IAF to get BrahMos by year-end

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  1. bhramos

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    BrahMos supersonic cruise missile, which can travel three times faster than sound, is expected to be inducted into the Indian Air Force (IAF) by end of 2013, said A Sivathanui Pillai, chief executive officer and managing director of BrahMos Aerospace, in his address at Vellore on the occasion of the 22nd convocation day of Thanthai Periyar Government Institute of Technology on Sunday.

    “Two Su-30MKI aircraft will be equipped with the missiles, which will enable them to hit targets on the ground accurately,” Pillai said. The BrahMos supersonic cruise missile was developed under the Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme, said Pillai, who is also the chief controller (research and development), Defence Research and Development Organisation.

    “Today, the Indian Army is the only army in the world to possess the supersonic cruise missile,” informed Pillai, adding,“In the next stage, we will be developing hypersonic cruise Mach 7 missiles. This is expected to be completed in five years.”

    “We have received enquiries from several friendly countries and Russia has agreed to supply it to other countries. He said ISRO could be launching its Mars mission by November this year. He said the technology developed by DRDO has several civil applications. One of them is the fiberglass technology which can be used to produce light weight callipers for those suffering from polio and cerebral palsy and find it difficult to walk.

    IAF to get BrahMos by year-end - The New Indian Express
     
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    Brahmos for other third countries...I strongly opposed


    I fear if transfered to other countries may China and US should crack the Technology
     
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    New Indian Express news :rofl:
     
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    Brahmos-I should be exported once Brahmos-II hypersonic enters service.
     
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    why russian army not using it ?
     
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    they have long range cruise missiles on their inventory, so they dont need Brahmos which has range of only 300 km.
     
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    Their Navy doesn't have the platforms capable of carrying Brahmos. Their Army has little interest in a 300Km missile.

    Things should change with air version of Brahmos. They are also inducting new frigates and submarines capable of carrying Brahmos, so Brahmos will have to compete with Klub series of missiles.
     
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    Crack the technology? We were dinking around with this stuff ~40 years ago; but found more efficient ways to accomplish the mission without resorting to a nearly 3-ton missile with short legs and a tiny warhead. I'm guessing the Chinese will put more effort into copying JASSM/LRASM-A than Brahmos, so no worries for you.:D
     
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    Does US has any supersonic cruise missile in their kitty?JASSM is subsonic.

    Do not blabber if you do not have it.
     
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    What would be the reduction in weight achieved (for Brahmos) ?
    Is it 2 tons now or around 2.5 tons ?
    What compromises were made, if any, to achieve this weight reduction?
    MKI's would carry them under fuselage wetpoints or pylons ?
    Have the modifications been completed on them ?
    Can other aircrafts with IAF (maybe upgraded Mirage, upgraded Jags, Mig29K, etc.) with sufficient payload rigged to carry the Brahmos ?
     
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    How does Klub fare with respect to Brahmos ?

    AFAIK, Klub is mostly sub-sonic throughout it flight profile & gets near 2.8 Mach near terminal stage but which approach would be more lethal, capable of negotiating anti-missile defenses & accurate ?
     
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    both are accurate, but Brahmos is like ferrari going at the constant speed to the target, Klub start slow but as it reach the target it pick up speed. To counter anti missile system you have to understand how enemy ABM work and then you can counter them.
     
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    US has nothing even remotely capable like Brahmos or even Klub. They have the extremely useless harpoon and will depend on numerical strength to take on any adversary whether libya or iran.
     
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    I think they removed the initial booster sequence since its air launched. Experts like @Kunal Biswas and @sayareakd can answer better
     
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    The only situation where the Americans are victorious nowadays are against enemies who are technologically inferior are outmatched in tactics. They can't take on irrational combat doctrines(read Guerrilla warfare in Vietnam).

    The Americans don't have anything remotely comparable to the BrahMos. The Exocet is better than there Harpoons.
     
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    yeah cold launch booster and the small rocket motor cap is not require instead aerodynamic cap will take its place may be very very small motor to move it aside when launch.

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    two new brahmos missile, one is reduced weight missile to be launched from other aircrafts and other is Brahmos II version.
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    Well it is not that US can't but the it doesn't have it, maybe it do not fit in their requirement list. More over in fact they believe in long range strike weapons.
    US had cruise missile,ICBM,SLBM, Space Shuttles in the early 60s and 70s and are infact pioneers or many military technologies.
    More over long range birds like SR-71 Blackwidow which even got retired from active service had engine capable to act like ramjet, something decades advance then our Kaveri engine, leave aside aircraft aero dynamics and technologies :facepalm:
     
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    Yeah, its just that a huge missile like Brahmos with a bigger cross-section is detected much earlier than Klub, so even though shooting it maybe difficult owing to speed but early detection increases it vulnerability. That's one reason why hardly any armed-forces make use of such short-range supersonic missiles. The whole design philosophy behind Brahmos is somewhat different.

    Subsonic long-range missiles like Nirbhay, Tomahawk, Sea-Scalp/Storm Shadow & Babur are lot more popular, owing to their low detectability, long range with lesser fuel & cost & bigger warhead. I believe, this is the class of missile (around 1000-2000 Km range) DRDO should be more focussed on, keeping China in hindsight.
     
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    Saya BrahMos do not have any boosters, but a solid rocket fuel in the lower section of the vehicle which when exhausted, the chamber acts as the combustion chamber for the Ramjet ignition.
     
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    Two things first is that navigation for Brahmos is Indian so you can send the missile any way you like it to the target that is why we have Brahmos Block I, II and III.
    block I is normal land attack brahmos missile shown in the video
    Block II can go pass cutters to accurately hit the target in the large mess of target and counter techinques.
    Block III can go and hit shadow part of mountain.

    Second part is that DRDO knows it is necessary to have long range and very long range missile, that is why new long range hypersonic missile is under development at the same time expect enemy to shock by the range of brahmos. Plus this on which not much attention was given

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    BTW this is klub missile target video


    Brahmos has shown hitting the bulls eyes so many times
     
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