How Should India Deal with Illegal Immigrants?

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Illegal Immigration into India : The Need to curb it .

With the recent census the countries figures are bulging out , there is acute shortage of necessary requirements.
The PQLI(physical quality of life index ) and HDI( human development Index)in india is not on the rise .

One of the major problem has been illegal immigration into the country from all sides.what should india do to curb this menace.

1> Start issuing VISAS to SAARC nations ( nepal , bangladesh , butan , srilanka)/ Stop passport less travel

2> Amend the rules for permanent citizenship

3> Formulate new plans of family planning.



Bring out your views clearly how this can be done.
 

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great thread av but lets see how our members contribute here
 

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The greatest disservice done to the nation is by the left front government in West Bengal who allowed illegal Immigrants from Bangladesh during their long rule. Gave them indian IDs like ration cards and made them their permanent vote banks. For India, illegal Bangladeshis are the only menace because of their huge numbers. I don't think there is any other illegal immigration problem from other SAARC countries.

Just for members knowledge, Visa is requires by all SAARC countries except Nepal and Bhutan. Rest of the countries need visa including sri lanka. It is really funny, but a Sri Lankan coming to India requires a pre processed visa and it is not free, but an Indian going to SL gets visa on arrival for free.

There is a visa requirement for Bangladeshis and Pakistanis. It is very difficult for a Pakistani at least to get an Indian visa and vice versa.

The real problem for India is not the visa regime, but the porous and either poorly or unguarded borders. There have been cases of the BSF letting in illegal immigrants for money. Off course the left govt in WB was an expert in letting them in. Obviously they will deny it, but it's a fact.

The national ID system if implemented properly will help to a big extent. Those who have already come in and have secured ration cards etc will also acquire these new IDs based on their previous cards. But care has to be taken that new entrants don't get any IDs from here on. I am not sure though if it can be implemented as the migrants coming in are Muslims and they are delicious vote banks for those assisting them come in.
 

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With the recent census the countries figures are bulging out , there is acute shortage of necessary requirements.
The PQLI(physical quality of life index ) and HDI( human development Index)in india is not on the rise .

One of the major problem has been illegal immigration into the country from all sides.what should india do to curb this menace.

1> Start issuing VISAS to SAARC nations ( nepal , bangladesh , butan , srilanka)/ Stop passport less travel

2> Amend the rules for permanent citizenship

3> Formulate new plans of family planning.



Bring out your views clearly how this can be done.
Shoot the illegal Bangladeshis when they cross the border. BSF was doing that but the slimeball traitor Congress government stopped that from happening. They pressed BSF not to shoot Bangladeshis.
 

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Illegal migration is also a problem in assam, and Assam probably has more illegals then West Bengal, atleast as a share of population.Illegals are the reason why the congress won in Assam , also the Left Front's votebankk were the peasants and not illegal banglas , land reform bought them that vote forever.
 

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Assam Riots: How Should India Deal with Illegal Migrants?
Like any other region of India, Assam too has seen large scale migration throughout history. Migrants from both sub-continent and from east were accommodated and assimilated in the larger Assamese society. For instance Ahoms who ruled Assam for over 600 years were descendants of ethnic Tai people from Burma. Assamiya identity crystallized during the latter part of Ahom rule in response to Islamic incursions from neighboring Bengal. Ahoms infact scored a decisive victory against the marauding Mughal army in 1671. Thanks to the patronage provided to Hinduism by later day Ahom Kings, many tribes dotting the complex ethnic landscape of Assam were subsumed in to larger Hindu framework which concomitantly and comfortably co-existed with an emerging Assamiya identity. Linguistic conception of Assamese nationhood too played a decisive role in strengthening the identity.


By the time India secured independence in 1947, Assam was a region with a divergent demographic composition. As a complex cauldron of polyethinicities, state had Ahoms, various hill tribes of Nagaland, Meghalaya and Mizoram, indigenous tribes like Bodos and Mising, migrants from peninsular India brought by the British to work in tea industries, Sikhs living in villages near Nowgaon since pre-colonial era and other migrants from rest of India who came for trade and mainly inhabited cities. That was the time when Indian nationhood as we know it came into being, and we became a republic a couple of years later. Not that it's not common knowledge, but it's central to the debate as we seek to demonstrate.

The first wave of large-scale migration post-independence was in 1971 – about 10 million Bengalis took refuge in India during the liberation war of Bangladesh as they were persecuted by erstwhile West-Pakistani Army. About 100,000 Chakmas, a minority Buddhist tribe, from the Chittagong Hill Tracts of Bangladesh, fled erstwhile East Pakistan as communal violence was unleashed on them. Chakmas faced oppression on grounds of religion and ethnicity at the hands of the East Pakistan government. Over and above the migration caused by such cataclysmic events. extraordinary population density and pressure on land in east Bengal also contributed to the migration. Many of them never returned and started competing with the native Assamese for land and resources.


Not surprisingly thanks to the radical reshaping of religious, ethnic, linguistic composition of the state, due to the what now is called in popular narrative as 'Illegal' immigration', Assamese started to agitate for deportation of Bangladeshi refugee turned immigrants and the agitation reached its peak during early 80s. It's common knowledge that the ruling Congress struck gold in terms of huge number of assured votes in the form of grateful Bangladeshis. That was one of the first instances of Congress's perhaps hugely successful experiment with vote bank politics that entire India is familiar with today.


Ruling Cong tried it's best to maintain status quo as it suited them. It tried to divide Assam by driving a wedge between Bodos and Ahoms – it was the time when demand for a separate "Bodoland" started to emerge. The highly controversial IMDT Act of 1983 was enacted that made it near impossible for a Bangladeshi migrant to be deported from Assam. Under the Act, the onus of establishing nationality rests not on the illegal migrant, not on the government,but on an individual who had to pay a fee to lodge a complaint to a stipulated jurisdiction. It took 22 years for the Supreme Court to repeal IMDT Act as un-constitutional in 2005. The economic disparity between Bangladesh and India coupled with a government friendly to illegal immigrants and a corrupt security force manning borders ensured that large scale immigration continue unabated.

Assam agitation culminated in "Assam Accord" signed by the central government and representatives of All Assam Students Union. This was largely an economic package and along with Illegal Migration Determination by Tribunal (IMDT) Act, enacted two years before the accord, virtually regularized illegal migrants from Bangladeshis who migrated into India up to March, 1971 and even beyond. Peace was bought through a financial package on one hand, and status-quo prevailed in terms of accepting Bangladeshis who migrated before March, 1971 as Indian citizens on the other. The vote bank was saved. Constitutionality of such an accord between a students union and central govt was never questioned.


What followed was rise of armed rebellion by United Liberation Front of Assam demanding independence from India. ULFA became yet another outfit from North East asking for freedom from India, after National Socialist Council of Nagaland and Mizo National Front. President's rule ensued and AFSPA was applied to quell the "militancy". ULFA militancy was controlled by sustained military action on one hand and rival militancy of outfits like National Democratic Front of Bodoland and Muslim United Liberation Tigers of Assam etc. on the other. If rumors are to be believed the other outfits were created and sponsored by state as counterweight to ULFA. How far is that true is anybody's guess.


The other consequence of Assam agitation and accord was All Assam Students Union (AASU) developing into a full-fledged political party – Assam Gana Parishad (AGP), first credible opposition to Congress in Assam, it had two, including a partial tenure, clueless, lacking in vision, and largely unremarkable tenures as govt in the state. In the last elections Assam United Democratic Front (AUDF) representing the now substantial Muslim population of Assam overtook AGP to become the second largest party after Congress in state assembly.


The Bangladeshi migrants who came as refugees initially struggled to make a living and gradually started competing for land and resources with villages in hinterland leading to violent clashes with the natives the worst of which we are witnessing in Kokrajhar that saw more than 40 people killed and close to 200000 people mostly Bodos displaced from their home and rendered refugees.

Predictably, Congress is in the same denial mode refusing to accept that Illegal Bangladeshi Migrants are the source of problem and taking refuge behind Assam Accord which they signed with AASU to legitimize Bangladeshi migrants. They tend to be ably supported by the mainstream national media that has over the years become an appendage of the state. The rest of Assam is helplessly watching from the sidelines as the state is still under AFSPA marked by heavy presence of security forces. They nurture a hope that Army/SFs will take care of the situation and restore their rights as citizens, as they ought to have in normal circumstances. Or maybe they have reconciled to vote bank politics which they know is a reality they have to live with.


Assam accord which I consider dubious (it legitimized millions of Bangladeshi immigrants who came in before 1971 instead of taking 1947, the year of independence as the only acceptable point of time as it ought to have since India became Republic) is at the heart of the debate. The matter was too important to be have been left it to an inexperienced students union and the ruling party to decide that it was merely an economic package that was needed for the state. The matter should have been decided at least by the parliament after a thorough national level debate. If the issue of Citizenship and the Citizen's rights over Foreign Migrants is a regional issue then by that stretch even the issue of Territorial Integrity should also be a regional one.


Having said that, Bangladeshi migrants are a reality that we as a nation must acknowledge. The economic disparity we have with Bangladesh that drives migration cannot be overlooked. We have to deal with them and decide the approach we want to take, should we confine them to refugee camps – the approach many countries take, or allow them to legitimately earn a living as non citizens – like in Dubai for e.g. is a call the Nation has to take collectively through parliament.

Certain amount of labor migration from various countries comprising South Asia is to be expected for economic reason considering the disparity in the economies of various countries. So the first approach that involves confining all illegal migrants to camps and treating them as convicts, even though it's the most popular method being used by the western world including US to deal with the issue of illegal migration, may not be practical or desirable in India's case. Hence the second approach of allowing them to legitimately stay, with limited rights, and earn a living, knowing fully well that they will compete with Indian labours, increasing supply in the labor market, seems to be the best available alternative.


Having infiltrated into India, illegal migrants would either head for cities for jobs, or look for pieces of fertile land to own. Our Villages are ill equipped to handle more than handful of migrants to help them as farm hands or at odd jobs, least of all share their agricultural lands with them. Cities on the other hand have a voracious appetite for labors, and they are better equipped than the villages in terms of availability of sufficient police force to take care of law & order situations, utilities, and job opportunities to make it possible for the migrants to make a living without land ownership, the downside of which is driving down of wages in the labor market.


If we "must" have migrants from other countries, we must have them in cities which are better equipped to handle them and their cosmopolitan nature reduces friction between communities and provide a support base for various communities, which can not be expected from villages anywhere, and any attempt at forcing villages to accept and share resources with foreign migrants will lead to bloody clashes the kind of which we are seeing in Assam.


IMDT Act, enacted by the ruling Cong in 1983 that replaced the Foreigner's Act of 1946, was clearly driven by political agenda of vote bank. Supreme Court declared the act unconstitutional in 2005, but 22 years were enough to change the demographic along with electoral landscape of Assam. The rights of Scheduled Tribes like Bodos etc. and also that of non-tribal villagers need to protected at all cost. And rights of foreign migrants cannot be put on the same pedestal as those of citizens.


There is no dearth of practical solutions and ideas as expressed by the opinion leaders, well nformed and good intentioned people Like here (Beyond the Blockade: The Key to Manipur | Opinions - Yahoo! News India) and here (Illegal migration issue (with image, tweets) · Dosabandit · Storify), which thanks to a democratic social media have made it possible for people to express and spread. Thanks to them a renewed and much needed debate on a national level on the crucial issue of how to deal with Illegal Migration has been set rolling which till now was sadly absent in the main stream media. Whatever be the solution that emerges from the debate can only be better than dubious accords and flawed legislations like IMDT.
 

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How to share Assam
The recent ethnic clashes between Hindu Bodos and Muslim immigrants, which occurred in the Bodoland Territorial Autonomous Districts of lower Assam (BTAD), were unfortunate. However, the clashes were not wholly unexpected. The question that is generally asked is: why did it take a few decades to occur in the first place? Assam has been virtually sitting on a huge tinderbox.

Any knowledgeable person in Assam knows well enough that migration into the state started during the late 1960s and early 1970s, when India fought two wars with Pakistan, in 1965 and 1971 respectively. It was during the 1971 Bangladesh operation that large numbers of former East Pakistani — now Bangladeshi — citizens were evacuated and housed in districts along the present Indo-Bangladesh border. This occurred in the district of erstwhile Goalpara, including Dhubri, and in the adjacent districts of West Bengal, Tripura and Meghalaya. It was estimated that between two and three million people were kept in the relief camps that were organised by the government of India, as well as by the state governments. They were kept in those camps for about six to eight months. Most of these relief camps were located in large open grazing grounds, school buildings as well as other public buildings. After Bangladesh was established, most of these evacuees went back there, but a certain percentage of them remained in India.

Even today, the Indo-Bangladesh border is not properly guarded and fenced, largely due to the difficult geographical conditions. There are a large number of rivers, riverine channels and drains in the area. This poses a major engineering problem for fencing and makes guarding difficult. Unless we use the latest technologies, as the Israelis have done, this problem is going to remain and illegal migration to the Northeast will continue. It has been alleged by knowledgeable persons that out of the 27 districts in Assam, 11 of them are going to be Muslim majority districts once the 2011 census figures, religion-wise, are published by the census authorities.

The present ethnic clashes between the two communities can be directly attributed to the aforementioned facts of illegal migration into Assam. Since 1971, it has been noticed that to a large extent, government land in the char areas and lands earmarked as grazing grounds have been systematically appropriated by illegal migrants, in collusion with the district and local administrations. Today, most of the districts along the Indo-Bangladesh border are devoid of government lands or large grazing grounds, which were once an asset to the local communities and farmers. The systematic grabbing of government lands and the steady encroachment of denuded forest areas by illegal immigrants and non-indigenous communities have created serious differences among the local indigenous populations. The concern voiced by the local political leaders, especially by the chief of the BTAD, Hagrama Mohilary, on the current issue, needs to be seriously examined by the state and Central governments. The BTAD areas are governed under the Sixth Schedule of the Indian Constitution and tribal bloc rules and regulations are also applicable.

It is a fact that the population in all these areas has been going up by leaps and bounds. It is not surprising, therefore, that there is a clash of interest in the sharing of natural resources such as forests, grazing grounds or even lands. With the mounting population pressure and dwindling scarce resources, unemployment, and the lack of opportunities to make a livelihood, one can easily understand the problem and expect that it will recur from time to time.

Even the Election Commission of India is not immune to this problem. It has to tackle the problem of D-Voters (doubtful voters), numbering approximately 1.5 lakh, while preparing the electoral rolls of Assam. The subject matter is sub-judice. This also poses a very serious security threat to the country. It is advisable that these pending cases lying in various courts and tribunals be disposed of quickly and within a definite timeframe. People who are found to be illegal migrants by these tribunals should be deported. Unless this basic issue of illegal migration into the country is resolved, the problem is bound to recur from time to time and in place to place.
 

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Indian Govt needs to do nothing. Just strengthen the vigil on the Assam-WB border and Assam-rest of NE states border and let the natives do the cleansing job.

I've lost faith that this Govt would do anything given that they have not even accepted that Bangladeshi immigrants are involved in this.To solve a problem you have got to accept the problem exists.
 

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I see only one hope to this = Supreme court :sad:

Congress Hatao Desh Bachao !
 
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Assam problem is creation of Congress party over the decades through negligence and deliberate complicity for electoral gains.
 

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All it requires is a political will.

Get all into Camps. Identify with all seriousness the illegals. Deport them or push them back.

Set up the Anti Infiltration Obstacle System as they have in J&K.

It may still not 'seal' the border, but will drastically cut down the illegals from entering.
 

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All it requires is a political will.

Get all into Camps. Identify with all seriousness the illegals. Deport them or push them back.

Set up the Anti Infiltration Obstacle System as they have in J&K.

It may still not 'seal' the border, but will drastically cut down the illegals from entering.
Even after directed by SC they didn't revive their political will, in fact 'they have a political will' to secure their vote bank, and this is the indication that now Congress has become a dictator, needs to be thrown out.

See TwoCircles, it is spreading propaganda "Kokarajhar ke Musalmano pe atyachar band karo" it forgot to mention about Bangladehi Muslims.
 
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Two Circles should be treated with the two circle men carry as a part of their anatomy.

Bodos being massacred too have to be reckoned in the misery caused.

And Bodos are tribal and a small section of the Indian population unlike the Muslim who do have a powerful voice in the country and abroad.
 

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deport illegal bangladeshis to their homeland and fence the border

provide relief and rehabilitation for the riot affected on a war-footing

see to it that politicians who provided fake voting and ration cards are arrested and punished for treason
 

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This chaos will increase in this con party led "secular" country; as for past 60 yrs Secularist, Corrupt and minority anti-national forces have been diluting Hinduism to the core, that too with the help of left/liberal traitors -- and I find Hindus celebrating their own destruction in the guise of propagation of "secularism"!

All this is a trailer!

Wait and watch how Congress/Corrupt/Secular forces in connivance with Jihadis and Missionaries will take this nation into chaos (again)!

Hindus did not learn from 1947 ethnic cleansing, they did not learn from Kashmir valley genocides and cleansing, they did not learn from NE ethnic cleansing....Heck they have not learned from past 1400 yrs ---- If the state of affair for COWARD Hindu mentality goes on like this soon you all will be pushed into the Ocean as of from now - Hindus have no place to run to! Hahhahahha wow

P.S: Only way Hindus can live in peace and prosper is to Eliminate Con-gress and its secularism from the face of this Planet -- If Hindus can not do that then be prepared for yet another round of Rape, Loot and Plunder - this time not just by Jihadis and Evangelists but even by your fellow treacherous Fellow secular/Con party Hindus! One more point - learn to identify Cryptos who masquerade as Hindus however are evangelical agents working in Media and NGOs - influencing gullible coward dumb Hindus!
 
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Lateef Mohd Khan of CLMCI talks about the politics behind the Violence on Muslims in Assam. This is a response to the escalating communal violence in Assam that saw many Muslims being systematically butchered.

Civil Liberties Monitoring Committee (CLMCI) is a leading Human Rights Organistaion of India based in Hyderabad.
 
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^^^ Namak Haramis like these are a blot on the fabric of India.
 

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^^^^^^ Is this guy lame or what?
 
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