IAF to induct first killer drones

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  1. Sridhar

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    Published October 4, 2012 | By admin

    SOURCE: PTI

    The Indian Air Force is planning to induct its first self-destructing combat drones from Israel by next year for enhancing its firepower.

    The Israeli-made Harop unmanned combat air vehicle (UCAV) will give IAF the capability of hitting high value targets such as enemy missile and radar sites without sending its manned fighter aircraft.

    IAF to induct first killer drones | idrw.org
     
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    What is the advantage of a suicide drone over a cruise missile?
     
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    now they are think they will take at least one year for thinking one years for tender one years for thinking and at last they will cancel the order
     
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    Harop has Loitering capability . The operator can select the target if the enemy radar is switched off

    Israel Exports Loitering Anti-Missile Drone
     
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    Nirbhay has loitering capability too. Will Harop still be relevant after the induction of Nirbhay?
     
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    Harop has 2 mode 1. Auto (RF Seeker ) 2. User Selected (Electro-Optical Sensors) . Nirbhay has only one mode and its induction is few years away if it demonstrates it capabilities.Only time can tell.
     
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    Indian Air Force to induct first killer drones

    NEW DELHI: The Indian Air Force is planning to induct its first self-destructing combat drones from Israel by next year for enhancing its firepower.

    The Israeli-made Harop unmanned combat air vehicle (UCAV) will give IAF the capability of hitting high value targets such as enemy missile and radar sites without sending its manned fighter aircraft.

    "The UCAV are expected to join us by next year enhancing our firepower in both conventional and low intensity conflict," a senior IAF official told PTI here.

    Harop will be IAF's first combat UAV for offensive strikes, though it already possesses a fleet of Searcher and Heron UAVs to perform surveillance and reconnaissance roles.

    Unlike the Predator drones being used by the US against the Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan that can fire missiles and return after a mission, the Harop is self-destructing, making them a more expensive option.

    Developed by the Israel Aerospace Industries, the Harop UCAVs were bought by India two years ago under a deal expected to be worth over Rs 500 crore.

    The UCAV cannot only hit enemy radars by locking on to their radio emissions, but also has an electro-optical sensor that allows the remote operator to select static or moving targets in a battlefield.

    Harop, with a 23-kg warhead, is 2.5 metre long with a 3-metre wingspan and has a six-hour endurance.

    The DRDO is also working on some projects to develop indigenous combat UAVs but they are at an advanced stage.

    Indian Air Force to induct first killer drones - The Economic Times
     
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    Endurance and ability to soft land. The UCAV can stay in the air for long periods of time, 6 hours in this case, and engage the target after it is found. Comparatively, Nirbhay will be fired after the target is found.

    UCAV can land if it's running low on fuel, refuel and go back if needed. Nirbhay will either find it's target or simply self-destruct.

    Harop won't be expensive as compared to Nirbhay.
     
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    Harop has an anti radar seeker that specifically locks onto enemy radar and then destroy them. Nirbhay being a
    loitering missile with a much bigger warhead is made for bigger targets. Harop was originally developed by israel to
    counter iranian s-300's (when delivered?).
     
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    We should get a base in afghanistan so we can fly these over pakistan and eliminate terrorists.
     
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    we can do the same thing from our border with pak but use a UCAV like predator
    or reaper or Rustom in the future when weaponized.
     
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    So can we say that Harop will perform SEAD missions for IAF?
     
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    Harop does the same as the AGM-88 HARM, KH-31P, R-27P, ALARM or the Brazilian MAR(PAF took deliveries of a 100 missiles I suppose). Basically what you call an Anti-radiation missile. It locks on to radar emissions and homes in passively. Meant for SEAD.

    It is not always guaranteed to succeed because enemy radars may have good ECCM capabilities which allow it to break track. So, if the lock is broken, then the UCAV starts loitering until it finds something else to hit. There is an advantage and a disadvantage too. The disadvantage being it is not as fast as the missiles I mentioned and the advantage being its slow speed allows the controller to terminate an attack.
     
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    Also, since UCAV is slower, can't it be taken out by the same SAM system it was sent to attack in the first place?
     
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    Yeah. It is most vulnerable to the very target it is supposed to take out.
     
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    loitering and long stand by time... to be mainly used in shore defense.
     
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    can drones be used as a counter insurgency instrument in the forest areas.....go easy on me im a noob
     
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    mate drones have been used extensively for the past few years in counter-insurgency operations throughout India.it has been used by the CAPF(Central Armed Police Forces) for anti naxalite operations in Chattisgarh and in the whole central Indian region,but the problem is that these drones are mere surveillance drones which don't have any offensive capibility.on the other hand UCAV(Unmanned Combat Ariel Vehicle) like Predator,Reaper or Rustam-MALE version which India is currently developing have the capability to neutralise enemy targets anywhere at any time.here the IAF has ordered the Israeli self-destructive UCAV-Harlop which is somewhat different from the normal UCAVs currently in the business.while it can track and neutralise any potential enemy target it will also get self destructed unlike the Predator or the Reaper version of UCAV which have an array of anti-tank,air to surface hellfire missiles at their disposal!
     
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    Can't DRDO convert Lakshya target drone into Killer drone??? fixing it with explosive War head?? :confused:
     

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