How Should India Deal with Illegal Immigrants?

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It can happen only in India, where vote-bank politics scores decisively over national interest and issues relating to India's sovereignty. How else can one explain the cunningness shown by the Centre and the Assam government to disregard the remedial measures suggested by two screaming Supreme Court judgments, which highlighted the demographic aggression faced by Assam from incessant influx of illegal migrants?
I wonder how many feel that it is a right assessment!

It is an ideal vehicle for the BJP to ride high!

But then I wonder what would be the opinion of the 'nationalist' posters of this forum!
 

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considering our 2nd largest population but in size we rank 7th ,we have large number of issues with multi culture,poverty and scams but usa with less population and being 2nd largest country there wont be an issue ,also they are dont spare even shah rukh khan in security check but here even deadly terrorist kasab will be treated with dessert
 

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80,000 Bangladeshis go missing in 3 years

NEW DELHI, Aug 10 – Over 80,000 Bangladeshi nationals who entered the country with valid documents have disappeared during the last three years in India.

On a day when the debate over illegal infiltration rocked the Parliament, the Home Ministry admitted in Rajya Sabha that 82585 Bangladeshi nationals, with valid travel documents have gone missing in India.

Last year some 21274 Bangladeshi nationals disappeared without a trace. The highest number of 32,644 Bangladeshis had gone traceless in 2009, though the figure came down to 28,667 the next year.

According to Home Ministry's record, 67,945 foreign nationals hailing from different countries have disappeared in India, but the highest number belongs to Bangladesh followed by nationals of Afghanistan.

As entry of illegal migrants into the country, without valid travel documents is clandestine and surreptitious, it is not possible to have any data of such illegal migrants, including those from Bangladesh and Afghanistan, missing in India, said Minister of State for Home Affairs, M Ramachandran.

The law enforcement agencies maintain a strict vigil on the activities of foreigners including those from Bangladesh and Afghanistan, he said.

A revised procedure for detection and deportation of illegal Bangladeshi immigrants was communicated to the State Government in November 2009, which was partially modified in February, last year.

The procedure includes sending back then and there, the illegal migrants, who are intercepted at the border, while entering India unauthorisedly, said the Minister.
 

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I see only one hope to this = Supreme court :sad:

Congress Hatao Desh Bachao !
in the 1975 emergency it was---indira hatao indriya bachao !!---due to the forced vasectomies :rofl:
 

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80,000 Bangladeshis go missing in 3 years

NEW DELHI, Aug 10 – Over 80,000 Bangladeshi nationals who entered the country with valid documents have disappeared during the last three years in India.

On a day when the debate over illegal infiltration rocked the Parliament, the Home Ministry admitted in Rajya Sabha that 82585 Bangladeshi nationals, with valid travel documents have gone missing in India.

Last year some 21274 Bangladeshi nationals disappeared without a trace. The highest number of 32,644 Bangladeshis had gone traceless in 2009, though the figure came down to 28,667 the next year.

According to Home Ministry's record, 67,945 foreign nationals hailing from different countries have disappeared in India, but the highest number belongs to Bangladesh followed by nationals of Afghanistan.

As entry of illegal migrants into the country, without valid travel documents is clandestine and surreptitious, it is not possible to have any data of such illegal migrants, including those from Bangladesh and Afghanistan, missing in India, said Minister of State for Home Affairs, M Ramachandran.

The law enforcement agencies maintain a strict vigil on the activities of foreigners including those from Bangladesh and Afghanistan, he said.

A revised procedure for detection and deportation of illegal Bangladeshi immigrants was communicated to the State Government in November 2009, which was partially modified in February, last year.

The procedure includes sending back then and there, the illegal migrants, who are intercepted at the border, while entering India unauthorisedly, said the Minister.

Fence the Border . . .
Stop giving Visas to anyone from Bangladesh .
 

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we must first ask Bangladesh to take back all their citizens and stop the illegal inflow of Bangladeshis to India if they fail to do that then for each illegal Bangladeshi immigrant annex 100 sq\ft Bangladeshi territory
 

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Assam : Demographic Invasion

Send KPS Gill to Assam/NE and give him free hand for few years to clear the place of Bangladeshis ! Article by KPS Gill.

Demographic Invasion

Above all, the corrupt politics of vote banks and crass electoral calculi, to the manifest detriment of the national interest, must be defeated.
K.P.S. Gill


More than three decades of ethnic and communal strife, as well as multiple insurgencies, in Assam, have never seen a significant echo outside the Northeast, other than the occasional arrest of, or incident involving, a militant hiding out in some distant part of the country. Indeed, the violence of India's wider Northeast has remained almost hermetically sealed within the region since its beginnings in 1951, with the Naga insurrection.

Abruptly, a local— albeit sizeable— conflagration in the Bodoland Territorial Administrated Districts (BTAD) of Assam has found violent reverberations in Mumbai and Pune in Maharashtra, Ranchi in Jharkhand, as well as parts of Andhra Pradesh and West Bengal. even as communal organizations from Delhi and other parts of the country send 'fact finding missions' into the affected areas in Assam, to conclude that a great conspiracy against the state's 'Muslim citizens' is afoot. The purported 'Muslim anger' over developments in the Bodo areas has congealed with apparent distress over the treatment and violent displacement of Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar. India's 'failure' to 'do enough' for the Rohingyas was one of the supposed triggers for the 'protest' in Mumbai and Ranchi, which culminated in pre-planned rioting on August 11, 2012.

Curiously, little notice has been taken here of Muslim-majority Bangladesh's inflexible position that Rohingya refugees would receive neither admission into nor shelter on, Bangladeshi soil. Indeed, Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina rather curtly told British Secretary of International Development Affairs Andrew Mitchell in London, that 'countries including Britain, which are concerned over the Rohingya issue, should hold talks with Myanmar instead of putting pressure on Bangladesh.' If the Indian leadership was susceptible to learning anything, it would see a strong lesson here.

Unfortunately, leaderships and administrators in this country remain tenaciously uneducable. Far from seeing the intentional mischief in the present troubles, they have sought to impose a pall of confusion over the most basic issues, claiming that the violence in the Bodo areas has no relationship to the long unresolved, and implicitly encouraged, problem of illegal Bangladeshi migrants. Thus, Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi baldly claimed, on July 27, 2012, "There are no Bangladeshis in the clash but Indian citizens."

Successive administrations in Assam have refused to address, and indeed, have sought vigorously to cover up, the issue of illegal Bangladeshi migration that has destabilized the state and the wider Northeast for decades now. The general pretext has been that no authoritative estimate of illegal migrant populations is available, but this begs the question, since it is the administration that is required to produce such an estimate, and has defaulted persistently on this duty. Indeed, even the Supreme Court's goading on this issue has fallen largely on deaf ears, or has met with fitful efforts at 'compliance', quickly abandoned at the first signs of predictable resistance.

On July 12, 2005, the Supreme Court of India noted that Assam was facing "external aggression and internal disturbance" on account of the large-scale illegal influx of Bangladeshi migrants, and that it was "the duty of the union of India to take all measures for protection of the state of Assam from such external aggression and internal disturbance as enjoined in Article 355 of the Constitution."

In 2005, the centre decided to update the National Register of Citizens (NRC) 'within two years', on the basis of the 1971 rolls. The exercise failed to take off. On April 22, 2009, during tripartite discussions between the central and state governments, and the All Assam Students Union (AASU), the government promised to initiate NRC updates in two revenue circles, Chaygaon in Kamrup district and Barpeta revenue circle in Barpeta district. The process commenced on June 7, 2010, as a pilot project, but almost immediately ran into trouble, with 'law and order problems' surfacing in Barpeta. On July 21, 2010, protestors under the banner of the Barpeta district unit of the All Assam Muslim Students Union (AAMSU), demonstrated violently outside the deputy commissioner's Office, demanding a halt to the process. Police eventually opened fire, killing four and injuring 50. While no official suspension was announced, the 'pilot project' stood abandoned from this point on.

On March 26, 2012, the government announced the 'decision' to re-launch the Registrar General of Citizens' Registration pilot project to update the NRC in three phases from July 1, 2012. AAMSU, with 24 other 'minority organizations' objected to the decision. The process has not begun till date.

Over the intervening years, governments, both at the centre and in the state have done much to muddy the waters. The most perverse initiative was the introduction of the Illegal Migrants (Determination by Tribunal) Act of 1983 (IMDT Act), ostensibly intended to 'facilitate' the quick detection and expulsion of illegal migrants, but, in fact, designed to disable the far more effective provisions of the Foreigners Act, 1946, which continue to apply to the rest of the country. With action initiated only on the basis of a complaint, not suo moto by state agencies, and the onus of proof shifted from the accused to the complainant, the IMDT made it nigh impossible to identify and expel any significant number of illegal migrants. The Supreme Court thus noted, in 2005, that though enquiries were initiated in 310,759 cases under the IMDT Act, only 10,015 persons were declared illegal migrants, and even among these, just 1,481 illegal migrants had been expelled in the duration of the Act, till April 30, 2000. On the contrary, it was noted, that West Bengal, where the Foreigners Act was applicable, and which also faced a major problem of illegal migration from Bangladesh, 489,046 persons had been deported between 1983 and November 1998, a significantly lesser period. The IMDT Act, the Court observed, "is coming to the advantage of such illegal migrants as any proceeding initiated against them almost entirely ends in their favour, (and) enables them to have a document having official sanctity to the effect that they are not illegal migrants."

In September 2000, the Supreme Court had directed the union government to repeal the IMDT Act by January 2001. The then Bharatiya Janata Party-led National Democratic Alliance (NDA) government at the centre failed to comply, claiming it did not have the requisite numbers in the upper house. Unsurprisingly, the present Congress-led United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government failed to initiate any process to implement the Supreme Court's standing orders, till the court struck down the IMDT Act in its order of July 12, 2005. Nevertheless, the Congress continues to contest every move seeking any change to the status quo that it has engineered on illegal immigrants in Assam, on its own cynical electoral calculus.

In the interim, efforts to 'regularize' illegal migrant populations and entrench their 'rights' in what should be protected tribal areas, on the basis of opportunistic arrangements with militant formations seeking accommodation with the state, have continued through the disastrous Assam Accord of 1985 and, more significantly in the present context, the Bodo Accord of 2003. Under the latter accord, the Sixth Schedule of the Constitution, intended to protect the special rights of vulnerable Tribal populations, was amended to guarantee the land rights of 'all communities' living in the BTAD. It is this unprincipled and opportunistic legislation that is being used by Muslim communalists within and outside Assam to claim that all Muslims in the BTAD are Indian citizens with constitutional protection to the lands they have acquired.

Through all this, the sheer enormity of the demographic reengineering in the region has been entirely ignored. Since no government has committed itself to a detailed enumeration of citizens or of illegal migrants, there are, of course, no 'official' estimates of the actual illegal migrant population in Assam. Nevertheless, authoritative estimates have periodically come into the open source from official quarters.

In 2005, then Assam Governor Lt. Gen. Ajai Singh, in a report to the union ministry of home affairs (MHA), leaked to the Press, had claimed that "upto 6,000" Bangladeshis enter Assam every day. The statement was subsequently modified under pressure from the Congress to claim that the number applied to Bangladeshis entering India, not Assam alone. A 2001 MHA estimate claimed that "150 to 170 lakh (15 to 17 million) Bangladeshi infiltrators have crossed into India illegally since 1971." Again, on July 14, 2004, the then union minister of state for home, Shriprakash Jaiswal, conceded in Parliament that, out of 12,053,950 illegal Bangladeshi infiltrators all over India, 5,000,000 were present in Assam alone."

Census figures also provide significant indices for the scale of infiltration. The Provisional Census 2011 indicated that Assam's population, at 31,169,272, had registered an increase of 4,513,744 over the preceding decade. Of the state's 27 districts, Dhubri, bordering Bangladesh, had recorded the highest growth, at 24.4 percent. The decadal growth rate for Assam, at 16.93 per cent, was lower than the overall national growth, at 17.64 per cent. Details of trends in various population groupings under the Census 2011 are yet to be released.

2011 Census data clearly suggests that the scale of infiltration has declined. Between 1971 and 1991, the Muslim population in Assam grew by 77.42 per cent as against 41.89 per cent for Hindus. Between 1991 and 2001, again, the corresponding figures were 29.3 per cent for Muslims and 14.95 per cent for Hindus. The result was that, currently, of 27 districts in Assam, at least six have 60 per cent Muslim population, while another six have over 40 per cent Muslims. And of the 126 Assembly seats, 54 Members of Legislative Assembly are dependent on Muslim 'vote banks'.

There are numerous troubles between a multiplicity of communities in Assam, and the Indian leadership and administration has failed to keep pace with contemporary trends, with the growth of populations, and with the transformation, opportunities and challenges of new technologies and processes. At base, every administration has to be anchored in principles of justice, efficiency and honesty. If this is the case, law and order automatically falls into place. When there is occasional trouble, people turn to the authorities and not to radical and armed extremist formations.

Unfortunately, the integrity of administrations has been comprehensively compromised across India, and more so in the states of the Northeast. The communalization of politics, a trend that commenced well before Partition, has progressed through the decades of Independence, even under and within purportedly 'secular' parties. The external environment has also been radicalized, with a jihadi ideology now entrenched in Pakistan finding reverberations across the world, and, at least in some measure, in India as well. It is significant, in this context, to note that, Lafikul Islam, the 'publicity secretary' of the All Bodoland Muslim Student's Union (ABMSU), had warned the state government on July 7, 2012, that, if the 'culprits' of the violence of July 6, 2012, were not arrested within 24 hours and the atrocities against the minorities did not end, ABMSU would declare jehad and take up arms. Within the current international milieu, such sentiments are sure to find their echoes among the Islamist lunatic fringe— and its mirrors in other communities— pushing India into a widening conflagration.

India's administrators, enforcement and intelligence officials cannot, within the current global context, continue to remain as ignorant as they evidently are, both of local trends within their jurisdictions, and of international trends impinging on perceptions and motivations of local populations. There is evidence that the current cycle of violence was at least partially linked to Bodo-Muslim competition to encroach on forest land, in the latter case, for the construction of an Idgah in the Bedlangmari area in Kokrajhar. However minor such an incident may appear to be on the surface, no competent administrator or intelligence operative could possibly ignore its potential for mischief— and yet, this is precisely what happened. Vast areas of forest and public land in Assam are being progressively encroached upon, with full connivance of the administration, and this cannot continue without consequences.

Law and order in India can no longer be maintained without understanding the subtle trends in violence all over the world. Terrorism and insurgency are no doubt significant patterns that will demand our attention, but there are other patterns of low-grade violence— such as the rioting in the Bodo areas— which will challenge the state progressively, especially, where terrorist and insurgent movements begin to fail. Unless administrators, police leaders and intelligence operatives are sensitive to past trends, social contexts, and international developments, they will continue to fail to respond effectively. There is tremendous need, today, to enlarge the training programmes for the superior services, whose officers are being found wanting in crises with increasing frequency.

Above all, the corrupt politics of vote banks and crass electoral calculi, to the manifest detriment of the national interest, must be defeated. India's diversity can only be held together by the unity of law and of justice, not by the unprincipled horse-trading that governs politics today.


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Courtesy: the South Asia Intelligence Review (SAIR) of the South Asia Terrorism Portal. K.P.S. Gill is Publisher, SAIR; President, Institute for Co. K.P.S. Gill is Publisher, SAIR; President, Institute for Conflict Management.
 
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Illegal migrants turn Assam into drug hub

Illegal migrants turn Assam into drug hub

The Assam-Bangladesh border, often used by illegal immigrants to enter India, is now posing another headache for the government. Officials say many immigrants are cultivating ganja on a large scale on both sides of the Brahmaputra in western Assam. The drug menace was highlighted by officials from the tax department, narcotics, customs, police and intelligence agencies during a meeting in Shillong.

They said ganja was being cultivated in the river's sandbars using farming equipment such as tillers, tractors and fertilisers.

"The illicit trade fetches a lot of money," read an official note. "The culprits are mainly illegal (Bangladeshi) immigrants with money and power, who have penetrated the heartlands of Assam," it added.

Thanks to the difficult terrain and remote locations picked by the culprits, the authorities have been caught on the back foot. "By the time we destroy one crop, another comes up," said a narcotics official.

In several areas, ganja farming has replaced food crops and oilseeds that used to be cultivated there. "The area has become the main ganja granary, with supplies going to Bangladesh and mainland India. It is a focal area as far as the drug mafia is concerned," the official said.
 

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Shame on Congress, CPI(M) and TMC. All these illegals should be made to settle near 7 RCR outside Sonia ji's gates.

Dhaka imports cows, exports Bangladeshis

Regularise it.

That seems to be our standard response to each and every act of illegal encroachment across our land.

Be it slums in Mumbai and Delhi or religious structures built overnight on prime public land in West Bengal and Uttar Pradesh, occupation is, sooner rather than later, rewarded with possession.

This applies to illegal immigrants as well, particularly if you are from Bangladesh.

I have personally seen CPI(M) cadre in north Bengal handing out not just ration cards, but land, to families that cross over from Bangladesh with clockwork regularity. In fact, a cadre waiting for a boatload to cross over from Bangladesh told me that he actually had a 'quota' to fill before the local elections were announced.

And it is this largesse – in return for votes — that has led to the recent spate of violence in Assam.

While the state and the central government, along with sections of the media, have been trying to divert attention from this fundamental cause by describing it as a 'ethnic' rather than a communal issue, the major demographic changes in Assam and other states bordering Bangladesh are a clear pointer towards the truth.

Let's forget the massive influx of refugees into India from East Pakistan following the genocide by the Pakistani Army in 1970-71, which eventually led to the India-Pakistan war in the winter of 1971 and the birth of Bangladesh. Under the Indira-Mujib accord of 1974 and the Assam Accord of 1985, the Indian government had in principle accepted that all Bangladeshis who entered India before 25 March 1971 would be given Indian citizenship. (Law Commission of India's 175th report on the Foreigners Amendment Bill, 2000)

In other words, regularised.

But the continuing influx of settlers from Bangladesh caused consternation and then anger in Assam, and by the end of the 70s, the agitation against 'outsiders' was in full swing. On 18 February 1983, over 2000 Bangladeshi Muslim settlers were slaughtered by local tribals in what is now described as the Nellie Massacre.

In an attempt to calm fears and of course, woo voters, then Prime Minister and Congress chief Indira Gandhi imposed the Illegal Migrants (Determination by Tribunals) Act 1983 on the state.

Aimed at identifying and deporting illegal immigrants, it did just the opposite by putting the onus on the state to prove that a person was not Indian. This ensured that migrants who had entered India through other states like West Bengal flocked to Assam in order to become easily 'regularised.'

Sadly, many Indian Muslims in Assam, who have lived there for generations, also became the target of the anti-outsider agitation in Assam.

Equally sadly, in a case of religious solidarity topping nationalism, Muslims leaders in the region tend to downplay the extent of illegal migration and its impact, fuelling suspicion about their motives among the non-Muslim population.

Muslim leaders in other parts of the country too, are quick to take up cause with their brethren—legal or illegal—in Assam, as seen by the recent mob violence in Mumbai, where two people were killed and at least 45 people, mostly policemen, injured by a rampaging mob.

It was only in 2005 that a three-judge Bench of the Supreme Court struck down Mrs Gandhi's Act, saying it "has created the biggest hurdle and is the main impediment or barrier in the identification and deportation of illegal migrants."

In a 114-page ruling, the court said that the "presence of such a large number of illegal migrants from Bangladesh, which runs into millions, is in fact an aggression on the State of Assam and has also contributed significantly in causing serious internal disturbances in the shape of insurgency of alarming proportions." This had made the life of the Assamese people "wholly insecure and the panic generated thereby had created fear psychosis."

The IMDT Act "is coming to the advantage of such illegal migrants as any proceedings initiated against them almost entirely ends in their favour, enables them to have a document having official sanctity to the effect that they are not illegal migrants," it said.

Observing that the enforcement of the IMDT Act had helped the illegal migrants to stay in Assam, the judges said the influx of migrants had changed the demography of the region, and the local people of Assam had been reduced to a minority in certain districts. Illegal immigration had also affected the language, script and culture of the local people, said the Bench.

I am deliberately quoting extensively from this ruling in order to stress the point that what is now being blandly described as a 'local clash' and xenophobia was at one time seen as a national security issue by the Supreme Court of India.

BJP leader LK Advani's recent remark hoping that Kashmir, where a "whole population was rendered homeless", was not repeated in Kokrajhar, was perhaps a bit over the top. However, unless the government of the day acts, and acts fast against illegal immigration from Bangladesh while at the same time assuaging the fears of both Bodos and Muslims in Assam, that fear might turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

A Bangladeshi politician once told me in a moment of candour that the India Bangladesh trade-off was simple:

"We export people, and import cows. Let's regularise it."
 

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Nagas to evict illegal Bangladeshis from Nagaland now

Tribal groups in India's north-eastern Nagaland state have said they will evict Muslim Bangladeshi migrants "illegally settled on our lands".

Tensions have been rising in the north-east following clashes between indigenous Bodos and Muslims in neighbouring Assam state in July.

Thousands of people from the north-east have also fled many Indian cities after threats of revenge attacks by Muslims.

Over the years, the Bengali Muslim population in Nagaland has grown.

'Dire consequences'

"We have nothing against anybody's religion but we cannot tolerate illegal settlers who are encroaching on our land and resources," said Joel Kath of the Naga Council, whose group has said it will identify the "illegal Bangladeshis" and push them out of Nagaland.

Nagaland's Chief Secretary Pu Lalthara warned the Naga Council of "dire consequences" if they took the law into their own hands as it is the government's job to deal with anyone who is in the state illegally.

But the Naga Council has now got support from two other powerful local groups, the Naga Hoho and the Naga Students Federation (NSF).

Correspondents say tension is running high in Dimapur, Nagaland's commercial hub and Muslims who are mostly small traders and wage-earning labourers, are staying indoors fearing assault.

Since mid-July, more than 80 people have died in clashes between Bodo tribespeople and Muslims of Bengali origin IN Assam.

More than a half-a-million people have been displaced from their homes and are now living in more than 300 makeshift camps.

The situation in the north-east has been exacerbated when thousands hailing from these states had to flee from Bangalore and other Indian cities in the last two weeks after messages threatening violence against them were circulated through mobile networks and the social media.
 

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ABVP Video: Start Watching from 1:50

Absolutely Correct and accurate situation at 12:00

This particular ABVP rally was never covered by paid/secular/sold-out media.....This rally was huge, but no coverage to the issue by minority owned media. Watch at - 17:15
 
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Indians Stop blaming bangladeshis and pakistan for your Policy failure

Stop blaming BD people and pakistan for the policy failure of indian govt and its people.Today you go from Kashmir to kanyakumari you will find bangladeshis employed by same indian public in fields on construction site as house maids housekeepers etc..why coz high increase in labour cost and bangladeshis are ready to work on lower labour costs.Just like indians do in west and usa.When there is dearth of low cost cheap labours there will always be migrant labour to fill up the void.So why cry foul ..You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Four decades india is allowing nepalis into india even knowing most of terrorist drug/fake currencies enter india via nepal route but there is no visa restriction on them Why coz they are hindu hence can be allowed but not the bangala deshis coz they are muslims.

How about if west start deporting all illegal indians from their country or the ones in gulf.Have you seen the outrage among indian when outsourcing issues are raised in usa. so y you blame BDs for the the policy failure to which every indian is responsible coz they want cheap labour.
 

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Re: Indians Stop blaming bangladeshis and pakistan for your Policy failure

Stop blaming BD people and pakistan for the policy failure of indian govt and its people.Today you go from Kashmir to kanyakumari you will find bangladeshis employed by same indian public in fields on construction site as house maids housekeepers etc..why coz high increase in labour cost and bangladeshis are ready to work on lower labour costs.Just like indians do in west and usa.When there is dearth of low cost cheap labours there will always be migrant labour to fill up the void.So why cry foul ..You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Four decades india is allowing nepalis into india even knowing most of terrorist drug/fake currencies enter india via nepal route but there is no visa restriction on them Why coz they are hindu hence can be allowed but not the bangala deshis coz they are muslims.

How about if west start deporting all illegal indians from their country or the ones in gulf.Have you seen the outrage among indian when outsourcing issues are raised in usa. so y you blame BDs for the the policy failure to which every indian is responsible coz they want cheap labour.
Strawman argument.

As you have contradicted yourself. Let me tell you that India has ample cheap labour, the only issue is mobility of labor, as indian labor is not that mobile as compared to islamic begladeshi maffia. BD with other islamic people run trafficking mafia in India! Cheap labor can never be an issue in 1.2 Billion Country like India. We are facing a lot of unemployed due to BDs in unorganized sector, where they work in gangs and maffia, do not allow others to enter that field (I have sen it myself). Yes, the problem is the vested interest of secular/corrupt politics of vote bank.

Moreover, a country like India which has a burgeoning population, cannot take care of islamic people jumping the fence in millions! Unlike the west where there was dearth of cheap labor, India has ample cheap labor.

The problem with Razakars (Bihari muslims from BD) and Bengali muslims are that they make use of India's corrupt secular political system and get impeccable paper work done, which gives them a kind of more command than the locals who are simpletons. The current situation has taken its toll due to secular politics which have not just provided citizenship to these illegal islamic people on the expense on indigenous people but they have provided these illegals with Tax-payers money to build mosque and madrasas, hence created a Jihadi explosion in the country!

Any demographic change is dangerous for India, that too when failed islamic states push their own - into our country and where muhajirs have steadily influxed (as seen wwith Hydrabadis, UP and Malabaris in particular) and BDs are encroaching our land -- this leads to the conflict and islamic jihad, which then created a mess and gets culled by an heavy hand.In short such a situation needs to be avoided and all illegal islamic people sent back to their respective shitholes. It does not matter what muhajirs, Bangladeshis, or islam thinks!
 

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Re: Indians Stop blaming bangladeshis and pakistan for your Policy failure

Stop blaming BD people and pakistan for the policy failure of indian govt and its people.Today you go from Kashmir to kanyakumari you will find bangladeshis employed by same indian public in fields on construction site as house maids housekeepers etc..why coz high increase in labour cost and bangladeshis are ready to work on lower labour costs.Just like indians do in west and usa.When there is dearth of low cost cheap labours there will always be migrant labour to fill up the void.So why cry foul ..You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Well, there is one minor detail. All these BDs are illegals.
Four decades india is allowing nepalis into india even knowing most of terrorist drug/fake currencies enter india via nepal route but there is no visa restriction on them Why coz they are hindu hence can be allowed but not the bangala deshis coz they are muslims.
There is a treaty with Nepal. Nepal was never part of India nor there was such animosity.
BD & PK were created on the basis of 2 Nations Theory. What happened to that! All these people were part of India before. They wanted a separate land. Now they have it, why come back???
How about if west start deporting all illegal indians from their country or the ones in gulf.Have you seen the outrage among indian when outsourcing issues are raised in usa. so y you blame BDs for the the policy failure to which every indian is responsible coz they want cheap labour.
There is no moral or legal basis to defend illegal immigrants. Faster they get deported, the better for all the parties.
And how is outsourcing related to this????????????????:frusty:
 
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Take all of them to border and force them to enter Bangladesh on gun point and if BD retaliates, provide cover to them militarily. The way we are deporting and number won't solve the problem of 3 million illegal BD people.
 

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