made clear in the beginning. You have not read the posts.
 

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NO the problem is that Pakistani activities are preventing India in considerable manner to do that. That is the whole issue and not that any one is psycho-pathetically against Pakistan...

For achieving the goals you espoused, interference into internal situation by Pakistan by terrorism must stop. That was made clear in the beginning. You have not read the posts.
They have been meddling in NE for donkeys years.
 

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They have been meddling in NE for donkeys years.
In fact every one has been meddling with NE for donkeys years. First being the Evangelist Church, the western powers and then Pakistan (East Pakistan)... and also China

The problem is that Pakistani elites are not at peace with themselves or are not satisfied with Partition though they engineered it.They see that by partition, they in fact have lost out. So in revenge they keep needling India and enlarge their influence. But in the process have lost half the Pakistan. Are in the process of lossing more and No religious ideology can be a cementing factor in India where people under duress or by choice have changed their religion many times.. they need economic development rather than religion.....

The lost case and greedy buggers .
 

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Pakistan violates CFA in Jammu and Kashmir
Violating the Cease Fire Agreement (CFA) of 2003, Pakistani Rangers opened firing on the International Border (IB) at Arnia sector of Jammu District in the night of August 5, reports Daily Excelsior. Official reports said the Rangers started firing at Kot Kubba and Budhwar posts of Arnia sector at 8.40pm. There were no casualties or damage in the firing, which continued till late night.

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Kya yar, Blank Quest... tell me why should India attack Pakistan ??
 

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Kya yar, Blank Quest... tell me why should India attack Pakistan ??
Attacking Physically is an Old tactic. India should Start giving "Smart attacks" in Pok. Send people ("Internantional Tourists") there for tourism with "Staple Visa".
Create an Administration-in-exile units for administrative units ( Not Govt-in-exile ) in India for Pok. Open Consulates for Staple Visa from other countries. Indian Diplomats have to be inventive . Create more cleavage b/w separatist groups with giving them more representation in Administration-in-exile units. Give them Ministerial Status.

India main kuch karne ka mann ho tab na hoga... saale chor netaa :mad:
 

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Attacking Physically is an Old tactic. India should Start giving "Smart attacks" in Pok. Send people ("Internantional Tourists") there for tourism with "Staple Visa".
Create an Administration-in-exile units for administrative units ( Not Govt-in-exile ) in India for Pok. Open Consulates for Staple Visa from other countries. Indian Diplomats have to be inventive . Create more cleavage b/w separatist groups with giving them more representation in Administration-in-exile units. Give them Ministerial Status.

India main kuch karne ka mann ho tab na hoga... saale chor netaa :mad:

Staple Visa Diplomacy is a war !!
 

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tell me why should India attack Pakistan ??
If you do not mind, we will discuss this question, after we finish Pakistan.

May in this way......why we finished them? :yey:
 

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If you do not mind, we will discuss this question, after we finish Pakistan.

May in this way......why we finished them? :yey:
you mean to say let nature take its course ?? As it is they are finished. But is not finished is their ability to mount an attack in Mumbay !! Waht do you do with that?
 

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you mean to say let nature take its course ??
As it is they are finished.
But is not finished is their ability to mount an attack in Mumbay !!
Waht do you do with that?
That is why I said, this war, name it as a war for part of Indian Kashmir which is known as POK right now, Free Sindhi and Free Balochistan.

Take as much help you can get, may be under the cover.

Well, (in worst case when you are at war) yes India have to (must) take these risk.
 
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That is why I said, this war, name it as a war for part of Indian Kashmir which is known as POK right now, Free Sindhi and Free Balochistan.

Take as much help you can get, may be under the cover.

Well, (in worst case when you are at war) yes India have to (must) take these risk.
In order to free Sindh and Baluchistan, one does not have to wage a war against Pakistan. It can be done otherwise. May be IA would be required to impart a final push just to help them. But that may not stop terrorism in India.

I am asking you all which is that aim which can be achieved only by war? Or can be better achieved if we thrash Pakistan in a war?
 
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In order to free Sindh and Baluchistan, one does not have to wage a war against Pakistan. It can be done otherwise. May be IA would be required to impart a final push just to help them. But that may not stop terrorism in India.

I am asking you all which is that aim which can be achieved only by war? Or can be better achieved if we thrash Pakistan in a war?
The entire state machinery capable of war and terror has to be destroyed.(read PA/ISI)
:Like i said before, the war will have to severely degrade the PA. Fragmentation of Pakistan using its own internal divisions which cut off Pak from the sea and also the west where it seeks strategic depth as the Pashtuns will have their own agenda. Pakistan will be confined to Punjab. That is what we are seeking. The Punjabi population humiliated by India will not be too kind on the remnants of the PA. Either way, even if they chose to remain hostile with India, they dont have much room to maneuver as they have lost a lot of territory to separatists.
 

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