IAF to increase level of its force in Andaman and Nicobar

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  1. RPK

    RPK Indyakudimahan Senior Member

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    IAF to increase level of its force in Andaman and Nicobar
    IAF to increase level of its force in Andaman and Nicobar, IBN Live News

    PTI | 09:06 PM,Jun 23,2011

    New Delhi, Jun 23 (PTI) In the backdrop of increasing Chinese activities in the Bay of Bengal and Indian Ocean region, the Indian Air Force is planning to increase the level of its forces in the Andaman and Nicobar islands."Of course, we are but in a planned manner. Its not immediately over a next two or three plans we have to build up Andaman and Nicobar islands," IAF Chief Air Chief marshal P V Naik told reporters here.The IAF chief was responding to queries about the need to build up its assets in the island territory in view of the activities of other forces there.The IAF has in the recent past operated its frontline SU-30MKI air superiority aircraft from its bases in Car Nicobar islands.Reports in the past have suggested that the Chinese Navy has been active close to the Coco Islands in Myanmar and has been operating there.To strengthen its defences, India has already set up a tri-services command under a three-star officer in the region close to the South East Asian countries.IAF has been strengthening its presence in the South to protect the country's interests in the Indian Ocean Region.With the induction of force multipliers such as the mid-air refullers, the Air Force has expanded its strategic reach and is capable of carrying out long range operations.PTI AJD AD
     
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    utubekhiladi The Preacher Elite Member

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    it is naval air arm who needs to boost its defenses in islands.
     
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    They should have done it long time back. i personally visited Andaman islands in 1995. India failed to recon its importance as big naval base. Jai ho
     
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    ace009 Freakin' Fighter fan Elite Member

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    The Naval air arm is not good enough at this time. All they have is a few Mig-29Ks and a few Harriers. Even one squadron of Su-30 MKI will be good there.
     
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    utubekhiladi The Preacher Elite Member

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    right, but you cannot expect air force to do the job of naval air arm. we need to modernize Naval Air Arm asap..
     
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    There should be assets from both IAF and IN air arm in the Andamans.

    Su-30MKIs (IAF) for air superiority and P-8Is (IN) for ASW and maritime patrol.
     
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    then where will you put Mig29k's and upcoming tejas navy variant? if you really want su30mki to protect that Island then i recommend that you give dozen of mki's along with required talents to naval air arm rather than involving IAF in that area. why engage 2 resouces when one can do the job. we need IAF to protect north. IAF and INS operation are different from each other.

    i think Mig29k is a splendid fighter and specially designed for navy operations. Mig29k and along with tejas naval version should pack enough punch to protect our interest in that island.
     
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    All Mig-29s have short ranges. Even with all upgrades, the Mig 29K still has a smaller combat radius (1000 km) than the Su 30 MKI (1500 km). It can also carry fewer AA missiles. This is because Mig 29K has been developed as a naval carrier fighter-bomber and is not an air-superiority fighter like the MKI.

    In short, IAF and IN should both be present in the islands - one for Air superiority and one for air-denial/ strike missions.

    Russian Navy will replace the Su-33 with MiG-29K aircraft carriers as -- China daily
     
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    MiG-29Ks and Tejas-Ns both belong on carrier decks, not on air strips. The MiG-29K will be used as the primary carrier-borne fighter, and the Tejas will serve as an advanced trainer and light striker.

    The Su-30MKIs should be placed in the Andamans because of their great range. Their responsiblity should not necessarily be the protection of the islands themselves, but the area around it. The Andamans guard a vital patch of ocean that seperates the Malacca Sea from the Bay of Bengal. In order for our naval interdiction and ASW assets to operate freely in this environment, there needs to be a dedicated air superiority fighter to deny the airspace to enemy aircraft. A quick look at a map will give a good idea of what I'm talking about.

    If necessary, we can hand over a squadron of MKIs to the IN to make operations easier. The Russian Naval Aviation actually operates land-based Su-27s in a similar role.


    The fundamental problem with the MiG-29K is its short range, which makes it unsuitable for air superiority operations from the Andamans. It is a great fighter for carrier operations I agree, but that's not what we're talking about here.
     
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    Their are some squadrons of for specially Naval attack or Maritime role, like Jaguar-IM and Su-30MKI, so no need to feel tension. the Brahmos ASCM is deployed in similar role of Su-30MKI.....
     
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    LCA is more or less same as MIG-29 in strike attack also CAP missions, Both fighter are good enough..

    The placement of 25 or two squadrons of MKI in Andaman is to carry out long range antiship with brahmos also in CAP..

    The only fighter we will face is from PLAN carrier..

    Andaman needed to be fortified, More Ground based Brahmos and other cruise missiles, More airbases, More fighter, More Docks, More men with Armour in plenty..
     
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    I don't expect the PLAN carrier to come anywhere close to the Indian Ocean. It will stay put in the pacific closer to home.

    We need strike aircrafts in the Andamans to take care of any threats on the ground. I don't think air superiority will be required there. There is no challenge to India in the air in that region. We are the most powerful AF here.
     
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    Unless you cut the trade routes, This routes are life line for China and PLAN responsibility to secure it, In presence of IAF over Andamans its obvious PLAN will use Carrier borne fighters to counter it or capture it..

    The trade route supply China most of its oil..
     
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    also we need to station some of our missile assets in there to keep china in cheque.
     
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    Also, an IAF base in the Andamans will cause India's allies like Malayasia, Singapore and Vietnam to breath easy as they can expect Indian help sooner in case of Chinese aggression. India should form a defence pact with the SEATO nations ASAP.
     
  17. Kunal Biswas

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    Some Comparison Between MIG-29K & NLCA..

    MIG-29K

    US$46.25 million including spares and support





    NLCA



    US$31.09 million (Naval version)
     
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    So Kunal, why are we wasting our money on the Russian (junk) Mig-29Ks again? Why don't the navy ask HAL to pinch their nose and build them 20-25 N-LCA in the next 2 years?
     
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    Do you think China will send it's lone carrier to IOR? I don't think so
     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    The answer lies in LCA program itself..

    Yes, Its stupid thinking abt it, But what other choice they have ?

    Airsupport From mainland to Andaman is not possible even with refuelers, The only possibility is a Aircraft carrier..
     
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    Unless they are flying over Myanmar over the mountains.
     

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