How should Modi tackle the problem called Pakistan?

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  1. Voldemort

    Voldemort Senior Member Senior Member

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    NEW DELHI: While the Narendra Modi-led government, if it assumes power as indicated by exit polls, will ensure some amount of continuity in India's foreign relations, it will have no constructive engagement with Islamabad if the neighbouring country doesn't address India's concerns over terrorism.

    Senior leader Ravi Shankar Prasad, who has helped formulate the party's policies on crucial foreign policy issues, told TOI that India could look forward to a more robust foreign policy under Modi with its "core as promotion of national interest". "We want healthier relations with Pakistan but any constructive engagement may be difficult if India's concerns over cross-border terrorism are not addressed," Prasad said, adding that the January 2004 agreement between the two countries would be the essence of India's relations with Pakistan under Modi.

    The January 2004 agreement had underlined a public commitment by Islamabad that any territory under its control would not be allowed to be used for committing "terrorism against India".

    BJP promises to be tough on Pakistan - The Times of India

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    The relationship with Pakistan is perhaps the biggest wild card. It is not known whether Modi will essentially take the line that India needs stability in its neighborhood to ensure economic growth and development, which is the primary and perhaps sole objective for which he will have a clear public mandate. Such an assessment could mean Modi would reach out to Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and take confidence-building measures further, especially in the economic realm. There are some who think he’ll go further—in the Nixon-going-to-China vein. They point to the precedent of the last BJP Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee reaching out to the Pakistani leadership. However, it is important to keep in mind that that initiative materialized only after the Indian nuclear tests had proved that BJP-led coalition government’s security credentials. Furthermore, the fact that the Kargil conflict between the two countries erupted just a few months after Vajpayee traveled to Lahore has not been forgotten.

    There’s a possibility that Modi will take a more hawkish line instead. This is especially likely if, in the first six months or so of his government, there is a major terrorist attack in India or on Indians abroad that can be traced to elements in Pakistan. This is not a far-fetched scenario—terrorist groups might see the period of political transition as an opportunity to derail any chance for peace. And in the event of such an attack it is unlikely that any Indian government will sit back and do nothing or essentially act in a post-Mumbai-like manner—especially if there is little cooperation from the Pakistani government.
     
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    1. Warn Pak about ceasefire violations

    2. Warn them about infiltration.

    3. Collect intelligence on Dawood Ibrahim and prepare a RAW hit team in Pakistan to take out Dawood and Hafiz Saeed at a suitable time ( maybe during a future conflict).

    4. Keep a plan ready so that if another 26/11 or an attack of a similar magnitude occurs, we are not found wanting in our reaction. Also give a stern warning to Pakis about the same.

    5. Talks should continue but should be limited, since Pakistan is clearly not serious about terrorism.

    6. Make it absolutely clear that there will be no talks on Kashmir unless infiltrations, ISI support for groups like IM, SIMI is not stopped.


    My 2 cents.
     
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    They will try something either attack on border or terror attacks, it will be used to gauge the new PM.
     
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    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    Best way to tackle Pakistan is not to tackle them - let them rot !

    But keep your gunpowder dry and ready - their ideals are Ghazani and Ghori ....
     
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    India should never make a blunder of trusting Paki. India must prepare extremely well to give a sudden, devastating, deadly blow to Paki if Paki keeps
    sending terrorists inside India. Also, India needs to start countering terrorism by other creative ways of hurting Paki to make her understand that terrorism as a state policy is a very bad idea. 80% of Paki economy is based in just two cities, Lahore and Karachi....In case of war.. a lightening barrage of thousands of Prithvi missiles on these two cities can send Paki 200 years in the past. Remember, US Gen Richard Armitage said to Paki " we can bomb you to stone age before your fingers reach the nuclear button" India needs to remember Gen Armitage's smart tecnique and unhesitatingly apply it in case of war with Paki.
     
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    In Paki, unfortunately Military still calls the shots and civilians are still, puppets. Proof: Dictator Musaraff is alive and well and still ,kicking...
     
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    I would go along with Bhadra.
     
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    Not our problem. We should make our stance clear to whoever is in authority in Pakistan.
     
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    1. RAW should be given a free hand to create foothold in afganistan & western pakistan areas to better be prepared to respond to ISI's dirty tricks like they did with Indian embassy bombing (It should have bin responded with same manner by blowing there embassy staffs ) .

    2. increase the military infrastructure at border areas with sophisticated detection & suppression equipment.

    4.as above posters already pointed out ,keep a plan ready in case of another ugly trick played by Pakistan & should make clear to gov of pakistan that use of non state actors would not save them from retaliation .

    5.Secure our own assets to face pakistan's retaliation effectively .
     
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    Will that stop Pak from sending infiltrators to Kashmir or supporting terror groups? And with these kinds of covert actions of Pak, we cannot take any action but sit and watch.
     
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    We dont kill civilians directly without a reason. Thats not our nature. The best we can do perhaps is help the Balochis with weapons and money.
     
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    Answaer is No.

    That is why the recommendations to " keep your powder dry ".

    No negations, no pact, no agreement is going to stop Pakis stop sending terrorists into Kashmir and India.

    Mushraff admitted and pronounced that.
    So ?

    Be ready and keep your powder dry.

    Why to talk when talk has no meaning. Or the talks results in Kargil ?? No !!
     
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    Same Sentiments being expressed across the border in the Pure Land :

    Deal with Narendra Modi cautiously, says Pakistani paper

    Pakistan daily says Nawaz Sharif has taken right step by offering Modi olive branch before atmosphere sours and says Islamabad must now wait for Delhi’s response

    Deal with Narendra Modi cautiously, says Pakistani paper

    Islamabad: Pakistan should not show "rage where it may not be due" while dealing with a new Narendra Modi-led government in India, a leading Pakistani newspaper said on Saturday.

    "Modi’s rise to such power, decisive and non-controversial, will have a global impact but our region will have to deal with this new leader in our best national interest," The News said in an editorial.

    It said Pakistan should not succumb to pressure or compromise its interests but also not show "rage where it may not be due".

    The daily said that Modi's election campaign "was a red alert for Pakistan". But it said that as he neared the election victory, he softened the rhetoric "and was much more politically correct". It said Modi’s last comment about Pakistan was: “We will deal with it as they deal with us, as we cannot change our neighbours.”

    The editorial said: "That may be a welcome change but Pakistan will have to consider the massive impact of the BJP landslide.”

    "If history is any guide, the last BJP win when (Prime Minister) Nawaz Sharif was in power produced some startlingly positive results for Pakistan with (Atal Bihari) Vajpayee coming to Lahore on a bus and ... acknowledge that Pakistan was there to do business with.”

    "Modi may not soften his stance that quickly, but Sharif has taken the right step by offering him the olive branch before the hawks sour the atmosphere. At the moment we have to wait for more vibes from New Delhi."

    The BJP has won a majority on its own in the 545-seat Lok Sabha, crushing the Congress.
     
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    The first step to tackle enemy is to make him nervous, erratic and start attacking you verbally. Modi has already done it even before taking oath as PM. I can see 'Achey Din Aney Waye Hain''.

    Half literate Pakistanis have already started talking about Two Nation theory, which is another good sign seeing them struggling with their identity and reason to be a nation in the first place.

    The idiots are having hard time to understand participatory democracy that if any Indian Muslim goes out to even vote against Modi tantamount to failure of Two nation theory. The losers who have been so religious believer of this theory still need another reason to cherish it which its self has caused more damage to Muslims of subcontinent than benefiting them, with few exception of Muslim elites who are still ruling them since their inception on the other hand even a chaiwala can dream of becoming PM of India.
     
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    Pakistan is already nervous. All Modi needs to do, is send out some stern signals. And speed up the pending defence acquisitions.
     
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    Agree with you ,but if i have to modify the question ,as ignoring a mosquito which keeps on bhin bhinowing in ur ears, and even bite you time to time is not possible.

    How should modi tackle if there is another 26/11 type attack on india from paki terrorist and pak as usual out rightly denies its hand,and refuse or just pretend to cooperate without any real help,and just start its traditional mantra of nuclear,nuclear,nuclear.......?

    According to me complete naval blockade of Pakistan ,along with economical blockade can be the first step to begin with.This would kill pakistan more than the few missiles we throw at them.
     
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    ^ The nuclear threat is, I think a complete bluff. Pakis will dare to use their nukes. A nuke attack first would mean India will have full right to annihilate Pak and no one in the world will shed a tear as everyone will want to live in a safer world without a terrorist nation.
     
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    Modi will take along Muslims, neighbours: Pakistani daily
    ISLAMABAD: Given Narendra Modi's substantial experience as chief minister, it is unlikely that he will overtly antagonize either India's sizeable Muslim minority, or its neighbours, a Pakistani daily said.
    The Bharatiya Janata Party also has a history of engaging with Pakistan more than the Congress and, therefore, only time will tell whether the new Indian prime minister follows the legacy, the Daily Times editorial said.
    "The Indian Prime Minister (PM) in waiting has overcome the stain of communal violence, accusations of religious fundamentalism and the withering attacks of secular Indians to storm into power after netting the first full majority for any party since the 1984 elections put Rajiv Gandhi in power," the newspaper said.
    "This is what a real 'tsunami' looks like, the result of numerous tectonic shifts in the bedrock of India's polity, manifested in a tidal wave of enthusiasm for Modi's perceived ability to deliver on his promises," it said.
    The newspaper added the perception was based on 13 years of steady canvassing and image building by Modi, which has absorbed criticisms against him.
    Bogged down in incumbency and dynastic policy, the ousted Congress party lost its forward-looking momentum to the BJP, it said.
    However, the BJP's Hindutva ideology may be cause for concern for Indian Muslims, the newspaper said.
    The newspaper also criticized Modi's capitalist policies in Gujarat.
    It said Gujarat saw only eight% growth over the last decade, which was less than Tamil Nadu's
     
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    Modi should order Indian army to retaliate if Pak army again does some thing like beheading.
     

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