How would China manage three fronts?

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  1. Yusuf

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    A major hostility breaks out in the Korean peninsula. The North and South are at it. The US presence there is large. We know that Chinas best is positioned near the Koreas and it faces a grim situation during thst war there.

    Seeing the Chinese involved in Korea, India sees it as the time to take back lost territory and attacks those areas. Taiwan sees this opportunity as the right time to declare independence.

    All hypothetical, but how would the Chinese face up these three fronts?
     
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  3. Payeng

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    You mean Hong Kong of Taiwan ? Taiwan (RoC) is already an independent state.

    A better discussion would be US without.
     
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    What is the scenario North Korea against PRC or North Korea against South Korea?

    North Korea with PRC versus South Korea without US help is a gone case for South Korea, that would mean no advantage for India.

    North Korea with PRC versus South Korea with US help will be mobilisation of the 7th fleet plus involvement of Japan or atleast its bases operate by the US. RoC being involved should atleast target spratly islands and Shanghai, then India can target Chendgu and lanzhou military facilities, further Sanghai if missiles are available.

    but it will result into a 5 vs 2 scenario, excluding RoC in the war, Sanya base in spratly islands would be left untouched where PRC must have placed some of its SSBN and if they are fitted with nuke warheads, the candle will glow brighter before it fades away.
     
  5. oliveryty

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    As the Marxist Philosophy teaches, focus on the most important first.:mornin:

    india's attack could go no further beyond himalaya, can you?

    with himalaya and tibet between the two, india's assault would not be the sword to the heart, so we can leave it alone for a while

    Then concentrate most land forces defending korea, and with U-boats trap Taiwan. cut the Taiwan strait with massive water mines would be a good idea.

    missiles could be preoared for any air invasion. nuclear weaons prepared for US or japan's involvement

    the above would be the worst situation.

    Taiwan will be less and less likely to declare independence, Taiwanese value money more than ideology, they are not fools.

    N korea military forces would be everything than nothing, they can defend themselves too

    once the two front settled down, china can concentrate all the force for an attack on india invasion forces.

    The steepness iof the mountains could help china's operation downwards

    anyway, guns are always prepared for desperate dogs.
     
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    Putting in my two cents..it is highly unlikely that Taiwan will declare independence. Their current ruling party, KMT, is against declaring outright independence. Most of the people in Taiwan are for maintaining the current de facto situation.
     
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    Isn't Taiwan a sovereign republic?
     
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    badguy2000 Respected Member Senior Member

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    your hypothetical will not happen at all.

    if the war were to break out between two Koreas, PRC would not help N.korea at all.

    On the contary,once N.korea were not able to stop the advance north of yankee's troops,PRC would send troops to occupy N.korea , in order to prevent USA troops to step on the land of N.korea.


    as for Taiwan, the mentality of Taiwanese has change much today ,because of the close economical and cultural connection with mainland china. the tide of the taiwan Indpendence campaign has passed ..But you Indian seem not to are very abtuse to such change.
     
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    Well, I can see a problem right there. Taiwan would actually side with the PRC against India.

    But be that as it may, the PLA is obligated to mount an invasion of Taiwan proper no matter what the costs. It is a CCP Mandate and a tenet to which their entire foundation as a ruling power, that of the unification of China, rests. Lose that and they lose their own Mandate to rule.

    There would be no action on the Korean penisula except sealing the border. Yeah, refugees would pour through but it's Seoul's dime to feed and house those people, no longer China's problem.

    India would be an afterthought. Just like the Cold War, the south is not going to dictate the survival of the PRC. The PLA would most likely fight a holding action while their attention is on Taiwan.
     
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    taiwan's constitution insist that ROC has the sovereign of the whole mainland china and outer Mongolia.
     
  11. Yusuf

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    Colonel,
    You don't see the PLA come out in support of NK in the face of SK and US advance inside NK?
     
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    *** sigh *** Yusuf, your scenario is nowhere near realistic. Two countries combined are keeping North Korea alive. It takes these two countries together to keep the Kims in power. One of them is China, as you might have guessed. The other, as it may now surprise you, is South Korea.

    The reasonning is obvious. Both countries want to keep North Koreans in North Korea. However, if either country chooses, North Korea would come down like a house of cards without China nor South Korea firing a single shot.

    For China, it's obvious, stop shipping free rice and electricity. For Seoul, stop the banking system from shipping monies north from Korean families in the south.

    Both these actions by themselves alone would crash North Korea without one soldier dying.

    The question is, where would the North Koreans go? The most obvious answer is China since the DMZ got minefields up the ying yang but how long can Seoul keep the minefields alive if China closes her borders?

    That question, Seoul does not want to answer. Seoul don't care if North Koreans go north but knows full well the Chinese can turn the direction south.

    Sorry, but your scenario does not take into account the reality of the Korean pennisula.
     
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    Atleast China won't be alone in the west side. Pakistan will definitely side with China. On Korea side North will be on China side. So actually in this dooms day scenario China has to fight one front
     
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    paksitan under usa belly will never take action on her own but wait for signal from her guardian but since it is china,pakistan wont be playing in this scenario
     
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    Sir, South Korea gives humanitarian aids to North, but North Korea never agree with the government, when ever they have to address Seoul they address as Puppet government they don't seems to care for the aid received. A hostile North Korea supported by PRC is a possible option, if the US administration take retaliatory measures for any further misadventure by Kim Yong and since Seoul is an ally by an treaty, there might be a situation like North Korea with China and US with South Korea type of a face off, I don't think PRC would be comfortable with US/South Korea invading North Korea.

    A further Long range missile test or exploding a thermonuclear device may ignite such a situation.
     
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    I think in such a scenario PRC wont fight only in one front but neither India :wink:.
     
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    China would like nothing better, to the point of inviting the US stay after a united Korea has been achievd.

    Further missile tests maybe but nuke tests are out of the question. The last two nukes are duds and the Chinese thinks the 2nd test have been faked.
     
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    I believe invading North Korea would ultimately result in fall of Kim Yong administration resulting an united Korea, further massive refugees problem for PRC.
     
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    Colonel,
    from what I can make of your post, a war between the north ans south looks unlikely. But if that was the case, why both sides are on high alert? We have had two mad men ruling for decades and are not rational. They sulk on a slightest pretext. They conduct missile test on slightest crticism. We never know when they will attack the south on a flimsy reason.
     
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    Considering Pakistan's economy , us pressure , taliban it won't be able to help china. :2guns::2guns:
     
  21. oliveryty

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    then all of you can benefit from that?

    how clever you are! just do it, let's watch
     

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