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  1. jackprince

    jackprince Turning into a frog Senior Member

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    Well well well .... so this is the face of free and impartial media... is it?

    Shazia and manish at least quite job before joining AAP. This guy is corrupt himself, as he failed in his responsibility of impartial and unbiased journalism. Lets see how many AAP fan supports the move here.

    btw, already the tide is turning against BJP, as half-informed educated people are talking like a new god has come in form of AK. Several of my colleague, who were honestly not hard-liners, started changing track toward AK, abandoning Modi. They don't consider in depth, but is influenced by the media. They don't care about agenda, only interested in propaganda in favour of AAP. At least AAP has got six months to disillusion these folks, else the hope of a good future is gone.
     
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    He is a village boy and son of a petty official, who has done well. so I heard him say so on TV.

    He has ambitions!

    He has seen the fish and loaves of office.

    Why grudge him his desire to rise above his childhood existence.
     
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    Many confused enthusiast are joining AAP, nothing new in it. In coming days India is going to see policy crisis if things go same.
     
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    Those joining are not confused.

    They are riding on hope that the system can be changed.

    It can be changed.

    But the said part, is that they talk in multiple voices, each pursuing their own agenda.

    And Kejriwal thinks populism will ride him to the PM's seat.

    He should learn his political ropes as the CM and then think BIG!

    Water and electricity is not all that plagues India and populism has landed Congress in donkey manure!
     
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    A chauhan "अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथैव च: l" Senior Member

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    Anna has asked AAP to not fight LS this year, but in 2019, he has asked them to learn and perform in Delhi, I also think so.

    BTW Ashutosh was Anna's fan and he has written a book on his campaign. Now things getting clear, it's Anna effect which is working for AAP.
     
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    Most of joining AAP to encash the opprtunity not for so called holy mission to change the system. Before changing the system the people need to change themselves. We can expect system change only from selfless people with vision rather from [Exclusive/ only on XYZ channel] sensation mongering greedy journos who earns their bread out of misery/murder/rape/scandals.

    It is quiet sad to see AAP is recruiting ranks of greedy selfish opprtunist who are just good with their tongue. As such no party at present can claim to change the system as no party neither has that level of virtues & set of larger vision nor ranks to do so practically.

    Lesser informed citizens are just being fooled enmasse with populist mass psychology.

    If one believes that AAP sort can change system then one is living in the land of utopia.
     
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    Yeah, i got a feeling its more about getting an opportunity to get in Indian political system, being a politician in India has perks. I hope people are not joining because of this.
     
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    if i amn't mistaken,in seemandhra-many of u vote for ysr and tdp-bjp second slot.
     
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    Agreed.



    Absolutely disagree.
     
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    That's the biggest reason for many of them(especially the local supporters), but the thing is atleast for now a common man with big ambitions(to be a Rich MLA neta after a few years) can hope to ride into the politics in the name of AAP especially after Delhi results. If AAP becomes big too soon in LS than , It could be more dangerous not because they will be more corrupt than previous Netas, but because they will have many many people in the party with such intentions, who joined AAP for their personal motivs rather than just only for the cause of the people, and than slowly it will become just anther political party and offcourse being a third front govt will spell disaster.

    Many of AAP supporters were previously Congressi supporter is also a fact. These previously long term Kon supporters are at the mental level where for years in justifying their vote to Kongressis(AKA against BJP),now they can't think of voting BJP for imaginary reasons they have in their mind(it takes time to shift the thought process) and AAPCON's came in just the right time. So these confused AAPCONs supporters didn't have to think much going for AAP. they are ones who are still looking for alternative, even when their is already a best alternative for LS-2014, just like some of hardcore BJPs supporter who will never vote for others as long as BJP acts good enough.
     
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    Why didn't he join AAP before delhi election?? Why now?
    At least he resigned IBN7 and then joined a political party, otherwise there are many journos who are giving their "outside support" to the political parties.
     
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    I am in Seema Andhra, but I am not from Seema Andhra .. and I don't vote here, either.
     
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    Excellent article...must read for everyone....right, left & center:

    LS polls 2014: Blinded by AAP’s rise, BJP may lose the plot

    For a party that seemed to be finally getting its act together after 10 years, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) is almost where it was in 2004 - angry, surly and unnecessarily touchy on issues.

    After 2004's unexpected defeat, the party lived in denial for nine years till Narendra Modi came along. Instead of building the national party and drumming up popular support, its leaders turned bitter and obstructionist in parliament. The party lacked a coherent policy at the national level, even though it always had strength at the state level. Now, blindsided by the sudden rise of the Aam Aadmi Party (AAP), the party is thrashing about in fury. It is in danger of losing the plot as it suspects it may be cheated out of a sure win in the general elections - and settle for a sub-180 seat strength in the next Lok Sabha. A sub-180 seat count makes it tougher for Modi to make it to PM.

    The BJP is right to worry about the AAP, but it should be spending more time monitoring the national mood rather than worrying about what AAP is doing or saying. If AAP is rising and attracting new recruits, it is because the citizen is making new demands on political parties - and rejuvenation calls for addressing these issues. It is a simple truth in the corporate world that if your customers are changing, you have to change too. The rules are no different for political parties. They too need reinvention. Rahul Gandhi has realised it, though he is the wrong man for the job. Modi may be the right man for BJP, but one wonders if the party is willing to change as fast.

    A Times of India poll today (9 January 2014) shows an overwhelming swing in the urban metropolitan mood towards AAP, with 44 percent saying they will back AAP in the Lok Sabha polls and 27 percent saying they would do so if the candidate is right. If the survey is anywhere representative of reality (unlikely, since the issues are still not framed for the Lok Sabha polls), AAP could end up anywhere near 20-40 seats. We don't know yet if the rural mood is also partially shifting now that AAP is rapidly establishing its urban viability, but that is another story.

    The BJP's response to AAP's unexpected surge has ranged from denial to aggressive counter-attacks - as in the case of Prashant Bhushan's remarks on Kashmir. It may be unfair to link Wednesday's attack by a Hindu organisation on AAP's Ghaziabad office with the BJP, but public perceptions will still see the two as linked - something Prashant Bhushan was quick to claim. The BJP will be blamed no matter what. The only plausible stand for the BJP to take in such a situation is to appear calm and cool – something its spokespersons are not displaying right now.

    The BJP needs to realise that Kashmir won't be the core issue in the next elections, and if it responds to every such provocation by outliers like Prashant Bhushan, it is in danger of making AAP a martyr. After that AAP will be setting the national agenda - if it hasn't done so already. If the BJP wants to mould the agenda to its advantage, it has to respond to the electorate, not AAP. AAP is a product of the developing national mood, not its solution. It does not have a well-thought-out political or economic strategy as yet, but as it starts on a clean state, it will always be given the benefit of doubt. Its strength is its start-up speed and ability to respond to flashmob democratic needs - something the bigger parties are unable to do. The question is: what is the new national mood? And what has changed in the last two months, where we have seen the AAP wave gathering speed, while the Modi bandwagon has hit a speedbreaker?

    My answer is this: the earlier mood, which was merely one of anger against the Congress party's misgovernance, was about anti-incumbency and change. After the AAP near-victory in Delhi established its political viability, the mood has now altered significantly. It is no longer a throw-the-b******s-out kind of anger, but includes new, growing strands of hope. Public expectations have shifted from mere change to change with hope. AAP fits this bill naturally, given its spectacular debut in Delhi and the fresh faces it brings in. It is seen to be bringing in not just change but new hope too. It is not tarnished by association with old-style politics. The BJP also shares part of the change agenda, but there is a gap in filling the hope agenda. If it wants to halt the AAP surge, it has to drive a new agenda of change right now to tell the people what it brings to the table. Without a positive agenda of new ideas, big ideas, it will be seen as merely a shade better than the Congress.

    To revive its fortunes between now and April, the BJP has to take risks with a new agenda that will capture popular imagination. And yes, it has to abandon its sulks and flashes of anger over the sudden rise of AAP and the media's honeymoon with the new kid on the block. Attacking the media for its current obsession with AAP is pointless, for the media also comes from the same population that sees hope in AAP. But, as always, this honeymoon will not last indefinitely with the media. In a flashmob democracy where media, including social media, can amplify the public mood rather quickly, new parties and waves can be created rather quickly. Yogendra Yadav told The Indian Express the other day that if he had another year to prepare for the Lok Sabha polls, he would have been happier. He said: “…If I had my way with the Election Commission, I would ask them to postpone the 2014 polls by a year!” He is likely to be wrong. It is in AAP's interest to grow like wildfire when the urban public is in love with it and does not know what it stands for. A year later, the warts will be visible on Arvind Kejriwal's face and the Sheila Dikshit fiasco will be forgotten.

    Also, AAP will find it difficult to reconcile the interests of right and left that are currently driving it. Corporate honchos like Hero Motocorp CEO Pawan Munjal, ex-Infosys CFO V Balakrishnan and ex-banker Meera Sanyal will not find it easy to live in the same tent as a socialist Prashant Bhushan, who wants to rope in CPM veteran VS Achuthanandan and anti-nuclear activists into AAP. These contradictions will all hang out a year later, which is why an early election helps AAP. For the BJP, it is clear what it must do: monitor what the voter really wants, offer a clear governance and economic agenda of hope, and do this quickly - as in yesterday. It has to offer an alternative to AAP and the regional parties who are not its partners, not Congress. The Congress agenda is clear; enable AAP to roll back the Modi wave and keep the BJP seats at 170 or below, stymie Modi's hopes, prop up a third front for two years and then offer itself as an alternative to AAP confusion. If AAP heads, or is part of, a multi-party coalition comprising Left and regional parties, it will end up discrediting itself faster on the anti-corruption plank since all third front parties are no less corrupt than the Congress. The BJP actually has more options before it than seems possible.

    First, if we accept the reality that the regional parties are as wary of AAP as BJP, they will have to choose what they think is the lesser evil. Some could choose the BJP, for it is hardly likely that AAP can partner the DMK or AIADMK in Tamil Nadu, or a Jagan Mohan Reddy in Andhra Pradesh, or the NCP-Congress in Maharashtra, or the Samajwadi Party in Uttar Pradesh without denting its own credentials. One should not be too surprised if an 180-plus BJP finds at least outside support from some of the regional parties. However, whatever the poll outcome, one thing is clear: the BJP, like any other major party, has to focus on building it economic ideology and grassroots strengths.

    It is more than likely that the party is stronger than it seems in the south and east, and weaker than it seems in the north and the west. Both call for organisational growth and investment. If it does not come to power in 2014, it cannot afford to fritter away the opposition space like Messrs LK Advani, Nitin Gadkari, Sushma Swaraj, Rajnath Singh and Arun Jaitley did after 2004. Ultimately, the AAP and BJP will be enemies – and this is what the BJP has to prepare for politically. It has to provide the centre-right ballast against AAP/Congress centre-left leanings.
     
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    ok. Well i think u can gauge the mood there!
    OR no?
     
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    The ears are blocked of the beholder!

    But since it appears you are from the AAP, I will believe you that they do not talk in multiple voices

    And that Prashant Bhushan wanting the plebiscite in Kashmir is the Voice and Policy of the AAP!

    I also take it that Sisodia's 90% reservation of seats in the Delhi Colleges is the policy of the AAP.

    If so, it is music to the ears of the BJP!
     
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    By TFI.
    BTW recently 1 IFS, 2 IAS, 1 IITian also joined BJP, but no hoopla abt that. :sad:
    [​IMG]
     
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    For a hoop la, one has to go to a circus.
     
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    I don't subscribe to your opinions, and neither am I from AAP nor am I oblivious to their shortcomings.

    Some Indians want change, and at the same time they want old style theatrics to define politics .... sigh.. .

    Prashant Bhushan's views on Kashmir are not the voice and policy of AAP, this has been clarified officially and yet you chose to harangue on this point. Blocked ears of the naysayers ?

    I endorse a majority reservation of seats in Delhi for Delhites.
     
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    Yes, more entertainment. I have always valued AAP for providing entertainment.
     
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    what reasons? then every state(ones having good institutions in all areas) demands the same? Delhi being the national capital enjoyed every kind of support at the cost of everyone's money, but colleges were not opened to cater the needs of selective people but for Indians. than those states who were left behind? like MP or Rajasthan or even Gujrat, Hariyana etc etc.

    in case of Bhushan dialog, if he was just another member of AAP, then its ok, otherwise its like Blaming goes to Manmohan and all other con members, but all good things are accounted for Con party and madam.

    So far I have seen only giving out Doles and going back on your own words. Lets see what next. :)
     

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