Hyderabadi Pizza

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  1. tarunraju

    tarunraju Moderator Moderator

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    Andhra Pradesh, Congress party's eternal guinea pig, could see yet another chapter in the ongoing Telangana-Seemandhra tussle over Hyderabad. Congress is faced with three electoral outcomes from the state:
    • Keep AP united: Out of the question, since the party already resolved against it. United AP would mean no votes in Telangana (not delivering the people their "promised land"), no votes in Seemandhra (punishment for the entire turmoil)
    • Divide state the way Telangana wants it: Desired electoral result in Telangana, no votes in Seemandhra, permanent ouster from the region (a la Tamil Nadu)
    • Divide the state the way Seemandhra wants it (Hyderabad in its totality as UT): Much fewer votes in Telangana, much fewer votes in Seemandhra, which would be less than what Congress hoped for, by biting the Telangana bullet
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    • Divide the state the way neither region wants it, but in a way that neither can complain: Carve a new Andhra district out of a select portion of Hyderabad, while the remaining portion remains with Telangana. The Andhra portion would be a district of the residual Andhra Pradesh, even if it isn't contiguous with it. The Andhra and Telangana portions of Hyderabad would be seamless (much like Panchkula of Haryana and Mohali of Punjab are seamless with Chandigarh.
    Sounds idiotic enough? If what I'm hearing from reasonably well-connected people is true, then this is going to be Congress party's "permanent solution" to the Hyderabad problem.

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    Yup.
     
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    dealwithit Regular Member

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    One should think that Hyderabad is in center of Telangana... If they do any thing silly ... Only erupts violence ..

    And Main thing Congress will loose Both in Telangan and Andhra Region...
     
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    What about revenue of hyderabad......... Who would share it....
     
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    tarunraju Moderator Moderator

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    Where you reside and where your firm is located, decide that.
     
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    Is it tasty,just wondering?
     
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    drkrn Senior Member Senior Member

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    bullshit...

    focal areas within another state...not gonna be fruitful
     
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    tarunraju Moderator Moderator

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    Does Seemandhra really care if your share of Hyderabad is not contiguous with your state, as long as it's well within Indian territory, and you're getting the revenue and "rightful share" you want...forever?
     
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    drkrn Senior Member Senior Member

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    ??????????

    no land connectivity makes it impractical.useless.how come you divide focal areas??basing upon populations?
    people will laugh at such steps.who asked for such on first part?
    neither parties will accept such proposal..

    revenues from civilian areas??what about industrial areas??
     
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    drkrn Senior Member Senior Member

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    as i always said from the beginning this problem can not be solved in few months,congress should be facing a real head ache.the new proposal seems naive and doesn't solve the current issues.
    the issue is never about having hyderabad alone but also the revenue generated from the city.

    why did nizam has to surrender and no country could help him,its land locked.why would someone show keen interest in a landlocked place?
    useless proposal if you ask

    to my knowledge,the three proposals said by home minister doesn't have this item.

    latest developments..

    center has decided to invest massive amount in it sector which will directly give jobs to 15 lakh people..indirect 60 lakh
    Cabinet nod for IT investment region in Hyderabad - The Times of India


    revenue generated to state...............30000crores?????

    economic interests are vital for survival of state
     
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    drkrn Senior Member Senior Member

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    my sources said that congress has already taken a decision,but definitely not this as you mentioned.
    am waiting when they are going to announce, that should be a shock to both regions mainly to TG
     
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    as always expected due pressures from both sides congress is unable to fast track its decision.adding to the fears of trs regarding hyderabad status congresses tactical silence should be killing kcr by now

    a new angle has opened into current show.sangh parivar which till now is inert wanted to show consolidation to seemandhra region and taking necessary steps to ensure full fledged benefits reach both regions.

    now eager to see how they gonna influence bjp for such policies.
    no doubt the bill can't be kept in the parliament atleast till 5 state elections(my expectation) giving ample time for sangh to pressure bjp to look into seemandhra regions problems,sure another head ache for congress...

    lets see whats going to happen.
     
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    Any thing that kills KCR in pollitical point is Congress giving T state as announced ..

    That means He should merge whole TRS in congress... If Congress made any Clause on Hyderabad.. TRS will go to elections alone.. And fight for Hyd

    T region has most by united AP in terms of Water. If State is separated from first. It has lot surplus revenues would construct well dams than present ones which only helps andhra region..

    One thing Congress has bit the T bullet.. for coming elections and Paid the price in both regions..

    If Hyderabad revenue is divided it would be blow for congress in T region as well in Andhra region..
    And without hyd revenue T state wont develop as it is way backward than Andhra region. in terms of education and everything,,,,
    Then packages should be announce for both states...
     
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    who said that giving T state with hyderabad kills kcr.do you really think he is gonna merge his party in congress.he is pro bjp,so are majority of his cadre,thats what bjp is interested in telangana.

    the stance of kcr not merging trs in congress should have made congress think about him once more.

    as i always said IRRESPECTIVE OF RESOURCES T REGION HAS A LIMITED SCOPE FOR DEVELOPMENT OF NEW DAMS.a dam cannot be constructed just at the place you want it to be.probably you can increase the height of existing ones.thats why even politicians are keeping
    mum regarding this point,they know it well.

    FYI as a rule the lower states always receive more water than upper states(migulu jalalu) ,the same thing what AP enjoyed over maharashtra,pakistan enjoyed over india.the problem is will anyone play by the rule book??

    with out hyderabad in full the concept and fight for a separate state is not economical for T people

    what kind of packages would you expect?a mere 300000 crore to develop a state capital?or even less who knows..
     
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    This has resulted in Congress' exodus from Andhra Politics in future. Good.

    Nowadays everything Congressis do, spells their doom even faster. :D
     
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    Then why crying for water ....... If T region is bifurcated .. Why andhra region Politicians say that "there will be no water for andhra region"

    Means that they T region will use its share of water more effectively ... By diverting water to small dams .. which not happened in united AP.
     
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    No one will support that... That is the stupidest idea ever....

    Oh god, Give some brain to congress fellows........
     
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    small logic,when does water flow down??when it is released from above.
    water will be released only when dams reach a critical level ,respective levels for respective regions.you can recollect n.kiran kumar reddy saying rayalaseema gets water from nagarjunasagar only when it crosses 780 feet height,but usually the average height reached is around 750 feet only,leaving only few period of time for them to get water.

    suppose in periods of summer,the water levels already low, the current united AP govt releases water for crops and drinking of water downstream compromising hydroelectric power(you may cross check).if TG forms a good leader will have to address his region first,water flow will obviously decrease

    no need to remind you that the already damaged world environment,and polar meltings has made climate unpredictable leads to elninos or alninos,which increased in recent years all around the globe causing frequent famines.

    today water is a can't be precious resource which can't be forsaken

    as you said "diversion" of water to small dams...from where to where?do you want to construct small dams over a river tributary of some collection points of water from a big river to another place.

    first one is a very good option,i wish all around the country follows this,but i am not sure why even after these many years ,not many countries seem interested in such projects.even environmentalists claim that few small dams are better over large dams(controversies do exist)

    if you want to construct over tributaries,there are no much river tributaries in TG region AFAIK

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    this is godavari river course.you see major tributaries are either before TG or after TG.

    even this is for krishna

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    look at tributary bhima river of krishna,a major one.
    even koyna is same.
    but tungabhadra joins krishna at alampur,mahaboobnagar.

    paleru and musi rivers run in TG, but i doubt their current potential for a dam.


    in my opinion the water wars started even before formation of AP.some areas from nizam state were added into karnataka and maharashtra,which i doubt to be water rich areas.

    any senior members could help.



    hope i clarified your doubts

    if you can remember my earlier posts to you,i said if TG separates major water loss can occur from krishna basin
     
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    situations seem so..
     
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    Babu Rayalaseema will never get water from Nagarguna sagar....

    It will get from Srisailam Head regulator and Jurala....

    Please get your facts straight
     

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