How to defeat America?

[Yusuf]

why to defeat usa? very good question.

look usa can attack any country if the attack benefits usa. india can be its enemy if usa thinks fit. there is no faith on the stance of usa. today usa is with india, tomorrow it will be with pakistan. we should not forget that usa helped pakistan in spreading terrorism before 9/11.how could we trust such a dubious country. it can do anything it wants. in future there may be a need to fight against usa. we must know america's weakness at all cost.

The US has been steadfast friend of Japan, Korea, Brits, Germans etc.

The only one it has actually used or so called flip flops is the Pakis.

 

[Arnab Banerjee]

well lets answer this question :

how could you defeat the CIA and its covert activities? can our RAW defeat CIA?

 

[Singh]

well lets answer this question :

how could you defeat the CIA and its covert activities? can our RAW defeat CIA?

they can't "defeat" maybe outfox them a few times.

 

[Arnab Banerjee]

The US has been steadfast friend of Japan, Korea, Brits, Germans etc.

The only one it has actually used or so called flip flops is the Pakis.

yes and who is pakistan? our enemy. the friend of our enemy is our enemy too. do you agree?

 

[Cliff@sea]

i think instead of Justifying why we actually need to defeat America . . .
(for which b t w . . .i think there's no real Justification )

Lets just consider OT a theoretical exercise ...and get on with this thread . . .
that is . . .if some one wants to . .

 

[Arnab Banerjee]

i think instead of Justifying why we actually need to defeat America . . .
(for which b t w . . .i think there's no real Justification )

Lets just consider OT a theoretical exercise ...and get on with this thread . . .
that is . . .if some one wants to . .

thanks. so how to defeat america?

as for insurgencies caused by CIA we have to move our counter insurgency operations, RAW etc. for that we have to suspect the americans living in india and anybody associated with them.

as for war tactics, let us imagine a situation. if america today attacks india how they will do?

first they will befriend pakistan and china and insists that pakistan and china should move first. as it is the policy of america to use ally armies to do their job without using american army.don't trust china. china is always eager to get american help. besides in politics only constant thing is interest.

if we survive the combined attack of china and pakistan which is quite unusual thing, then will come the NATO army.america will always be behind the veil.how a single country india can defeat 5 or 6 countrie's combined army? we have no such air power nor missile power.

we must find the weak point of america. everything has its strength and weakness. what is the weakness of america? this question will be the answer to our main question: how to defeat america?

 

[Bhadra]

The origin of the idea "defeating USA" is very ambiguous, confusing and ill intentioned. Not sufficient even for trolling.

 

[Bhadra]

USA is master of fourth wave technologies and master of knowledge domain. Do well, carry out your research, inventions, lead in technologies, be master of financial domain, IT, ITS, Space and Media. Outperform USA in economic and technological growth. Make India centre of the world.

That is the way to defeat USA and not by bull crap fight. Not by missiles but by technologies that make their missiles redundant. Can you do that?

 

[Ray]

The issue of defeating the US is way over the top, if one has studied the modes that are adopted to defeat any nation.

What I think the OP is aiming at is how the US is, should we say, 'riding roughshod' over the rest of the world and 'getting away' and the ways one could curb that.

By why this angst and Schadenfreude?

 

[Arnab Banerjee]

The issue of defeating the US is way over the top, if one has studied the modes that are adopted to defeat any nation.

What I think the OP is aiming at is how the US is, should we say, 'riding roughshod' over the rest of the world and 'getting away' and the ways one could curb that.

By why this angst and Schadenfreude?

last night i tried to find out weakness of america. i found 3 weakness. i am now telling you what they are and how to exploit them:

the 3 weakness are:

1] consumer confidence: the confidence of americans to buy, shop, spend etc.


2] consumer conscience: the justification of buying a goods.


3] identity crisis of america as a whole. mission is not defined.

now how to exploit them:

The net result of the dependence on consumer confidence, plus the lack of consumer conscience, is that America is subject to manipulation by powerful corporate exploiters. so if corporate india can have a powerful lobby in the us, then we can also manipulate america.

the third point i.e. identity crisis has immense importance. it means that america is like a mad horse who does not know what it is and where to go. it means that anybody pretending to be friend of america can misguide america. by misguiding america, one can destroy it with its own accord.it is like you don't know where to go. i pretending to be your friend sent you to hell. this is the way we can destroy america.

we cannot destroy it in war because in battleground america is very strong. that's why the muslim terrorists cannot defeat america. but we can defeat america in war of ideas. by misguiding it anyone can destroy it. for that we must be a corporate power inside america as well as a friend-philosopher-guide kind of thing. when acquire this status we can mislead america to its own destruction.thus we can defeat america.

 

[no smoking]

Defeating american? Why?
Militarily, no one is interested in having a war with a top nuclear power which also posesses a global navy force. Maybe, none of you noticed that usa military power is the key of today's economic framework. Unless someone wants to destroy it, defeating USA in battlefield won't bring anything to anybody.
Economically, USA is in such an unic position-the top of industry chain, no one is its competitor. Only a few countries such as Japan, German and French, are competing against it in only few fields. But there is none can challenge it in full scale. Since you are not competing with it, how can you defeat it?

So, there is no country is trying to defeat american.

 

[amoy]

yes and who is pakistan? our enemy. the friend of our enemy is our enemy too. do you agree?

to borrow somebody's line "The friend of our enemy is our FRIEND".

To "defeat" America? Let me do my trolling today: The answer lies in pulling down US DOLLAR from its dominance in the global economy. Even those rivals of America yearn for USD to keep their economy afloat (like Iran, and N. Korea), and allies being tied up to USD (like Saudi living on petrol dollars) and being fleeced on a regular basis :thumb:. Any currencies that're ever close to posing a challenge to USD haven't fared well somehow, first JPY now EURO (lots of conspiracy theories going around). Furthermore, America, thanks to USD's unique position, is able to finance its all-round supremacy despite "doom and gloom" of its economy with a mountain high deficit.

That being said, IMO, contrary to many's assumption that China wants US to go down the drain, China prefers a thriving America. Taoism "Yin and Yang" theory has explained this perfectly - Two seemingly opposing forces are interconnected and interdependent, and give rise to each other.

 

[asianobserve]

In other words China just wants to fill the void left by the collapse of the USSR. You can see it in the alliances it is forming...

 

[Bhadra]

to borrow somebody's line "The friend of our enemy is our FRIEND".

To "defeat" America? Let me do my trolling today: The answer lies in pulling down US DOLLAR from its dominance in the global economy. Even those rivals of America yearn for USD to keep their economy afloat (like Iran, and N. Korea), and allies being tied up to USD (like Saudi living on petrol dollars) and being fleeced on a regular basis :thumb:. Any currencies that're ever close to posing a challenge to USD haven't fared well somehow, first JPY now EURO (lots of conspiracy theories going around). Furthermore, America, thanks to USD's unique position, is able to finance its all-round supremacy despite "doom and gloom" of its economy with a mountain high deficit.

That being said, IMO, contrary to many's assumption that China wants US to go down the drain, China prefers a thriving America. Taoism "Yin and Yang" theory has explained this perfectly - Two seemingly opposing forces are interconnected and interdependent, and give rise to each other.

So China wish to occupy the space vacated by erstwhile USSR in being the "yin - yang" to USA. The theory is that if USA and China are 'Yin Yang", USA will stabilise (so will China). OK, then all who wish USA defeated should pull down China so that "yin - yang" is not formed.

Pull the Chinese down and defeat USA. Simple. This Chinese wants a bipolar world where in only China shares the loot with Americans. Globe is devided between the CCP and Uncle Sam. Day dreaming.

 

[ice berg]

USSR was a military powerhouse. Chinas rise was based on her economy. We are already moving towards a bipolar world.

It is all about economy.

 

[Bhadra]

By 2030, China would be country of old people and its economy would be on down slide. American would be young and going up the graph.

Which economy are you talking about. That same economy made up on suppression of labour would not sustain.

 

[Arnab Banerjee]

but what if USA suddenly attacks india? no one knows what is going on in future? and if usa is undefeatable then how come some countries like china, japan, north korea, germany are competing with it? there must be some loophole in their part using which these country are competing. why can't india?

how come 9/11 happened if the security of america is undefeatable in world? there must be some loophole friends.

besides usa fought wars against those countries which have no capability or infrastructure for war e.g. afganistan, iraq, iran etc.. secondly usa never attack singularly. as i said earlier, usa attack in groups along with NATO countries. the victory of such a "war" belongs to the group and not to a single member of the group called america.

in afganistan war america solely depend on northern alliance of pakistan. the defeat of taliban are sole credit of northern alliance and not america. in the war against soviet in afganistan, america depends on mujahidins of afganistan.these mujahidins defeated soviets. amrica got the credit. credit was given by american media. are we overvaluing america?

besides friends dig a little deeper. all the news of america's superiority we have heard are nothing but news spread by the media funded by america itself. we saw clippings of war created by the same american media. we have never experienced power of america with our eyes. did we? how true are those news when they are compared with the hard facts of 9/11? isn't america's power an ultimate propaganda?

in libiya and arab world, CIA raise a coup to overthrow the govt. can't we raise a coup to overthrow any govt.? is it a very big job? in afgan and soviet war america used other countries army to do their job. we also have done that. in bangladesh war, indira gandhi used bangladesi militia to kill pakistani soldier in bangladesh much like the same way usa used northern alliance to defeat taliban. we can do the same job usa can do.

so friends i think we are overvaluing usa. like all other countries usa also has its weakness. nobody in this world is only strength and no weakness. it is another fault of your thinking.

 

[Oracle]

but what if USA suddenly attacks india? no one knows what is going on in future? and if usa is undefeatable then how come some countries like china, japan, north korea, germany are competing with it? there must be some loophole in their part using which these country are competing. why can't india?

how come 9/11 happened if the security of america is undefeatable in world? there must be some loophole friends.

besides usa fought wars against those countries which have no capability or infrastructure for war e.g. afganistan, iraq, iran etc.. secondly usa never attack singularly. as i said earlier, usa attack in groups along with NATO countries. the victory of such a "war" belongs to the group and not to a single member of the group called america.

in afganistan war america solely depend on northern alliance of pakistan. the defeat of taliban are sole credit of northern alliance and not america. in the war against soviet in afganistan, america depends on mujahidins of afganistan.these mujahidins defeated soviets. amrica got the credit. credit was given by american media. are we overvaluing america?

besides friends dig a little deeper. all the news of america's superiority we have heard are nothing but news spread by the media funded by america itself. we saw clippings of war created by the same american media. we have never experienced power of america with our eyes. did we? how true are those news when they are compared with the hard facts of 9/11? isn't america's power an ultimate propaganda?

in libiya and arab world, CIA raise a coup to overthrow the govt. can't we raise a coup to overthrow any govt.? is it a very big job? in afgan and soviet war america used other countries army to do their job. we also have done that. in bangladesh war, indira gandhi used bangladesi militia to kill pakistani soldier in bangladesh much like the same way usa used northern alliance to defeat taliban. we can do the same job usa can do.

so friends i think we are overvaluing usa. like all other countries usa also has its weakness. nobody in this world is only strength and no weakness. it is another fault of your thinking.

 

[amitkriit]

It is better to be terrorized by the American terrorists who at least believe in freedom of thought and civil liberty, than living under the boots of CCP which doesn't hesitate in killing it's own citizens and suppressing the dissenting voice.

USA is a superpower because of the hard work of it's people, unlike China where everything is state-driven. India must strive to be like USA, because we share the same dreams and principles.

 

[Bhadra]

but what if USA suddenly attacks india? no one knows what is going on in future? and if usa is undefeatable then how come some countries like china, japan, north korea, germany are competing with it? there must be some loophole in their part using which these country are competing. why can't india?

how come 9/11 happened if the security of america is undefeatable in world? there must be some loophole friends.

besides usa fought wars against those countries which have no capability or infrastructure for war e.g. afganistan, iraq, iran etc.. secondly usa never attack singularly. as i said earlier, usa attack in groups along with NATO countries. the victory of such a "war" belongs to the group and not to a single member of the group called america.

in afganistan war america solely depend on northern alliance of pakistan. the defeat of taliban are sole credit of northern alliance and not america. in the war against soviet in afganistan, america depends on mujahidins of afganistan.these mujahidins defeated soviets. amrica got the credit. credit was given by american media. are we overvaluing america?

besides friends dig a little deeper. all the news of america's superiority we have heard are nothing but news spread by the media funded by america itself. we saw clippings of war created by the same american media. we have never experienced power of america with our eyes. did we? how true are those news when they are compared with the hard facts of 9/11? isn't america's power an ultimate propaganda?

in libiya and arab world, CIA raise a coup to overthrow the govt. can't we raise a coup to overthrow any govt.? is it a very big job? in afgan and soviet war america used other countries army to do their job. we also have done that. in bangladesh war, indira gandhi used bangladesi militia to kill pakistani soldier in bangladesh much like the same way usa used northern alliance to defeat taliban. we can do the same job usa can do.

so friends i think we are overvaluing usa. like all other countries usa also has its weakness. nobody in this world is only strength and no weakness. it is another fault of your thinking.

The crux of all your postulations and assumptions is that Americans are looking forwards to regime stablisation and regime change, even if it comes to use of military machine.

In India, Americans have enough handles like media, intelligentsia, elites, economy etc which she can use towards that end. Use of military power can only be undertaken if they see it to succeed. Remember, the British took almost 150 years to capture entire India starting from Madras right up to the frontiers. It may take USA at least fifty years ! So do not get jitters.

India is not Pakistan !