How Should India Deal with Illegal Immigrants?

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Actually this is a good solution, second best to deporting them back, at least this will not create any controversy, political compulsions will not come in the way. Like Sagarika Ghosh said we must take Pragmatic, but Humane approach.
Well amitkrill sometimes this human approach had great toll on india
 

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^^ Is she mentally ill ? :scared: :scared1: :scared2: :frusty: :facepalm:
 
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Maybe an error was made in selecting Miss India? seems like she wants
a future in politics?
 

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How Maharashtra tried to evict Bangladeshis in the 80's and 90's (partial excerpts from article). Corrupt lower level policemen were paid by intelligence officgladeials from department funds at a rate higher than that offered by illegals to pack off Bangladeshis. Note some of these Bangladeshis were intercepted and freed by CPI-M on their way to border by CPI-M

Spain is offering lump sum to migrant labour from South America who came over during building boom. Can India do something similar ? Of course after Manmohan Singh and his minions accept that there is a problem with illegal immigrants.

The Illegals: Mumbai's Bangladeshis
...For long, from the time V N Deshmukh, who later retired as Maharashtra's intelligence chief was an official in Mumbai Police Special Branch, the Bangladeshi's were ferreted out and packed off, because of their illegal status which no sovereign nation would countenance their presence. This was done quietly.

In fact that official overcame corruption by paying each constable a token money from the secret funds at his department's disposal. That neutralised the temptation of the paltry bribes the Bangladeshi's offered the men on search-and-weed operations typically conducted between 2 and 5 am. Hundreds were thus spotted and deported.

... 5,301 were deported between 1982 and 1994. From 1995 when the Sena-BJP government was formed, that is from 1995 to April 2005, as many as 4,908 were detected and deported. But during the process, some of those being sent by train towards the Indo-Bangla border were intercepted by CPI-M activists and freed when they traversed through West Bengal....
 

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In my city, near Raipur Airport there is a camp (permanent buildings i.e. a colony) called Mana Camp which is full of Bangladeshi migrants, can't say legal or illegal.
 

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Is she retarded or payed by JUD etc to vomit out crap?

I hope dumb kids who watch such channels read comments of this moron elite secular lady who has crossed all boundaries on insanity!

This is the reality and intellect of our Media! We have seen obtuse comments by her husband and now this new comment by this dimwitted lady -- I think this incident/comment is more than enough to prove how low the minority owned media channels and Cryptos - can get to keep up the ethos of secularism, so that Hinduism can be portrayed in bad light!


P.S: Never I had though that I would say this - kindly get her checked for mental instability at a good mental asylum. Also, do check her educational background that is she really educated or simply a Dimwit! :)
 
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Political and security will is required to Detect, Detain and Deport the BDs.

Political parties dont want to loose vote banks and Security forces dont want to loose 'Hafta' which is a good bonus at IB(international border) between India and BD.

Despite supreme court order to rehabilitate the internaly dislocated BODO's 15 years ago.....they are still living in camps!

what can more be expected from the system?
 

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According to government and media they say none of them are illegal but Indians , those who got settled at 1971 wont be departed so lets stop day dreaming unless assam government along with central changes
 

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Is she retarded or payed by JUD etc to vomit out crap?

I hope dumb kids who watch such channels read comments of this moron elite secular lady who has crossed all boundaries on insanity!

This is the reality and intellect of our Media! We have seen obtuse comments by her husband and now this new comment by this dimwitted lady -- I think this incident/comment is more than enough to prove how low the minority owned media channels and Cryptos - can get to keep up the ethos of secularism, so that Hinduism can be portrayed in bad light!


P.S: Never I had though that I would say this - kindly get her checked for mental instability at a good mental asylum. Also, do check her educational background that is she really educated or simply a Dimwit! :)
All of them got educated in catholic schools and college like xaviers etc
 

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All of them got educated in catholic schools and college like xaviers etc
That's besides the point! What is important is to know did they get admission through Xian quota i.e in short when were the Baptized? ;)
 

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Actually even in my state ,including my relations these generation who are studying schools in christian run management are not following any tradition as they are brainwashed by these schools and colleges .Shocking thing is more than 50 % in school going children in Hindus are brainwashed and think Hinduism as bad
 

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How Should India Deal with Illegal Migrants?
  • Take away the incentive to give away ration cards for votes.
  • Disqualify MPs and MLAs who get elected from constituencies that have had an unnatural change in demographics since 1972.
  • Amend the Immigration Act.
  • Limit rights to own property to tribals, with strict exceptions.
 

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When they make kashmir as such state to preserve muslim majority then why not with assam
 

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How Should India Deal with Illegal Migrants?
  • Limit rights to own property to tribals, with strict exceptions.
Why? Who all will one kill and give land to useless people? Snatch land from tribal in kokrajhar and give it to Bengalies and Marwaries? Strange suggestion having no logic !!
 

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How illegal immigrants morphed into an invaluable vote-bank

How illegal immigrants morphed into an invaluable vote-bank - The Times of India

It can happen only in India, where vote-bank politics scores decisively over national interest and issues relating to India's sovereignty. How else can one explain the cunningness shown by the Centre and the Assam government to disregard the remedial measures suggested by two screaming Supreme Court judgments, which highlighted the demographic aggression faced by Assam from incessant influx of illegal migrants?

In 1971, India was complaining in the UN about the aggression it faced from the huge population shift that was taking place from East Pakistan to its northeastern part. Strangely, 40 years later, the illegal migrants have become an invaluable vote-bank for certain political parties, which hedge the question of their identification and deportation, despite clear directions from the apex court in two rulings in 2005 and 2006.

In 1971, the Sixth Committee of General Assembly was debating to define "aggression". India's representative Dr Nagendra Singh voiced serious concern about the incessant flow of migrants from East Pakistan into India and termed it as an aggression to unnaturally change the demographic pattern. Surely, India was preparing a ground for lending active military support to Mukti Bahini in the creation of Bangladesh.

Dr Singh supported Burma (now Myanmar), UK and others and said a definition of aggression excluding indirect methods would be incomplete and therefore, dangerous. "For example, there could be a unique type of bloodless aggression from a vast and incessant flow of millions of human beings forced to flee into another state. If this invasion of unarmed men in totally unmanageable proportion were to not only impair the economic and political well-being of the receiving victim state but to threaten its very existence, I am afraid, Mr Chairman, it would have to be categorized as aggression," he said.

"In such a case, there may not be use of armed force across the frontier since the use of force may be totally confined within one's territorial boundary, but if this results in inundating the neighbouring state by millions of fleeing citizens of the offending state, there could be an aggression of a worst order," he had said while arguing for a broader meaning of aggression to include unmanageable influx of migrants.

The illegal migration did not subside even after Bangladesh came into being. A six-year violent agitation against illegal migrants led to signing of the Assam Accord in 1985 between Assam student leaders and then PM Rajiv Gandhi. It promised a comprehensive solution to the festering problem.

In 1998, the then Assam governor sent a secret report to the President informing that influx of illegal migrants from Bangladesh continued unabated into the state, perceptibly changing its demographic pattern and reducing the Assamese people to a minority in their own state. It had become a contributory factor for outbreak of insurgency in the state, he said.

The SC in the Sarbananda Sonowal [2005 (5) SCC 665] case quoted from the governor's report to say, "Illegal migration not only affects the people of Assam but has more dangerous dimensions of greatly undermining our national security. ISI is very active in Bangladesh supporting militants in Assam. Muslim militant groups have mushroomed in Assam. The report also says that this can lead to the severing of the entire land mass of the northeast with all its resources from the rest of the country which will have disastrous strategic and economic consequences."

The political game over illegal migrants came to the fore in 2000. The AGP government in August 2000 presented disturbing statistics to the SC — Muslim population of Assam went up by 77.42% between 1971 and 1991 while Hindu population increased only by 41.89%. In September 2000, this affidavit was quickly withdrawn by the Tarun Gogoi government immediately after coming to power. The Gogoi government also defended continuance of Illegal Migrants Determination through Tribunal (IMDT) Act, repeal of which was sought by the AGP government on the ground that it was totally ineffective in identifying illegal migrants.

The SC termed incessant flow of illegal migrants into Assam as "aggression" and castigated the Centre for failing in its duty under Article 355 to protect the state. It said, "There can be no manner of doubt that Assam is facing 'external aggression and internal disturbance' on account of largescale illegal migration of Bangladeshis. It, therefore, becomes the duty of Union of India to take all measures for protection of Assam from such external aggression and internal disturbance as enjoined in Article 355."

It quashed the ill-suited IMDT Act and directed effective identification of illegal migrants through tribunals under the Foreigners Act. Instead of implementing the directive, the Union and Assam governments attempted to obfuscate the issue by passing a new notification giving relief to illegal migrants from imminent identification. SC saw through the game and in December 5, 2006, pulled up both the governments [Sonowal-II, 2007 (1) SCC 174].

The problem of illegal migrants raised its ugly face yet again in Assam through recent riots. Other northeastern states have also been nervously watching similar demographic situations building up. It is time for the Centre and Assam, who are morally in contempt of the two SC rulings, to take concrete and decisive measures to solve the problem. Else, we will witness Assam-like flare-ups in more northeastern states.
 

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Congress govt at the center and at Assam avoided SC's orders and it's a contempt of the court, LK Adwani rightly called it "illegal govt", while the same MMS was PM then.

Why do people vote to Congress when it willfuly tries to hide the illegal migrants for vote bank and thus they fail in their very first duty of saving the country from "external aggression" !! And it can be termed as sedition, Congress is committing sedition!
 

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How illegal immigrants morphed into an invaluable vote-bank

How illegal immigrants morphed into an invaluable vote-bank

Dhananjay Mahapatra, TNN | Aug 13, 2012,


It can happen only in India, where vote-bank politics scores decisively over national interest and issues relating to India's sovereignty. How else can one explain the cunningness shown by the Centre and the Assam government to disregard the remedial measures suggested by two screaming Supreme Court judgments, which highlighted the demographic aggression faced by Assam from incessant influx of illegal migrants?

In 1971, India was complaining in the UN about the aggression it faced from the huge population shift that was taking place from East Pakistan to its northeastern part. Strangely, 40 years later, the illegal migrants have become an invaluable vote-bank for certain political parties, which hedge the question of their identification and deportation, despite clear directions from the apex court in two rulings in 2005 and 2006.

In 1971, the Sixth Committee of General Assembly was debating to define "aggression". India's representative Dr Nagendra Singh voiced serious concern about the incessant flow of migrants from East Pakistan into India and termed it as an aggression to unnaturally change the demographic pattern. Surely, India was preparing a ground for lending active military support to Mukti Bahini in the creation of Bangladesh.

Dr Singh supported Burma (now Myanmar), UK and others and said a definition of aggression excluding indirect methods would be incomplete and therefore, dangerous. "For example, there could be a unique type of bloodless aggression from a vast and incessant flow of millions of human beings forced to flee into another state. If this invasion of unarmed men in totally unmanageable proportion were to not only impair the economic and political well-being of the receiving victim state but to threaten its very existence, I am afraid, Mr Chairman, it would have to be categorized as aggression," he said.

"In such a case, there may not be use of armed force across the frontier since the use of force may be totally confined within one's territorial boundary, but if this results in inundating the neighbouring state by millions of fleeing citizens of the offending state, there could be an aggression of a worst order," he had said while arguing for a broader meaning of aggression to include unmanageable influx of migrants.


The illegal migration did not subside even after Bangladesh came into being. A six-year violent agitation against illegal migrants led to signing of the Assam Accord in 1985 between Assam student leaders and then PM Rajiv Gandhi. It promised a comprehensive solution to the festering problem.

In 1998, the then Assam governor sent a secret report to the President informing that influx of illegal migrants from Bangladesh continued unabated into the state, perceptibly changing its demographic pattern and reducing the Assamese people to a minority in their own state. It had become a contributory factor for outbreak of insurgency in the state, he said.

The SC in the Sarbananda Sonowal [2005 (5) SCC 665] case quoted from the governor's report to say, "Illegal migration not only affects the people of Assam but has more dangerous dimensions of greatly undermining our national security. ISI is very active in Bangladesh supporting militants in Assam. Muslim militant groups have mushroomed in Assam. The report also says that this can lead to the severing of the entire land mass of the northeast with all its resources from the rest of the country which will have disastrous strategic and economic consequences."

The political game over illegal migrants came to the fore in 2000. The AGP government in August 2000 presented disturbing statistics to the SC — Muslim population of Assam went up by 77.42% between 1971 and 1991 while Hindu population increased only by 41.89%. In September 2000, this affidavit was quickly withdrawn by the Tarun Gogoi government immediately after coming to power. The Gogoi government also defended continuance of Illegal Migrants Determination through Tribunal (IMDT) Act, repeal of which was sought by the AGP government on the ground that it was totally ineffective in identifying illegal migrants.

The SC termed incessant flow of illegal migrants into Assam as "aggression" and castigated the Centre for failing in its duty under Article 355 to protect the state. It said, "There can be no manner of doubt that Assam is facing 'external aggression and internal disturbance' on account of largescale illegal migration of Bangladeshis. It, therefore, becomes the duty of Union of India to take all measures for protection of Assam from such external aggression and internal disturbance as enjoined in Article 355."

It quashed the ill-suited IMDT Act and directed effective identification of illegal migrants through tribunals under the Foreigners Act. Instead of implementing the directive, the Union and Assam governments attempted to obfuscate the issue by passing a new notification giving relief to illegal migrants from imminent identification. SC saw through the game and in December 5, 2006, pulled up both the governments [Sonowal-II, 2007 (1) SCC 174].

The problem of illegal migrants raised its ugly face yet again in Assam through recent riots. Other northeastern states have also been nervously watching similar demographic situations building up. It is time for the Centre and Assam, who are morally in contempt of the two SC rulings, to take concrete and decisive measures to solve the problem. Else, we will witness Assam-like flare-ups in more northeastern states.

How illegal immigrants morphed into an invaluable vote-bank - The Times of India
Is it a bloodless war that has been unleashed on India?

Or is it rumour mongering and scare tactics?
 

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