How to fight Islam & Christianity in India??

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  1. Science Singh

    Science Singh Regular Member

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    Sanatan Dharma is the best product in religious & spiritual market, at least in comparison to abrahamic desert cults, yet we are lagging, reasons are many from historical, economic, long invasions, caste divisions,hindu impotence,pathetic commies congress etc

    If you read theological books, history etc of islam & christianity, you will realize they are not spiritual religions at all, they are just politics, expansionism, mind control, tribalism, using extreme fear of hell and incentive of eternal heaven to control and organize people which pushes normal people to become even suicide bombers. They may have some spiritual people like sufis, selfless missionaries etc but they are just "good cop" department in larger picture of expansionism, they serves the same purpose but by different means.

    Islam is superior to Sanatan dharma in terms of creating loyalty, violence, cohesiveness, expansionism, creating brainwashed zombies whose whole life purpose becomes to spread islam by any and every means ie initially population dawah marriage sufis and than eventually rape coercion threats violence pillaging destroying killing etc.

    A better analogy-- Abrahamic religions are like Carnivorous animals & Eastern/Dharmic religions are Herbivorous, Its in their nature to eat you, you cannot survive with a defensive "all religions are same/ "all animals are same" strategy.
    Do you know elephants never let lions near them specially when they have a baby elephant, they on their own start attacking lions which forces lions to leave.

    I think Sanatanis need to adopt this strategy, no defensive, but offensive attitude. this ignorant bullshit of "all religions are same","mazhab nahi sikhata aapas mein bair rakhna", "ahinsa parmo dharma" needs to end.
    India is suffering from these filthy abrahamic supremacist ideologies from last 1000 years and had paid huge price by loosing its territory population knowledge progress and civilization itself.

    Pakistan,kashmir,west bengal,kerala,northeast are just symptoms or effect of filth which has penetrated in all parts of our civilization, main cause is islam and xianity, We may try to do band-aid solutions to these problems but they will never work in long term, islamic and christian domination of india or is inevitable if we don't get our act together.

    We need massive scale ghar wapsi which will come only when hindus proudly own their culture civilization dharma etc, and attack abrahamic religions ferociously on every front, if we succeed in this, we will surely become a superpower by 2075 or we will become a dysfunctional limp nation waiting to be divided again on religious caste lines.. Intellectual arguments against Islam and Xianity need to be given to the lowest common denominator of masses.Once that is achieved “Ghar Wapsi” of non sanatanis and consolidation of sanatanis is a natural consequence.

    A force of 10000+ hindu missionaries, atheists,agnostics,debaters,writers,thinkers,gurus,sanyasis,sanatanis,dharma pracharaks, sceptics etc is needed who should devote their entire lives to this cause and normal hindus should support them by whatever means they can.

    Imagine every hindu asking muslims without fear, why muhammad f***d a 9 year old girl? why muhammad had sex slaves?, do women will also get 72 male virgins in heaven?, why everything which is haram in this life will become abundant in afterlife? why family planning is haram? why cant hindus christians create temples in islamic countries?, why they want to kill homosexuals lgbt apostates?, why can't we draw muhammad?, why you vote when democracy is haram?, why muslims do not have any contribution in science and tech? why muslims are most backward? why they marry their sisters?, why global average muslim iq is 80?

    Imagine hindus claiming unapologetically that, Sanatan Dharma” is far more superior than Islam & Christianity, from theological historical spiritual perspectives & abrahamic religions are inherently bigoted towards others.That’s why we as Sanatanis want to invite all muslims and xians to accept superior Sanatan Dharma. Basically making the same claim as they make to us.

    Today humanity is at the cusp of becoming a type 1 civilization with artificial intelligence,machine learning,automation, universal 4g internet, free education, abundant food, terraforming other planets, internet of things,vertical farming etc and we sanatanis can't get our house in order even on basic things. Chinese are the most pragmatic people today and you will see results in next 30-50 years and if we fails to change we are f***ed.

    If we do not solve this problem with debates, talks, janjagriti, ghar wapsi,non violent expansionism etc we will be forced to solve it with sword and blood like kashmir pakistan palestine etc.
    There is no such thing as "Hindu Terror" today but it will be if things don't change.

    Do any of you think my assesment of whole situation is wrong? If yes please explain why?
    Do you have any better solutions, feel free to criticize rectify modify strategize discuss etc ?

    We all know the problem, Please discuss the solutions and action plans



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    m not a religious person but according to me the mainstream hinduism is a very unattractive religion. Hindus needs to use arya samaj & buddhism to convert abrahmics into these 2 sects.

    Secondly get rid of RSS, they are way old school in today's time
     
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  4. Science Singh

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    How mainstream hinduism is unattractive?,pls explain

    Its the most colourful religion with many flavours,festivals,temples etc, it may not generate fanatic loyalty cohesiveness monolithism like islam but it surely is more attractive than black and white crude islam and philosophicaly bankrupt christianity.

    Samkhya, Yoga, Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Mimamsa and Vedanta. are Astika schools,
    Nāstika Indian philosophies include Buddhism, Jainism, Cārvāka, Ājīvika,

    and many other small sects like arya samaj,rkm,sikhs etc

    If nothing satisfies you , you can establish your own school of thought.you don't get this freedom in abrahamic religions.

    Do you know buddhism jainism believe in Reincarnation Karma Moksha etc, even when they are atheist school of thought, even charvaks believed in reincarnation.

    Sanatan Dharma has all flavours to satisfy all type of human temperaments, we lack in branding marketing,
    abrahamics own shitty products yet see their aggresive confident marketing.

    when a naive layman see them aggresively preaching their religion with confidence and sanatanis being apologetic about everything, psychologically it feels they own a better product, thats why you see many people converting to islam and christianity.

    Why do u think arya samaj and buddhism will be attractive to abrahamics?, is it because of idol worship?
     
  5. Science Singh

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    Get rid of rss!!!!! Are you sure you want to do that??

    They are the only organization which worked selflessly for years even after facing utter humiliation even form hindus.

    Rss has its small flaws,but even Krishna Ram Shiva had flaws.

    They are not a organization driven by a book or dogma who refuse to change, their goal is prosperous superpower india and they are willing to change bend for that.

    Which old school thoughts of rss bother u? Pls explain
     
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    Simple. Enact Uniform Civil Law, get rid of MPLB and Hindu Marriage Act. Stop giving "Hindi Feature Film" certification to Urdu movies.
     
  7. Science Singh

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    I agree with ucc implementation, but remember even today 95% muslims do not have multiple wives but that doesnt stop them from producing 3-5 children, even in educated muslims with one wife their tfr (fertility rate) will be higher than hindus which will result in demographic power in a democracy in next 25-100 years in different parts of india.

    as long as islam survives in india, we are endangered, we can attack its tentacles but that will only delay the problem little bit. permanent solution is to attack the core of their religion and massive scale ghar wapsi. ie killing islam itself as a discredited fascist totalitarian ideology in the dusbins of history.

    "Stop giving "Hindi Feature Film" certification to Urdu movies" ,

    Its again attacking a small symptom instead the core of problem.
     
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    We should block the foreign fundings to missionaries of churches (from America, Australia etc) and mosques (from Arab countries).
     
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    And still we survived as an oldest cultural religious force (1 billion + Hindus) of the world but why ?


    - Poet Iqbal (3rd generation Hindu Convert) lamented the fact that -

    "Jo Jihad ka caravan Hijaj (Arab) se chala voh Akar Ganga par Ruka"


    In between, it devoured many great Non Muslaman civilizations starting from Persians and to the west the Egyptians. And now they are Muslaman subservient to Macca.

    1. First the failures of Indians, as to why we fail against the onslaught of Islam.

    Lack of science, too much ritualism, lack of social cohesion, corrupted scripture, lack of cavalry etc etc

    Though we were Hindus but we never put up a united fight, Rajputs fought with Rajputs, Gujjar with Gujjar and Maratha with Maratha.


    This is certainly not the case in 2016.

    2. Secondly till 6 AD we were the manufacturing powerhouse of the world just like China today, our science was so advance that till the Islamic Golden age even Muslaman scholars lived here for years.


    Case in Point - Abu Mashir Al Balkhi who lived in Varanasi for 10 years.


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    The last person who symbolize true Hinduism was Guru Gobind Singh. He gave away all the ills of Hinduism.

    The fake cults and rituals such as Radha Cult and Vegetarianism etc which made us warring Aryans weak. His followers including women were warriors and within few years after his death, Hindus established their own rule in Punjab and Jammu Kashmir including territories beyond Laddakh.
     
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  11. Science Singh

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    Absolutely Spot on, this should have been the first step of modi government but in this interconnected global world a government needs to balance many things ie geopolitics relations fdi image softpower etc and i think there are some compulsions why modi is not going full throttle against them. But if huge push comes from grassroots, he won't have much option
     
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    This is true.


    Secondly, are you RSS member ?
     
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    Disagree with your analogy.
    Hindu/Sanatan Dharma has created more fighters and warriors than Izzlam ever has or will.
    Please read Srimad Bhagavat Gita if you have not already. You will be able to see what Dharmiks have been asked to unleash when the just cause comes.
    Only half truth. Something taken out of context and twisted into an opposing meaning.

    In Bhagavat Gita Lord Krishna tell Arjuna
    अथ चेत्त्वमिमं धर्म्यं संग्रामं न करिष्यसि
    ततः स्वधर्मं कीर्तिं च हित्वा पापमवाप्स्यसि

    If, however, you do not fight this religious war, then you will certainly incur sins for neglecting your duties and thus lose your reputation as a fighter.

    So you see, all the answers you seek are already given. Whatever it is that you want to achieve in life, personal, political or social, everything is encoded inside this text.
    If we have to fight this Dharmayuddh against the Abrahamics, first we must understand what is Dharm.
     
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    Steps:
    1. Stop casteism and own all hindus as equal.
    2. Unity is strength, lets unite and fight unitedly.
     
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  15. Science Singh

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    No, i am not, however in future i might be

    I in no way doubt the potency virility of our civilization, i know we are the only civilization which survived islamic n christian attack of 1000 years,

    u misunderstood me, i completely agree with u, u can imagine our current hindu samaj as arjun in kurukshetra who is refusing to fight, and i am asking u all how we can create countless krishnas who can raise this sleeping society,

    I knew the full shloka from when i was 10 years old, the point is 99% hindus don't know that because of bullshit peddled by duratma gandhi, they just know ahinsa parmo dharma, now again the same question how do we educate them? and the ways which i proposed in my post do u agree with them,

    Dharma is a fluid subjective thing in hindu philosophy, even bhisma pitamah was following his own subjective dharma even when he was fighting against a dharmic side.

    i have read almost all sanatan scriptures and philosophies. if we engage in semantics, it will become a futile exercise.

    i again want to make it clear, this post is less about why we lost , why we lagged, we all know that,

    What concrete steps,action plans we can take now to make our civilization great again?
     
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    @Science Singh yes, then you are asking the right question.
    How do we fight Islam and Christianity in India.
    Well, there is a short and easy way. Although this path would lead to unnecessary blood letting and killing of many people who are probably on our side to begin with. So I will forgo that.

    Then, what remains is the tough way to fight Islam and Christianity.
    An approach can be to pit one against the other. Like the British did for Hindus and Muslims. Let them fight it out. Pit Muslims against Christians. Muslims of varying beliefs against themselves. Pit Shias against Sunnis. Pit Protestants against Catholics.
    Let them fight it out on the streets and decrease their numbers themselves. We will be supporting one side for a decade, the other for another and so on and so forth unless they themselves become a true minority. After that it will be only a matter of legislation till their legal existence is deemed null void and they themselves see their weakness and perform Ghar Wapsi.
    In the meantime, all 'charity' to Muslims and Christians exclusively should be cut and put into a common pool. Just like the wealth of Hindu temples legally belong to Bharat and not Hindus, in the same way, funds received in the name of Izzlam and Christianity should be for all.
    After that, make conversion to Abrahamic religion null and void in the eyes of law. A person born with one religion shouldn't be able to change it unless they are converting into a Dharmik religion.

    These are some less violent approaches which might work. If all else fails, well, you know what happened in the medival times. ;)
     
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    Actually we were never non violent, this is a conspiracy by Libtards and Timid Gandhians who claim that Indians are Non violent.

    Whenever our territorial limits reached in far off lands, it was only because of sword. Take the example of Mauryans, Shungas/ Satvahanas, Royal Guptas, Harshavardhan, Marathas, Dogras and Sikhs etc

    In the south Cholas conquered South East Asia and Lanka with sword and not with Buddhism or Dharmic religion.


    If it was up to us, we would've sold those 93,000 Pakis as Slaves after taking their women as our comfort women or re converted them into Hinduism.

    This is what our ancestors did with Muslaman Chiefs of Hunzas and Gilgit Baltistan after 1820 - 1890.


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    That's why they still piss blood by hearing our ancestors name. Check this thread.








    http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...-crushing-of-sudhan-musalman-rebellion.74657/
     
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    n 1837, Raja Gulab Singh of Jammu was entrusted by Maharaja Ranjit Singh to suppress the revolt of the Yousafzai tribe which formed the biggest proportion of Pashtun tribes. He offered one rupee for the head of every Yousafzai man brought to his feet. He made Kahuta his headquarters and hunted for Muslim Pashtun tribes. He had some of the women spared, but others were kept for Raja Gulab Singh's harem and the rest were sold as slaves in Lahore and Jammu. It was reported that this expedition resulted in the loss of tens of thousands of Pashtun rebels and thousands of women were sold into slavery.[26] In 1863 the Dogra ruler Maharaja Ranbir Singh ordered a major invasion of the frontier areas of Yasin and Hunza to punish Muslim rebels. 3,000 troops were commanded by General Hooshiara Singh who invaded the frontier. The Dogras took all men as prisoners and many Dogra soldiers entered the back portion of the Mandoori Hill which was full of Yasini and Hunza women and their children. Those women who were injured but not dead were burnt alive and approximately 2000 Yasin villagers were killed overall. About 5,000 Yasinis were taken back to Srinagar for forced labor and many of their surviving women were included either in the harems or in the zenanas of Dogra Soldiers




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    A chauhan "अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथैव च: l" Senior Member

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    Islam , Christianity and Communists have done lots of misdeeds in the past and hell bent on repeating the same, we could educate the people about them and their nexus, expose them and minimize their threat.
     
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    There is proverb "If u want to kill a tree kill the people who flourish's it with water and nutrients" aka missionaries,commies,liberal bastards,presstitutes etc
     

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