IAF says 'No' to Army's bid to control attack helicopters

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  1. AVERAGE INDIAN

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    New Delhi, Oct 5, 2012, (PTI) :

    The IAF today said it has rejected Army's demand to have their own attack and medium-lift helicopters contending that the country can't afford to have these "little air forces" growing up to do their "own things".

    The Army has been demanding the control over attack and medium-lift helicopters saying they are mainly used for supporting its operations and that is why should be under it.

    The IAF operates two squadrons of Russian-origin Mi-35/25 attack choppers and is in the process of acquiring another one from the US in near future.

    "Last year in May, when the previous Army Chief was there, the IAF had made an offer that it was willing to let them have their own attack helicopters but that was not accepted as they wanted medium-lift helicopter also for which we said no," Air Chief Marshal N A K Browne told reporters here.

    He was asked about Army's demand for control over attack helicopters.

    The IAF chief said the world over, there was integration between the armed forces over the use of assets though these were controlled by separate wings and that "was the way of future".

    "We have no major objection except for the fact that this integration model around the world is working.... We can't have these little air forces growing and doing there own things. Tomorrow if the Coast Guard asks for submarines, will we give them submarines from the Navy," he asked.

    Browne said Government of India in 1986 under Services integration rules had said medium-lift and attack helicopters would be with the IAF and that arrangement "is the one which is and will continue to remain valid."

    The IAF chief said attack choppers had a dual role and were used not just for destroying tanks but also for taking down enemy aircraft, helicopters and Unmanned Aerial Vehicles.

    He said the fleet of medium-lift helicopters including the Mi-17 choppers "is and will continue to remain under the command and control of the IAF."

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  3. p2prada

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    Both PLA GF and the US Army have medium and heavy lift helicopters.

    So, that is not a valid point.
     
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    First of all, how come IAF can take objection for IA's demand, forget about "reject".

    Second, since when IAF got such long nose and they start using it in the finance ministry's job!

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  5. sandy_3126

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    Let IAF own the aircrafts, let it fly under command of army. Better synergy is needed between the two
     
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    IAF is afraid that it will lose it's importance if the Army Aviation Corps are strengthened.

    Look at the US Army Aviation.

    Equipment of the United States Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Cargo aircraft, attack helos, cargo helos, recon aircraft, and so much more.

    And here we have IAF saying that it won't let IA control helos.
     
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    Give IA and IAF each as many attack helicopters as they want. Everybody, including Boeing, will be happy. :)
     
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    Not so happy actually. Army is mainly buying attack helos from HAL.
     
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    That is not a option IAF...

    Army Should get...

    200 LCH
    30 Mi 17
    200 ALH Dhruv
    and some UAV's.. within the Next five years

    No need to buy it from other countries...just use our own products...
     
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  10. EzioAltaïr

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    Army is buying 114 LCH, 73 ALH (of which 32 have been delivered), and DRDO Nishant UAV (4 are in use).
     
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    This is concerning as this level of officer making such childish comments..

    How IAF use attack helo is not necessary same as IA using it, there is not point arguing if one have requirement or need for such role..

     
  12. p2prada

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    Turf wars. Its been an age old problem.

    Huh? How does that work?

    IAF wants to own and command the aircraft. It appears what IAF wants is to integrate itself in the Army's decision making process.

    IAF won't mind if the Army owns the Helicopters as long as the command is with the IAF.

    However, IMO, IAF should take the backseat in Army operations.

    The problem is IAF wants everything. Say IAF has a requirement for a 100 Attack helicopters and IA has a requirement for 200. IAF wants to control all 300.
     
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    IA is changing its entire way of fighting, ie, its doctrine. Due to this change, they are requesting helicopters for their own use.

    Integration is all fine, but the decision making is still faster when one group of decision makers is in charge of such important assets instead of two.

    Maybe due to the new doctrine changes, the rules made in 1986 may no longer apply.
     

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