How should Modi tackle the problem called Pakistan?

[Bhadra]

Modi should order Indian army to retaliate if Pak army again does some thing like beheading.

Indian Army always retaliates without anyone telling them and anyone coming to know of it except the Paki....

 

[kseeker]

How should modi tackle if there is another 26/11 type attack on india from paki terrorist and pak as usual out rightly denies its hand,and refuse or just pretend to cooperate without any real help,and just start its traditional mantra of nuclear,nuclear,nuclear.......?

First of all, Bakis will not even dare to think and try such things now since they know that Who has come to Power! NaMo is a no nonsense man and Bakis will refrain.

^That being said, for arguments sake, if 26/11 type of cowardly attack happens from Bakistan again, Pakis will starve to death.

In my perception, NaMo will first cut Electricity and stop Water which are being donated to Bakistan on an humanity basis at present. And of course, there will be other repercussions as well, no need to explain them again right?

 

[hitesh]

We dont kill civilians directly without a reason. Thats not our nature. The best we can do perhaps is help the Balochis with weapons and money.

Surely you have no idea how the Intelligence Agencies work in the background , Governments have to go by book but Intelligence agencies can't afford doing that other wise it will be doomed .Civilians are a liability for both government & both gov knows well that where lies the week point Supporting Balochies with arms & money is passive activity of agencies like what paki government have bin doing in kashmir & punjab but when it comes to giving a clear message to a government then these thing wont matter much .
In the afghan bombing on Indian embassy was to send a clear message to Indian gov by ISI that there assets are venerable in afganistan & India did't have the same infrastructure to reply in same tone although as per reports India did tried to gather resources for payoff but was put on back-burner by then previous national security adviser . .
You have to accept that India's nature has bin too passive when it comes to responding to pak's continuous poking .
But now as the majority bound gov has come to center that too with a promising PM lets see how he handles the situation in future

 

[Hari Sud]

First all round diplomacy has to be sounded to the world leaders that India is tired of Pakistani terrorism. Like as US went to Afghanistan to tackle the terror mastermind, India would have to do the same.

That diplomacy with the world leaders would give India to chalk out its own policy.

Pakistan thru their own contacts would know that India has gone dead serious. Manmohan Singh and Sonia Gandhi era is over.

Either they would relent, or would prepare for war.

That war has to be fought. There is no other alternative to it.

Damage in India would tremendous as Pakistanis are well prepared. They know that threat with nuclear weapons to India would result in Pakistan being wiped out of the face of this earth.

On the other hand that damage on Pakistan with well prepared Indian Army will be so great with its terror infrastructure destroyed, it's military in ruins and it's government immediately sending peace feelers.

India has no alternative left. It has to fight this war as Churchill said at the onset of WWII that - if war is thrust upon you fight it.

 

[IBSA]

I think Modi should to arm and finance the Baloch rebels and Sindhudeshi militants in order to cause problems inside Pakistan.

Keep paki army occupied with internal turmoil, so it suffers loses and damages which will demoralize its forces.

To arm Afghanistan also is a good thing, since some army's weapons can leak for muslim terrorists, and they also will attack pak forces.

 

[Voldemort]

First all round diplomacy has to be sounded to the world leaders that India is tired of Pakistani terrorism. Like as US went to Afghanistan to tackle the terror mastermind, India would have to do the same.

That diplomacy with the world leaders would give India to chalk out its own policy.

Hafiz Saeed already has a bounty on his head by US.

And the world knows where Laden was found. There is no doubt in anyone's mind(the world) that Pak is a terrorist state.

All we need is some spine.

 

[Ashutosh Lokhande]

Agree with you ,but if i have to modify the question ,as ignoring a mosquito which keeps on bhin bhinowing in ur ears, and even bite you time to time is not possible.

How should modi tackle if there is another 26/11 type attack on india from paki terrorist and pak as usual out rightly denies its hand,and refuse or just pretend to cooperate without any real help,and just start its traditional mantra of nuclear,nuclear,nuclear.......?

According to me complete naval blockade of Pakistan ,along with economical blockade can be the first step to begin with.This would kill pakistan more than the few missiles we throw at them.

that amounts to an act of war. and pak will retaliate. this may turn ugly.

 

[rock127]

1. The best thing is let them burn in their own fire.

2. Concentrate making our economy and own security establishment better and acquire better things indigenous.

3. Give assistance to Afganistan and also Uzbekistan or else Pakis would spread their influence of terrorism to them.

 

[Yusuf]

Deterrence and ignore is best policy for now.

Deterrence in terms of putting a policy in place that will penalize terror attacks.

Ignore in terms of no talks at all for now.

Unfortunately Modi has been soft on Pak so far. Invited Nawaz Sharief in spite of Herat attack being fresh at that point and also started back channel talks.

 

[pankaj nema]

Deterrence and ignore is best policy for now.

Deterrence in terms of putting a policy in place that will penalize terror attacks.

Ignore in terms of no talks at all for now.

Unfortunately Modi has been soft on Pak so far. Invited Nawaz Sharief in spite of Herat attack being fresh at that point and also started back channel talks.

After Modi's victory entire Western media and Pak media went on a
overdrive claiming that Modi is all set to attack Pakistan

SO he had to do something to calm the hysteria

The invitation to Nawaz was a googly which has created another
divide between Nawaz and the Army ; with Nawaz asserting himself on
talks and trade with India

But PA and ISI are no under illusion on the response that will come from India and Modi

Some analysts have gone on to say that Modi's hand of friendship
is a ploy to gain time till he BUILDS up the Indian armed forces

What ever back channel talks may happen atleast there will be
NO crazy things done by Modi which were done by MMS

1 Making SIachen a mountain of peace ie give away Siachen

2 Making borders " irrelevant " in J and K
This so called Musharraf formula is still used by Pakistan to force
India to talk on Kashmir

India's position has changed and hardened on Kashmir and Siachen post 26/11

No talks on Kashmir and SIachen ; talk only about terrorism

But ONCE these proposals were put forward by MMS before 26/11
they are still being used by Pakistan to extract concessions

 

[Otm Shank]

I think Modi needs to lay down the foundation for a new strategy on pakistan.

1st building block would be integrating south asia and the indian ocean region economically, through commonality in culture where india has alot of soft power and through political understanding . when there is any transgression on india by pakistanis again You need to have lanka, bhutan etc all condemn pakistan by name as north korea would be condemn by her region. Having others who are affected by pakistani terror speak up will change the image of a he said she said type conflict to one where a rouge nation threatens a region

While doing that.. building block 2... a full modernization of armed forces and defense production needs to happen. Need to be at least self sufficient enough to carry out a conventional war with pakistan.

with the political capital from 1 and resource of 2 you need to use both to respond to any major attack by calling their nuclear bluff and doing a thrust into pok. Call it ending a terror factory and place the narrative of protecting regionial stability


there has never been repercussions to pakistan for using terror and thats why they continue to do so

 

[Tshering22]

1. Warn Pak about ceasefire violations

2. Warn them about infiltration.

It doesn't work. Next time, shoot their soldiers dead. A dozen of them and refuse to acknowledge it. Claim it as a TTP attack or something.

Denial is the best weapon against Denial.

3. Collect intelligence on Dawood Ibrahim and prepare a RAW hit team in Pakistan to take out Dawood and Hafiz Saeed at a suitable time ( maybe during a future conflict).

It will take years to rebuild RAW in Pakistan, thanks to that moron Gujral.

4. Keep a plan ready so that if another 26/11 or an attack of a similar magnitude occurs, we are not found wanting in our reaction. Also give a stern warning to Pakis about the same.

Now no warning will do. Heavens forbid something even a tenth of that scale happens, a special units response will be required against enemy non-combatant areas.

Like NaMo said, "Talk in language they understand".

5. Talks should continue but should be limited, since Pakistan is clearly not serious about terrorism.

Pakistan's civil leadership is paper leaders. They cannot do anything even if they wanted to.

The ISI and Army rule the nation. And they won't talk.

6. Make it absolutely clear that there will be no talks on Kashmir unless infiltrations, ISI support for groups like IM, SIMI is not stopped.

For that, we will have to revive POTA, intern suspects without notice and do a cleansweep underground in India ruthlessly while simultaneously supporting Baloch Liberation Army in every way possible.

Also, reduce trade with Pakistan and increase it with Myanmar.

 

[ladder]

It doesn't work. Next time, shoot their soldiers dead. A dozen of them and refuse to acknowledge it. Claim it as a TTP attack or something.

Denial is the best weapon against Denial.



It will take years to rebuild RAW in Pakistan, thanks to that moron Gujral.



Now no warning will do. Heavens forbid something even a tenth of that scale happens, a special units response will be required against enemy non-combatant areas.

Like NaMo said, "Talk in language they understand".



Pakistan's civil leadership is paper leaders. They cannot do anything even if they wanted to.

The ISI and Army rule the nation. And they won't talk.



For that, we will have to revive POTA, intern suspects without notice and do a cleansweep underground in India ruthlessly while simultaneously supporting Baloch Liberation Army in every way possible.

Also, reduce trade with Pakistan and increase it with Myanmar.

In short do whatever Pakistani accuse India of doing in Pakistan?

My addition, will be plan meticulously so that no traces be left behind for them to parade and western power to sing 'India Pakistan equal equal' which they did a few years ago.

 

[Voldemort]

It doesn't work. Next time, shoot their soldiers dead. A dozen of them and refuse to acknowledge it. Claim it as a TTP attack or something.

Denial is the best weapon against Denial.

Well, TTP wouldnt kill Pak soldiers on Indo-Pak borders, would they? Better way is to say that we were attacked and merely retaliated.

It will take years to rebuild RAW in Pakistan, thanks to that moron Gujral.

Gujral cut down the offensive/covert ops capabilities. We still have Intel gathering capabilities. Saeed moves around openly and RAW has reported many times that Dawood is in Karachi.

Now no warning will do. Heavens forbid something even a tenth of that scale happens, a special units response will be required against enemy non-combatant areas.

Like NaMo said, "Talk in language they understand".

Agree.

Pakistan's civil leadership is paper leaders. They cannot do anything even if they wanted to.

The ISI and Army rule the nation. And they won't talk.

Lets be realistic. Whoever the authority is, our Govt will not stop talks. Modi has already indicated that. The onus is on Pakistan to mend its ways.

 

[no smoking]

I think Modi needs to lay down the foundation for a new strategy on pakistan.

1st building block would be integrating south asia and the indian ocean region economically, through commonality in culture where india has alot of soft power and through political understanding . when there is any transgression on india by pakistanis again You need to have lanka, bhutan etc all condemn pakistan by name as north korea would be condemn by her region. Having others who are affected by pakistani terror speak up will change the image of a he said she said type conflict to one where a rouge nation threatens a region

Very good plan, the only question is you don't have that kind of money to build such a block.
History and cultural relationship may make your job easier, but nobody will jump into the big trouble between you and Pakistan unless you put something valuable on the table. And now, when Chinese is coming in, the price is getting higher and higher.

While doing that.. building block 2... a full modernization of armed forces and defense production needs to happen. Need to be at least self sufficient enough to carry out a conventional war with pakistan.

You already have an armed forces good enough to beat Pakistan in any battlefield. The problem is: US and China will help Pakistan to come back.

with the political capital from 1 and resource of 2 you need to use both to respond to any major attack by calling their nuclear bluff and doing a thrust into pok. Call it ending a terror factory and place the narrative of protecting regionial stability

So, you want to put millions of Indian lives on the line by calling their nuclear threat a bluff?

there has never been repercussions to pakistan for using terror and thats why they continue to do so

Well, India gov and army did a lot more than you know. But the problem is: you can kill terrorist by guns, but you can't kill terrorism by guns alone.

 

[Otm Shank]

Very good plan, the only question is you don't have that kind of money to build such a block.
History and cultural relationship may make your job easier, but nobody will jump into the big trouble between you and Pakistan unless you put something valuable on the table. And now, when Chinese is coming in, the price is getting higher and higher.

Being well financed certainly helps but India will have to make the best of what they currently have to work with while developing and increasing their resources.. South asian countries may be down on their luck now and eager for chinese aid but when they start being able to develop a decent economy , an outsider coming in and throwing money at them to use them will be an act of enemy not an ally. film, music, spirituality and cuisine are in unlimited supply and can be proliferated much easier while creating longer lasting social bonds than cash. I have never read a historical account relating more of cheap loans or investment than cultural exchanges

You already have an armed forces good enough to beat Pakistan in any battlefield. The problem is: US and China will help Pakistan to come back.

It may be but still India needs self sufficiency

the current disposition of pakistani leadership to allow itself be used as a counterweight to india by people from outside the region is destructive to south asian self determination and exactly why south asia needs to integrate more so they can compete with the world to get the best for the close to 2 billion people their first responsibility is to uplift. India is partially to blame as theyre playing into the role as china's counter weight and setting a bad example

So, you want to put millions of Indian lives on the line by calling their nuclear threat a bluff?

No I wouldnt want there to be any risk but unfortunately in life to achieve hings worth achieving you have to take risks. achieving regionial stability seems to be worth it. I'd like to see the same kind of brave leadership against provocative and bully actions that JFK showed during the cuban crisis or indira in the 71 war or chinese leadership during wars in the 60s and 70s in east asia

Well, India gov and army did a lot more than you know. But the problem is: you can kill terrorist by guns, but you can't kill terrorism by guns alone.

What did they do that I may be unaware of? I agree, The only permanent way to get rid of terrorism is development and integration

 

[Tshering22]

Well, TTP wouldnt kill Pak soldiers on Indo-Pak borders, would they? Better way is to say that we were attacked and merely retaliated.

Well if they can call Ajmal Kasab as Amar Singh, sue GEO for exposing their own plot and claim that even the death of an old fart somewhere in NWFP is a consequence of yindoo-Joo conspiracy, then I think our TTP lie sounds much more authentic.

Gujral cut down the offensive/covert ops capabilities. We still have Intel gathering capabilities. Saeed moves around openly and RAW has reported many times that Dawood is in Karachi.

That is true. But we don't have hit teams there. Offensive capabilities is what we need like how Mossad maintains. WE have to rebuild it all now from scratch.

Lets be realistic. Whoever the authority is, our Govt will not stop talks. Modi has already indicated that. The onus is on Pakistan to mend its ways.

NaMo will come around very soon. The point is not to stop dialogues but use trade redirecting as a threat to stop terrorism.

 

[EXPERT]

Yeah we need a new strategy against Pakistan. Our theories and practical is getting older day by day. Now we are in a position to built a new strategy so why not go ahead.
And I am sure modi will do that. .

 

[Voldemort]

Well if they can call Ajmal Kasab as Amar Singh, sue GEO for exposing their own plot and claim that even the death of an old fart somewhere in NWFP is a consequence of yindoo-Joo conspiracy, then I think our TTP lie sounds much more authentic.

Hence no one takes them seriously. If we are to be taken seriously, we need a better story.

That is true. But we don't have hit teams there. Offensive capabilities is what we need like how Mossad maintains. WE have to rebuild it all now from scratch.

Yes we need to do that.