IAF Satellite GSAT-7A Delayed by a Year

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  1. Galaxy

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    IAF Satellite GSAT-7A Delayed by a Year

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    New Delhi, Oct 3 (PTI) The Indian Air Force (IAF) today said there was a need for having a tri-service aerospace command to look after the military issues related to space.

    "Time has come that we look into the realm of an aerospace command. It would be a joint command where all the three services have to put their hands together,"IAF chief Air Chief Marshal N A K Browne said here.

    He was addressing the annual Air Force Day press conference here.

    All the three services have been talking about creating a joint command for management and creation of a space command to tackle military threats and utilising space-based capabilities.

    Asked about the status of the dedicated satellite programmes for the IAF, Browne said,"Both the GSAT-7 and GSAT-7A satellites are delayed by a year. That is a delay from the ISRO part."

    He said the payload and other systems to be launched with the satellite have been finalised.

    On the functioning of the IAF space cell, Browne said the Integrated Defence Staff has come up with a Defence Space Vision and was the point of contact for all the three services.

    http://www.indiareport.com/India-usa-uk-news/latest-news/1095999/NCR/1/20/1

     
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    Can't we give this to some private agency unless we have the luxary to wait for a year.
     
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    this delay is surely because of no gslv rockets left with isro and the delay of indigenous gslv motor because of failure in yesteryear launch.

    there is no point to launch this sat thru french company, its a matter of national security.
     
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    Six AWACS ? Retd ACM Naik said IAF has ordered only two extra phalcons!!
     
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    Military satellite delayed again by a year

    NEW DELHI: PM Manmohan Singh may wax eloquent that the military will be equipped with "all necessary means to meet all threats", including those "which go beyond conventional warfare", but no sense of urgency is being shown in the space arena.

    Indian armed forces are still to get their own dedicated surveillance and communication satellites despite several years of promises and plans, leave alone offensive space capabilities like ASAT (anti-satellite) weapons or advanced directed-energy laser weapons.

    Moreover, the government continues to keep the desperately-needed tri-Service Aerospace Command in cold storage, even though China has taken to the military exploitation of space, which includes ASAT capabilities, in a major way.

    Top defence officials admit the much-awaited launch of the naval communication and surveillance satellite, "Rohini", has been once again delayed by a year or so. Satellites for Army-IAF will only follow thereafter.

    Incidentally, during the naval commanders' conference in 2009, defence minister A K Antony had declared that the satellite to boost connectivity over sea would be launched in early-2010.

    Subsequently, Indian Space Research Organization ( ISRO) had revised the satellite's "launch window" to December 2010-March 2011. But to no avail.

    "There has been another big delay now...it won't be possible before end-2012 at the earliest," said an official, even as all top military commanders are currently in New Delhi for their annual brain-storming sessions.

    "The problem is the repeated failures of GSLV (geosynchronous satellite launch vehicle) and indigenous cryogenic engines (ISRO is now left with only one of the cryogenic engines imported from Russia)," he added.

    With no early launch in sight, talk is gaining ground that India should contemplate a foreign launcher for its GSAT-7 series of military satellites.

    The 2,330-kg naval satellite is supposed to have an around 1,000 nautical mile footprint over Indian Ocean, stretching from Red Sea to Malacca Strait, to ensure "network-centric operations" and "maritime domain awareness". The IAF-Army one, in turn, will have a similar footprint over land.

    The Defence Space Vision-2020 identified only intelligence, reconnaissance, surveillance, communication and navigation as the thrust areas in Phase-I till 2012. But even such capabilities, which include the critical necessity to keep 24x7 tabs on enemy troop movements, warships, airbases and missile silos as well as bolster surveillance over Indian airspace, will remain limited in the absence of dedicated military satellites.

    Interestingly, while India is publicly opposed to "militarization of space", the defence ministry last year had come out with a "Technology Perspective and Capability Roadmap" till 2025 which identified space warfare as a priority area, as was first reported by TOI.

    The roadmap, for instance, identified development of ASAT weapons "for electronic or physical destruction of satellites in both LEO (2,000-km altitude above earth's surface) and GEO-synchronous orbits" as a thrust area.

    Military satellite delayed again by a year - The Times of India
     
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    That should be the best option , earlier indian used france and russia to launch its satellites , if they is issue with GSLV let it be launched by a foreign country.

    Or am i getting it wrong here , regarding the issue of military satellites
     
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    Question is are they willing to put military satellites in orbit ?
     
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    The bigger question is will they risk a military satellite at the hands of another nation ? can that be the argument for them ?

    Either way its a loss for indian armed forces
     
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    I would not worry much about it because their satellites are much superior to ours.

    ISRO must surely succeed in next GSLV launch or else it ll further delay our aim to achieve network-centric warfare capability.
     
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    Definatly India would deploy them, as IAF already told they would deploy Space based Command..........
     
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    They = France , Russia.
     
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    This article is kind of deliberately misleading as is the hype over artilerry " shortage"

    Basically GOI wants to keep the enemy guessing

    Only the GSAT programme has been delayed

    I dont think that there is so much to worry about because PSLV programme is doing excellently

    Recently a geo synchronous satellite was launched as an emergency using PSLV for keeping the number of
    transponders intact because two GSAT s had failed in succession

    Our reconaissance facilities in the form of IRS satellites is intact

    RISAT is the immediate priority as it can see through even clouds and at night

    The Network centric capability has three parts ie satellites ; large number of AWACS aerostats radars and UAVs

    The military or the defence needs have been always been the priority for ISRO ever since the first IRS went up

    What has only been delayed is a dedicated satellite for the navy .But the navy has still got eyes and ears
     
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    In the summer exercises Vijayaee Bhava it was clearly declared that several ISR
    ( intelligence survelliance and reconaissance ) platforms of ISRO are being used

    At that precise moment Arunachal CM died in a helicopter crash and ISRO said it cant help in locating the
    wreckage because its assets are with the military

    As far as communication is concerned we can always have HEAVY geosynchronous satellites being launched
    by Arianespace and lighter ones can be done by PSLV
     
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    It was a 1300kg satellite that we put in GSO. Military satellites are 2300kg so how do you think PSLV can do the job ?

    Dont rely too much on Ariane, we do not yet know they ll agree to use their launch vehicles for our military satellites.
     
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    I Think a geo synchronous satellite launched by Ariane space will be used for telecom and TV industry
    and weather related work ie ALL commercial aspects

    PSLV can be used for the secure military communication network

    That is why that 1300 kg satellite was launched by a PSLV in a hurry .Just my guess
     
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    Yes, So far no military satellites has been lauched by them.

    Not possible, Military satellites weighs more. But we can launch spy satellites using PSLV.

    It was launched because we are short of transponders, so the decision to use PSLV.
     
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    4 we already have. 3 Phalcon and 1 Gulfstream-3. 2 ordered recently. Also, 3 DRDO AWCS will also be inducted by 2013.
     
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    G550 does not come under IAF even it exists.
     
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    It do exist and most likely it's operational under IAF only.

    But even if not part of IAF, then Then it would 3 Phalcon (already operational) + 3 DRDO AWACS which will be operational in next couple of years. 2 New phalcon was ordered recently and it won't come before 2015.
     

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