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The Democratic process that we have has not evolved.
The question during the elections for seat of MP is
a) Are we voting for the Person because we feel he is capable?
b) Are we voting for the party he represents?

The present system does not really work, also we should have a seperate election for say PM (elected by the people and not the peoples representative)

The problem with our present system is that we elect a representative and then the representative does whatever he feels taking his constituency's needs and desires as granted. This is one of the big flaw and never has the flaw been so humiliatingly making us feel helpless, causing many people to desire dictatorship by a capable dictator than the idiots of Khangress party

thats why im willing to give more strength to the systems of this country. we have many examples that PMs, and Presidents are sent to jails if they violate laws, as they are paid to do their duties only, in return of the salary they receive, while following laws. we have example of Mr PVN Rao who was sent to jail for corruption, while holding the post of PM of India. similar case we had about Mr Suharto of Republic of Democratic Indonesia, and one more case we have right now too when the previous Prime Minister of Italy is facing jail right now for corruption. similarly we know, how Mr B.Clinton faced trial, and could hardly survived for having sex with his secretory in his office as a president of democratic US........

its a simple case that, stronger the systems of India, the more secured and safer it will be. we won't let few people become a reason for destruction of this country, regardless of any party :india:

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@ and its all in short, "terrorist camps are being run by the opposition party, BJP/RSS, but no action taken by Shinde, who became Home Minister without any proper background for this high position and then he first made this statement in return of the the position he got. Digvijay's "Fake Batla House Encounter" to help the Western Media that India does 'fake' encounters against its minorities. its the Manmohan Singh's visit to North East by late 2011/ early 2012 and saying, "all the Bangladeshi infiltrators are also Indians", to fuel Sectarian Wars in India this way. Caste Divide and Rule organized since i came by late 2011 too. Rahul's struggle for 'english' in open etc., all started since i came here in mid 2011, including Sunny Leone was sent here to introduce a porn star in Bollywood to start a "cultural war", to promote of Single Mother Culture of Western Nations???? US/ UK infused their every strength on India since mid 2011, including sending people like Bill Gates/ Warren Buffet who could also contribute something for their governments. including killing two fisher men by the Italian Marines by the late 2011, which was mainly intended to unite the European Union against India for a reason, all started since i arrived in August 2011 and didn't back...... while i got the information that because of mine things were going wrong since 2007, but when i come here, no one receive me in India? but when i finally canceled my flight this time in mid 2012, then these manmohan/ sonia/ rahul/ pranab etc then directly started 'fighting' for US/ UK/ Australia/ Canada in India itself? all the attacks on the Indians during 2009-10 in these four countries was because of mine, including formation of Indian Muzahidin since May 2008, as per the information i got, but no one received me in India in 2009-10, and when i finally refused to go to a western country in 2012, then these four started fighting with me in India, in behalf of these four western countries???????) even India Media was showing the news by the late 2011 that, "US offered India help against China during 1972 war, while US and UK both sent their Aircraft Carriers to attack on India in 1972 war, and it was the Russian Nuclear Submarine which helped India during that war against US? i even counted 4 to 8 murders of Russian girls in Goa since 2010/11, and targeting few Russians in trample since 2011 itself? all the friends were being targeted for last 5-6 years and all the enemies became friends????

also we had one TV serial by Mr Amir Khan, Satya Mev Jayate, was organized to start since i came here in August 2011, in front of mine. and it was all about doing wrong publicity about India, based on lies. first i showed a episode while Amir Khan crying in front of all on TV as Indians living in US, beat their wife for 2 onions, as that man got less Dowery, while Indians are the richest community living in US??? again i was shown an article by Mr Amir Khan in Dainik Jagran about "Untouchables", which was also part of wrong campaign about India since i came here in August 2011, to help the enemies nation get a chance to attack on India for few reasons. and again he started "mal-nutrition" of Indian kids to help the western war champions down reputation of India on the world platform. while i found him doing all these as per the guidelines by the people handling him. and who they might be? then again i remember Mr Yashwant Sinha arguing Mr M.Singh, on TV shown to me in my home by the late 2011, that, "did we do destructive works during 1998-2004? didn't we do any constructive works?"

(while that BJP government first time achieved 8.0%+ growth during 2003-04, after 12 years of economic reforms in 1991, with 6.0%+ growth during their 6 years of BJP government 1998-2004, much higher growth during than the UPA's economic reforms during 1991 to 1997. even first nuclear test was done by Ms I.Gandhi under congress government in 1974, Smiling Buddha, while 1998 nuclear was in fact delayed by Mr Rao, which then BJP had to do under guidelines of Mr A.Kalam itself.... BJP had all the economic sanctions since then, with fall of ASEAN economies since 1998 which also affect the growth. Kargil war in 1999, military stand off in 2001, biggest drought during of 80 year in 2002, but still that Vajpayee Government during 1998 to 2004 could have 6.0% growth rate during their 6 years of government in India, much higher than that of 1991 to 1997...... and we do know that since then only India could have 8.0%+ growth rate, due to the projects started during that Vajpayee's government, and the changes made during that period which finally brought Indian economy to this level, to 8.0%+ growth????)
 

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@ and its all in short, "terrorist camps are being run by the opposition party, BJP/RSS, but no action taken by Shinde, who became Home Minister without any proper background for this high position and then he first made this statement in return of the the position he got. Digvijay's "Fake Batla House Encounter" to help the Western Media that India does 'fake' encounters against its minorities. its the Manmohan Singh's visit to North East by late 2011/ early 2012 and saying, "all the Bangladeshi infiltrators are also Indians", to fuel Sectarian Wars in India this way. Caste Divide and Rule organized since i came by late 2011 too. Rahul's struggle for 'english' in open etc., all started since i came here in mid 2011, including Sunny Leone was sent here to introduce a porn star in Bollywood to start a "cultural war", to promote of Single Mother Culture of Western Nations???? US/ UK infused their every strength on India since mid 2011, including sending people like Bill Gates/ Warren Buffet who could also contribute something for their governments. including killing two fisher men by the Italian Marines by the late 2011, which was mainly intended to unite the European Union against India for a reason, all started since i arrived in August 2011 and didn't back...... while i got the information that because of mine things were going wrong since 2007, but when i come here, no one receive me in India? but when i finally canceled my flight this time in mid 2012, then these manmohan/ sonia/ rahul/ pranab etc then directly started 'fighting' for US/ UK/ Australia/ Canada in India itself? all the attacks on the Indians during 2009-10 in these four countries was because of mine, including formation of Indian Muzahidin since May 2008, as per the information i got, but no one received me in India in 2009-10, and when i finally refused to go to a western country in 2012, then these four started fighting with me in India, in behalf of these four western countries???????) even India Media was showing the news by the late 2011 that, "US offered India help against China during 1972 war, while US and UK both sent their Aircraft Carriers to attack on India in 1972 war, and it was the Russian Nuclear Submarine which helped India during that war against US? i even counted 4 to 8 murders of Russian girls in Goa since 2010/11, and targeting few Russians in trample since 2011 itself? all the friends were being targeted for last 5-6 years and all the enemies became friends????

also we had one TV serial by Mr Amir Khan, Satya Mev Jayate, was organized to start since i came here in August 2011, in front of mine. and it was all about doing wrong publicity about India, based on lies. first i showed a episode while Amir Khan crying in front of all on TV as Indians living in US, beat their wife for 2 onions, as that man got less Dowery, while Indians are the richest community living in US??? again i was shown an article by Mr Amir Khan in Dainik Jagran about "Untouchables", which was also part of wrong campaign about India since i came here in August 2011, to help the enemies nation get a chance to attack on India for few reasons. and again he started "mal-nutrition" of Indian kids to help the western war champions down reputation of India on the world platform. while i found him doing all these as per the guidelines by the people handling him. and who they might be? then again i remember Mr Yashwant Sinha arguing Mr M.Singh, on TV shown to me in my home by the late 2011, that, "did we do destructive works during 1998-2004? didn't we do any constructive works?"

(while that BJP government first time achieved 8.0%+ growth during 2003-04, after 12 years of economic reforms in 1991, with 6.0%+ growth during their 6 years of BJP government 1998-2004, much higher growth during than the UPA's economic reforms during 1991 to 1997. even first nuclear test was done by Ms I.Gandhi under congress government in 1974, Smiling Buddha, while 1998 nuclear was in fact delayed by Mr Rao, which then BJP had to do under guidelines of Mr A.Kalam itself.... BJP had all the economic sanctions since then, with fall of ASEAN economies since 1998 which also affect the growth. Kargil war in 1999, military stand off in 2001, biggest drought during of 80 year in 2002, but still that Vajpayee Government during 1998 to 2004 could have 6.0% growth rate during their 6 years of government in India, much higher than that of 1991 to 1997...... and we do know that since then only India could have 8.0%+ growth rate, due to the projects started during that Vajpayee's government, and the changes made during that period which finally brought Indian economy to this level, to 8.0%+ growth????)

i have modified my above statement as below, to provide the best information for the way things were organized by the government agencies around mine, as below :thumb:

@ Giving Another Chance to the Snakes
its all in short, "terrorist camps are being run by the opposition party, BJP/RSS, but no action taken by Shinde, who became Home Minister without any proper background for this high position and then he first made this statement in return of the the position he got. Digvijay's "Fake Batla House Encounter" to help the Western Media that India does 'fake' encounters against its minorities, Hindu groups behind Mumbai attack. its the Manmohan Singh's visit to North East by late 2011/ early 2012 and said, "all the Bangladeshi infiltrators are also Indians", to fuel Sectarian Wars in India this way. Caste Divide and Rule organized since i came by late 2011 too. Rahul's struggle for 'english' in open etc., all started since i came here in mid 2011, including Sunny Leone was sent here to introduce a porn star in Bollywood to start a "cultural war", to promote of Single Mother Culture of Western Nations..... US/ UK infused their every strength on India since mid 2011, including sending people like Bill Gates/ Warren Buffet who could also contribute something for their governments. including killing two fisher men by the Italian Marines, which was mainly intended to unite European Union against India for a reason, all started since i arrived in August 2011 and didn't back...... while i got information that because of mine things were going wrong since 2007, but when i come here, no one receive me in India? but when i finally canceled my flight, then these all manmohan/ sonia/ rahul/ pranab etc then directly started 'fighting' for US/ UK/ Australia/ Canada in India itself? all the attacks on the Indians during 2009-10 in these four countries was because of mine, including formation of Indian Muzahidin since May 2008, as per the information i got, but no one received me in India in 2009-11. but when i finally refused to go to a western country in 2012, then these four started fighting with me in India itself, in behalf of these four western countries?????) even India Media was showing the news by the late 2011 that, "US offered India help against China during 1972 war, while US and UK both sent their Aircraft Carriers to attack on India in 1972 war, and it was the Russian Nuclear Submarine which helped India during that war against US? i even counted 4 to 8 murders of Russian girls in Goa since 2010/11, and targeting few Russians in trample in 2011 itself? all the friends were being targeted for last 5-6 years and all the enemies became friends? is there any country except Russia which ever used Veto in UN to support India, including all the Defence/ space research, key help on other issues too? in fact, Russia/SU used highest number of Veto's in favor of India itself, whenever US/UK/West tried to trap India on the world platform......

also we had one TV serial by Mr Amir Khan, Satya Mev Jayate, was organized to start since i came here in August 2011, in front of mine. and it was all about doing wrong publicity about India, based on lies. first i was showed a episode while Amir Khan crying in front of all on TV as Indians living in US, beat their wife for 2 onions, as that man got less Dowery, while Indians are the richest community living in US? again i was shown an article by Mr Amir Khan in Dainik Jagran about "Untouchables", which was also part of wrong campaign about India since i came, to help the enemy nations get a chance to attack on India for few reasons. and again he started "Mal-nutrition" of Indian kids to help the western war champions down reputation of India on the world platform. while i found him doing all these as per the guidelines by the people handling him. and who they might be? then again i remember Mr Yashwant Sinha arguing Mr M.Singh, on TV shown to me in my home by late 2011, that, "did we do destructive works during 1998-2004? didn't we do any constructive works?"

(while that BJP government first time achieved 8.0%+ growth during 2003-04, after 12 years of economic reforms in 1991, with 6.0%+ growth during their 6 years of BJP government 1998-2004, much higher growth during than UPA's economic reforms during 1991 to 1997. even first nuclear test was done by Mrs I.Gandhi under congress government in 1974, Smiling Buddha, while 1998 nuclear was in fact delayed by Mr Rao, which then BJP had to do under guidelines of Mr A.Kalam itself? BJP had all the economic sanctions since then, with fall of ASEAN economies in 1998 which also affect the growth. Kargil war in 1999, military stand off in 2001, biggest drought of 80 year in 2002, but still that Vajpayee Government could have 6.0% growth rate during their 6 years of 1998 to 2004, much higher than that of 1990 to 1997. and we do know that since then only India could have 8.0%+ growth rate, due to the projects started during that Vajpayee's government, and the changes made during that period which finally brought Indian economy to this level, to 8.0%+ growth by 2003-04.)
 

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What homeland security in India are we talking about?

Khurshed, MMS are more busy appeasing those who threaten the very security of the homeland!
 

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What homeland security in India are we talking about?

Khurshed, MMS are more busy appeasing those who threaten the very security of the homeland!

Stronger Systems of India is the only solution of handicapped Indian politics
India will rise and fall by the quality of the sum total of her many millions. Individuals, however high they may be, are of no account except in so far as they represent the many millions. :wave:

Mahatma Gandhi : Selected Letters
sir we grew up, studied etc to get higher success in life, while being in India, with hoping it to be a successful country too. and we are always responsible to contribute in society, as a civilian, if we have something to say which may help the country. the country, where we got enough opportunity to get success for our personal life.......

and my this thread is mainly intended to highlight the major issues related to homeland security. with rise of India, it has qualified on the next level, BRIC, and it has got new challenges. new technologies have been introduced, not just to help the systems of this country but for those people have got technologies who want to destroy this country, keep this country on the gun point always, who are indians and foreigners both.........

and the very first issue with the Homeland Security is related to poor leadership. either by willingness or unwillingness, our politicians have been the source to help the enemies of this country, as discussed in my last post#45 . and as we have professional attitude, we want solution of this problem, when our politicians start working against this country itself, by knowing or unknowingly. and i have enough to say in this regard, i tried to mention my experience in less words in my last post#45, along with my experience in Australia too, as discussed in my other posts of this thread too..... providing information is the very first responsibility of a civilian, and then its the government agencies who have to do their work, whether Indian government agencies or western :thumb:
(i do have anger due to the things on faced in the personal level, which can be seen in my posts too, but my intentions are always to contribute something very special, until i can't back on my main profession, until im involved someway.....)

and as i have myself found a solution of the issues related to leadership of India, my this thread is meant to confirm that, "don't let the country go on the hands of those shiits of Indian politics who win election by caste/ language/ religious etc politics :shoot:. there mustn't be any reason for destruction of this country, just because few people can become strong enough to create problems for 1.2billion+ population :nono:. we need our systems to be more and more stronger, and 'effective', which may put a control over those who may harm interests of India, the nation and its people as whole. key decisions may be taken "as a team" of any departments/ professionals 'only', while the politicians and bureaucrats are only the faces, who are responsible to make sure that the systems are working properly, 'ONLY', as discussed in my post#22, and also in other posts......".

and this way, no matter who is PM, Manmohan Singh or Narendra Modi, who is home minister and who is president etc, if our systems are stronger and effective, who may put anyone on trial/ on punishment, similar to former PM Mr PVN Rao too, then this country will only grow/ will be defended, as discussed before in this thread too :truestory:

rise and fall of India will be because of sum of her many millions, who are in form of engineers/ doctors/ business professionals/ businessmen/ security personals/ CAs, scientists etc, including politicians who may make this country proud by their combined efforts. we now need a "team work" by our systems as whole, to defend this country from those few people who may receive personal benefits to harm this country, who may result in destruction of this country, by knowingly or unknowingly :india: :truestory:


@ Giving Another Chance to the Snakes
its all in short, "terrorist camps are being run by the opposition party, BJP/RSS, but no action taken by Shinde, who became Home Minister without any proper background for this high position and then he first made this statement in return of the the position he got. Digvijay's "Fake Batla House Encounter" to help the Western Media that India does 'fake' encounters against its minorities, Hindu groups behind Mumbai attack. its the Manmohan Singh's visit to North East by late 2011/ early 2012 and said, "all the Bangladeshi infiltrators are also Indians", to fuel Sectarian Wars in India this way. Caste Divide and Rule organized since i came by late 2011 too. Rahul's struggle for 'english' in open etc., all started since i came here in mid 2011, including Sunny Leone was sent here to introduce a porn star in Bollywood to start a "cultural war", to promote of Single Mother Culture of Western Nations..... US/ UK infused their every strength on India since mid 2011, including sending people like Bill Gates/ Warren Buffet who could also contribute something for their governments. including killing two fisher men by the Italian Marines, which was mainly intended to unite European Union against India for a reason, all started since i arrived in August 2011 and didn't back...... while i got information that because of mine things were going wrong since 2007, but when i come here, no one receive me in India? but when i finally canceled my flight, then these all manmohan/ sonia/ rahul/ pranab etc then directly started 'fighting' for US/ UK/ Australia/ Canada in India itself? all the attacks on the Indians during 2009-10 in these four countries was because of mine, including formation of Indian Muzahidin since May 2008, as per the information i got, but no one received me in India in 2009-11. but when i finally refused to go to a western country in 2012, then these four started fighting with me in India itself, in behalf of these four western countries?????) even India Media was showing the news by the late 2011 that, "US offered India help against China during 1972 war, while US and UK both sent their Aircraft Carriers to attack on India in 1972 war, and it was the Russian Nuclear Submarine which helped India during that war against US? i even counted 4 to 8 murders of Russian girls in Goa since 2010/11, and targeting few Russians in trample in 2011 itself? all the friends were being targeted for last 5-6 years and all the enemies became friends? is there any country except Russia which ever used Veto in UN to support India, including all the Defence/ space research, key help on other issues too? in fact, Russia/SU used highest number of Veto's in favor of India itself, whenever US/UK/West tried to trap India on the world platform......

also we had one TV serial by Mr Amir Khan, Satya Mev Jayate, was organized to start since i came here in August 2011, in front of mine. and it was all about doing wrong publicity about India, based on lies. first i was showed a episode while Amir Khan crying in front of all on TV as Indians living in US, beat their wife for 2 onions, as that man got less Dowery, while Indians are the richest community living in US? again i was shown an article by Mr Amir Khan in Dainik Jagran about "Untouchables", which was also part of wrong campaign about India since i came, to help the enemy nations get a chance to attack on India for few reasons. and again he started "Mal-nutrition" of Indian kids to help the western war champions down reputation of India on the world platform. while i found him doing all these as per the guidelines by the people handling him. and who they might be? then again i remember Mr Yashwant Sinha arguing Mr M.Singh, on TV shown to me in my home by late 2011, that, "did we do destructive works during 1998-2004? didn't we do any constructive works?"

(while that BJP government first time achieved 8.0%+ growth during 2003-04, after 12 years of economic reforms in 1991, with 6.0%+ growth during their 6 years of BJP government 1998-2004, much higher growth during than UPA's economic reforms during 1991 to 1997. even first nuclear test was done by Mrs I.Gandhi under congress government in 1974, Smiling Buddha, while 1998 nuclear was in fact delayed by Mr Rao, which then BJP had to do under guidelines of Mr A.Kalam itself? BJP had all the economic sanctions since then, with fall of ASEAN economies in 1998 which also affect the growth. Kargil war in 1999, military stand off in 2001, biggest drought of 80 year in 2002, but still that Vajpayee Government could have 6.0% growth rate during their 6 years of 1998 to 2004, much higher than that of 1990 to 1997. and we do know that since then only India could have 8.0%+ growth rate, due to the projects started during that Vajpayee's government, and the changes made during that period which finally brought Indian economy to this level, to 8.0%+ growth by 2003-04.)
 
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=> http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/politics-society/54361-nuclear-sellout-upa-ii.html#post790648

my personal experience always suggest that, Manmohan/ Sonia/ Rahul, including this Pranab Mukherjee work like spies of foreign nations......... my personal experience always suggest that western nations try to keep this country on control, but they don't really want to harm it. but it was always clear to me that these main 'four' people are only for the purpose to harm this country.....

while this Narendra Modi always seems to be a a duplicate man, who first made a proper damage to BJP itself, and now working in a set way to provide enough opportunities to those foreigners who may get a reason to mobilize the whole world against this country. its always clear that Narendra Modi as a prime minister will result in a serious geo-political losses for India on the world platform. i would support anyone from BJP for the post of PM, except this man Modi......
 

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India's Gravest Threat at Present

India has a Grave Threat from wrong ID holders of Pakistani Punjabis and Bangladeshis

my own years of experience always threaten me from the wrong ID people. they look like the same and then they get enter in any community due to the similar background

and two types of people i faced which have entered in two communities of India. one from Pakistan's Punjab state, who have close understanding of Punjabi Sikhs of India, many of these people have got Indian IDs from back door during 80s, got protection in mainly Canada/UK, including in other western countries as the refugee Sikhs, while they are mainly belonging to Pakistani Punjabi who have been frequently visiting to India too, to have local support from Indian Punjab to know the locality of Indian Punjab too, while they are already Punjabis of Pakistan, with having turbans like Sikhs......

and the second and the most dangerous threat India has at present is from Bangladeshi Muslims, who have typical anti-India thinking, mainly due to their religious background. they are dreaming for a Greater Bangladesh state, organizing attacks on the Bangladeshi Hindus and then they are sending Bangladeshi Muslims to India on the name of Hindus of Bangladesh and entering in India as refugees...... they have got little support from locals of West Bengal and North East too, and working in a set way to get their dream 'Greater Bangladesh', which will be a Nuclear Power too, as openly discussed by the Bangladeshi nationals on different forums.......

India is on a high threat from those who have entered in Punjab and West Bengal due to the similar language background, but having enemy attitude against India due to belonging to Pakistan and Bangladesh. many of them have got false IDs, have entered in Sikh and Hindu temples of Punjab and West Bengal too, and preparing an environment for a separate state, as Khalistan and Greater Bangladesh both. India is now on a high threat of false ID people, who have a good back up from those who are based in Western nations too, and how India will handle these false ID people, time will tell us :thumb:

thats what they dream for, as below, with covering the whole West Bengal and the rich North East states of India, with leaving Arunanchal Pradesh as they hope China would help them in this regard. while once i have responded, china always infiltrates in India and Indian military chase them sometimes too. but Chinese only terrorism affected state is Xinjiang and its coming from Pakistan, not from India and it will never be, they know this. and the same they won't like on the border of Greater Bangladesh too. neither Chinese top ally, Myanmar show any support for the Bangladeshi Muslims, neither Bangladeshi mobs show sympathy on the local Buddhists too. China would respond to this would be Greater Bangladesh project in the same way as the Buddhists of Myanmar respond to Bangladeshi Muslim migrants of Myanmar :ranger:

=> Uighurs and China's Xinjiang Region - Council on Foreign Relations


=> sir, its not about Identity Crisis type things, but until im part of the political involvements, i always find myself to be responsible to provide whatever best information i can from my side, and my last post about the India's Grave Threat is one of my key experience in this regard. Pakistani and Bangladeshi nationals are being used in mass to represent Indians in India and overseas, who have got Indian identity cards etc too.......

today i also discussed that, before Azmal Kasab was identified as a Pakistani Muslim, there used to be a doubt that the attackers might be Indian Hindus, who killed Mr Karkare too who was doing investigation of Sanjhauta express blasts, (which was in fact funded by pakistani sources itself, as per the investigation too........) Mumbai attack drama was planned in a way to first attack on the prime places like Taj Hotel to bring attention of whole world, and then it switched to killing people on the local Shivaji Railway station to organize Hindu-Muslims riots. as, why that attack occurred if the attackers made no demand? why that attack was made to score so many in local railway station if they had already got a prime location like Taj/Obrai to negotiate??????

False ID people coming from Pakistan and Bangladesh are the biggest threat, this country is facing. see this same Ajmal Kasab as below, and Hindu Type Strings on his hands too in this pictures as below....... these False ID people are not just one like Azmal Kasab but they have come to India in many ways, have entered in politics too, if i believe in what i know. you got Azmal Kasab one time, the reason why Hindu-Muslim type local riots could be avoided during 2008, which could be similar to Hindu-Muslim riots in Mumbai in 90s itself. but the same won't happen the next time, you won't get someone alive next time too to prove that they were never "Indian Muzahidin". whether Muslim or Hindu, they were not qualified to be Indians by any way :nono:. these false ID people from Pakistan and Bangladesh, who enter in India to organize local riots to de-establize the nation, including representing Indians in Western countries too, is the biggest threat India is facing right now........






The Secret Plot to Blame India

Jundal's arrest exposes Pak's agenda of turning 26/11 into an Indian conspiracy

On May 21, 2009, Ajmal Amir Kasab, the sole surviving Pakistani gunman from the 26/11 attack, was giving evidence in the court of Justice M.L. Tahaliyani at Mumbai's Arthur Road prison. Suddenly, he dropped a name. The person, he said, who had been their principal guide during the 60-hour operation from a control room in Karachi was Abu Jundal. No one in India had heard this name. Some were puzzled. Prosecution lawyer Ujjwal Nikam believed it was misinformation. And, as so often, the name Abu Jundal disappeared into a file.

Three years later, on June 21, 2012, Saudi Arabia bundled a wanted Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) operative, Syed Zabiuddin Ansari, 30, on a plane and sent him to New Delhi. Ansari had more than one alias; among them was Abu Jundal. When Kasab, from his Mumbai cell, heard that Abu Jundal had been deported by the Saudis and was a captive in India, he became, say his jailors, contemplative. The final pieces of a complex puzzle was coming together. Perhaps the most deceptive element in the exhaustive planning that had gone into the barbaric terrorist attack on Mumbai, conceived by the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and implemented by LeT, was a poisonous sting in the tail. When the horror that took 166 lives was over, the ISI wanted to leave behind enough false trails to implicate Indians for its most spectacular offensive against India.

It was a plot in which Ansari was a key protagonist. Born in Gevrai village in Maharashtra's Beed district, he completed his matriculation and did an Industrial Training Institute course to become an electrician. He became an anti-India radical after the 2002 Gujarat riots and went into the shadows of terrorism, first joining the Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI), then the LeT.

Ansari came on the police radar for another plot against India, in transporting a shipment of 43 kg of RDX, 16 AK-47 assault rifles and 50 hand grenades to Aurangabad in 2006. This shipment, meant for a terror attack, was intercepted by the Maharashtra police. Under pressure, Ansari contacted LeT and fled to Pakistan. His name entered the public domain when the Indian Government handed over a list of 50 Most Wanted Fugitives to the Pakistani authorities in March 2007.

But Ansari was proving to be an invaluable asset for the LeT. A highly committed operative, he knew the layout of the land and directed terrorists during the attack on Mumbai on November 26, 2008. He was involved in plotting the blast at Pune's German Bakery on February 13, 2010, that killed 17 people. But still, India did not know of his role in the 26/11 attack. The breakthrough came in May 2010 when the Delhi Police intercepted a call from an India-based terrorist, Ajmal, who was in touch with his Pakistani handler. Ajmal had planned an attack on foreigners during the Commonwealth Games in Delhi that year. He referred to his handler as Abu Jundal. The agencies tracked Jundal down inside Pakistan. He was using the alias of Riyasat Ali and shuttled between LeT's headquarters in Muridke, near Lahore, and Karachi. Then they made a stunning discovery. Jundal, Riyasat Ali and Zabiuddin Ansari were the same person. Now they waited for their target to travel out of Pakistan.

In early 2011, Pakistan issued a passport to him, and sent him to Saudi Arabia to recruit potential jihadis from Indian labourers on behalf of LeT. In the oil-rich port of Dammam, Ansari ran a small taxi rental business, posing as Pakistani national Riyasat Ali. The US intelligence alerted the Saudis about Ansari's terrorist links; Riyadh put him under surveillance. Meanwhile, New Delhi provided the Arab kingdom with proof that Riyasat Ali was Zabiuddin Ansari, an LeT operative and originally an Indian citizen. DNA samples of his relatives were sent to the Saudi government even as the home ministry provided evidence of Ansari's involvement in the Aurangabad arms haul case. Islamabad, fearing that his deportation could explode their ploy of deniability, still maintained that he was a Pakistani citizen and wanted him back.

But the Saudis interrogated Ansari and discovered that he was indeed an LeT operative. They had to take a call. Should they stand by their long-time ally Pakistan and let Ansari remain in Dammam or stand by international law and hand him over to India? The Kingdom chose India.

At a safe house of the Delhi Police's Special Cell in the Capital's Lodhi colony, Ansari has been telling his interrogators details of the secret plot at the core of the deadly attack on Mumbai. The intent was to land a double sucker punch. The first blow would devastate Mumbai. The second blow would, with just enough 'evidence', promote conspiracy theories among a section of media, opinion makers and political leaders that Hindu militants were behind the carnage.

The conspiracy theorists didn't let Pakistan down. "There is more to it than meets the eye," former Maharashtra chief minister Abdul Rehman Antulay said outside the Lok Sabha on December 18, 2008, about the death of Maharashtra Anti-Terrorism Squad chief Hemant Karkare. Karkare, Additional Commissioner Ashok Kamte and Inspector Vijay Salaskar had been ambushed and killed by Ajmal Kasab and his accomplice Ismail Khan on November 26, 2008. Karkare was probing the Malegaon blasts, which had resulted in the arrests of Hindu fringe elements such as Lt-Col Shrikant Prasad Purohit, Sadhvi Pragya Thakur and Swami Aseemanand. Much of the Urdu press in India placed the blame for the attack on a diabolical Zionist-RSS nexus. Aziz Burney, group editor of leading Urdu newspaper Roznama Rashtriya Sahara blamed Hindu extremists. 'Is there any connection between the 26/11 attack and the Malegaon terror attack?' screamed a headline in the daily on November 29. 'This is a joint terror operation by Sangh Parivar and Mossad' said the Urdu Times of November 30, 2008. On December 5, Roznama Rashtriya Sahara ran another story: 'Who do you believe, Kasab the terrorist, or Karkare the martyr?' The paper hinted that the 26/11 attack was the work of Hindu fundamentalists and an elaborate plot to silence Karkare. 'Hindu terrorists are behind Mumbai attacks' said the Akhbare Mashriq on December 6, 2008. In September 2009, a retired Maharashtra inspector-general of police, S.M. Mushrif, in his book Who Killed Karkare?, blamed the Intelligence Bureau and Hindu extremists for 26/11.

The conspiracy theory was also enthusiastically bought by politicians who wanted to mine the Muslim vote. On December 6, 2010, senior Congress leader and former Madhya Pradesh chief minister Digvijaya Singh released Burney's book 26/11-RSS ki Saazish, which accused the RSS of planning and executing the 26/11 attack. Five days later, Singh claimed that Karkare had rung him up hours before he was gunned down and complained about threats and pressure from radical Hindu groups.
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Ansari's confessions have further unravelled the secret Pakistani plot. He told interrogators of his role in teaching the 26/11 attackers Hindi. He would give them Hindi magazines and conduct conversations with them to sharpen their language skills before they left Karachi. He taught the attackers to blend into India-greet people with a proper 'namaste', maintain a low profile and be polite to women. There were other aspects to this smokescreen-the terrorists were made to wear sacred red threads bought for Rupees 20 each by LeT scout David Coleman Headley from Mumbai's Siddhivinayak temple. All 10 terrorists carried fake identity cards of Arunodaya College, located in Hyderabad. They also took Hindu names. Ajmal Kasab became Sameer Choudhary and Ismail Khan was Naraish Verma. An LeT operative pretended to be 'Kharak Singh from India' and purchased Internet calling services from a US-based firm for USD250 (Rupees.10,000). The terrorists were told to communicate with their Karachi-based handlers using phones with Indian SIM cards.

The LeT, according to Ansari, monitored the attack from a specially created military-style command and control centre in Karachi, which was visited by LeT leaders and ISI officials. The control room had multiple television sets tuned into Indian TV channels, satellite telephones and computers. The handlers-Sajid Mir, Abu Al Qama, Abu Qahafa and Muzzammil-maintained constant communication with the 10 terrorists. Ansari tutored two of the LeT terrorists who had stormed into Nariman House on what to tell the Indian media in Hindi. He asked them to impersonate disgruntled Muslim youth. While doing this, he used a Hindi word prashaasan (administration). Indian intelligence agencies who tapped into the conversation were intrigued by the use of a Hindi word by a Pakistani controller.

Actually, Pakistan's web of deceit had begun imploding with the arrest of Headley, the LeT scout, by the US Federal Bureau of Investigation in June 2010. He told his Indian interrogators that the Pakistan Army and ISI were deeply involved in the 26/11 attack. He was in touch with two serving ISI officers, Major Iqbal and Major Samir Ali. Headley also made the chilling revelation that every senior LeT leader was "handled" by an ISI operative.

Ansari's interrogation brings fresh embarrassment for Pakistan. He has revealed the presence of Pakistan's ISI in the control room that the let set up to monitor and direct the attack. Ansari also clarified that the LeT has been unaffected by the arrest and ongoing trial of masterminds Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi and Zarar Shah at an anti-terrorist court in Rawalpindi's Adiala Jail. The organisation is still plotting fresh attacks against India. The LeT is widely believed to be a proxy arm of the Pakistan Army. Its battle against India spilled out from Jammu and Kashmir to the Indian mainland. It was designated a "Foreign Terrorist Organisation" by the US in 2001 but the Americans saw it as an international threat only after the 26/11 attack. In April this year, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton announced a $10 million (Rupees 50 crore) bounty for information leading to the arrest and capture of LeT supremo Hafiz Saeed.

What rankles Pakistan is that Ansari was arrested and deported by its closest ally, Saudi Arabia. The kingdom wields almost undiminished power over Pakistan's army and political establishment. Through the deportation of Ansari, it has indicated that it will no longer provide protection for Pakistan's terrorists. Another suspected terrorist, Fasih Mehmood of the Indian Mujahideen, has been detained by Saudi Arabia for his role in the twin blasts outside Bangalore's Chinnaswamy stadium on April 17, 2010. He faces imminent deportation to India.

Now that the conspiracy has been exposed, some of its original theorists have backtracked. Digvijaya Singh says he had already clarified about his post-26/11 comments. "There is nothing more to say. I am happy that Home Minister P. Chidambaram has upped the ante on the terror issue and has pressed Pakistan to admit facts relating to Jundal having trained terrorists who attacked Mumbai," he told India Today. Antulay called his November 27 statement "a genuine mistake". "Multiple theories were floating in the aftermath of the attack, especially the one revolving around the death of Karkare," he said.

Antulay admitted, however, that the Hindu terror angle had momentarily deflected the nation's attention from the LeT. Mushrif now refuses to comment because the 26/11 case is subjudice but says he never questioned Pakistan's role in the attack. "If someone wants to comment on this issue he should approach the court and seek a reinvestigation," he said. Burney's newspaper ran a front-page apology on January 29, 2010. Burney himself is, however, unapologetic and says many questions on 26/11 remain unanswered. Film producer-director Mahesh Bhatt says there is no denying Pakistan's involvement but refuses to believe the theories being floated by Indian investigators now and calls for a debate. "After the 9/11 attack, people in the US raised questions on the identity of the attackers. Nobody was apologetic about their views," he says.

Kavita Karkare, the widow of Hemant, believes recent developments have vindicated her stand that the attack was not an inside job. "I have been saying since the beginning that no Hindus are involved in it. Many people floated stories for political reasons. They fell flat," she says.

Pakistan, though, remains unapologetic even as it tries to distance itself from its Indian collaborator. On June 27, just a week after Ansari's arrival in India, Pakistan's Interior Minister Rehman Malik hurriedly called for a press conference. "Now things are getting clarified," Malik said. "Who knows if there was a sting operation by somebody from India?" Malik, while defending his army and the ISI, was silent on how Ansari, an Indian citizen, managed to get a Pakistani passport and a National Identity Card for Overseas Pakistanis. In the run-up to the July 4-5 foreign secretary-level talks between India and Pakistan in New Delhi, an anonymous source in the Pakistan foreign office told the media that 40 Indians were involved in the Mumbai attack.

Clearly, one Ansari has not dampened the spirit of the world's most dangerous benefactor of jihad. Wait for the next round of conspiracy theories, written and sold by Islamabad.

Jundal's arrest exposes Pak's agenda of turning 26/11 into an Indian conspiracy : Cover Story - India Today
 
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as discussed above, Hindu Kasab with red strings on the hands, while representing 'Indian' Muzahidin :rofl: :tsk:

and today i mentioned, i have mainly experience with those Pakistanis and Bangladeshis who came to Australian since late 2009 to represent Indians there, to fight in behalf of Indians in Australia, and then we had Western Media doing bluffs of dramas/ publicity to show the problems due to Indians. similarly, how Indian Muzahidin took birth by first bomb blast in May 2008, which continued till Mumbai attack 26/11 2008, and Western Media was involved in doing bluffs of publicity of 'Indian' Mujahidin, while all the bomb blasts in India during 2008 were handled by rogue elements of ISI :facepalm:

thats why i always confirmed that, "those who think they are God, their only strength lies in organizing bluffs/ lie/ cheat to get work done. their only strength lies in misguiding common people only." :wave:

and today i also remembered, how Sikhs based in UK/Britain were known to me as half of them having duplicate/ false ID holders Pakistani Punjabis, while being with Sikhs in UK, mainly in Canada.

and as i have direct experience of talking to the top positioned people, today I have confirmed from my side in my home that, "the biggest threat India facing from Bangladeshi false ID people right now, who are having typical enemy attitude towards India." its not Pakistan but the Bangladesh which has posed the Gravest threat to India at present. and if this Greater Bangladesh project will be a success in anyway, then it will be the biggest threat to US/West itself, which i have confirmed too. why? the people there and their home Sectarian Wars against the minorities of Bangladesh is being discussed in the thread as below:

=> http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...-bangladesh-has-turned-assam-explosive-2.html

as discussed in the above thread, obviously, if Bangladesh as a people start crushing minorities there in 50,000+ numbers on time to time, then they would do the same with rest of non Muslims too, including US/West, isn't it????? its also discussed in my one thread as below. and its must be confirmed that this type of Bangladeshi's dream to bomb US, and the man below is one of those common Bangladeshi people who have been a threat to Bangladeshi minorities itself......

=> http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...ers-discriminate-against-muslims-eu-us-4.html
 

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I am with you on your views.

I am just exhibiting my frustration, where even with all the best of intentions, the citizenry is taken to be only as vehicles that put them in power and forgotten thereafter for implementing issue with their own aggrandisation than caring for the Nation or the population therein!
 
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=> http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...-bangladesh-has-turned-assam-explosive-2.html

Considering Homeland security in North East region, as discussed in the above thread, I have proposed the following too to help Indians avoid Sectarian Wars/ destruction of North East region of India by the men of US/West:

Permanent Visa on Arrival for Bangladeshis in Italy and US

in fact, I have favored "Permanent Visa on Arrival" for Bangladeshis in Italy and US. as its simply make no sense that an Italian woman would help these Bangladeshis come to India in behalf of US's government and hence create problem for Indians this way, organize Sectarian Wars in India to finally destroy it. as i do remember, when i came to India in 2011, Manmohan Singh made a visit to North East and tried to defend illegal infiltration from Bangladesh by saying, "they all are Indians"......

I have seen many Italian waitresses in Sydney who just want to get settled in Australia someway, and keep smiling on anyone who comes to these Cafe's there. so we hope, Permanent Visa on arrival for Bangladeshi men in Italy, US will also help these Italian women get settled in Italy itself, as the 2nd/3rd or the 4th wife of Bangladeshi men and hence giving a boost to the Italian economy also this way :thumb:
 

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I am with you on your views.

I am just exhibiting my frustration, where even with all the best of intentions, the citizenry is taken to be only as vehicles that put them in power and forgotten thereafter for implementing issue with their own aggrandisation than caring for the Nation or the population therein!

India is now ruled by those who are themselves not Indian 'Identity Crisis'

sir, I have been caught with Identity Crisis type discussion for a very long, and i was involved on the basis of, "who I am?" even if Im good, its because of my Identity, and Im bad then its again because of my identity. and Western People living in "Slumdog Millionaire" mentality understand just on thing. if India is superior then they are inferior and this way all the Oscars to that movie also go waste :tsk:. similarly, if India is good then US/UK and their identity is bad........ just see that movie, made and funded by British, full of lies and only to give wrong information about India. its a certain concept of WEST by making that man a milionair, on the fact that, just say few wrong about India, answer the related questions to say why it is a wrong country, and become millionaire :facepalm:

and i was caught with a certain thinking that, this man is an Indian Identity Crisis. do whatever you want but he does the work for India. you can't buy him, as he is not "corrupt enough" to go against his Identity/ nation of brith. and i was targetted on the concept that, when two militaries are on face to face on the border, then they generally shoot down each others, regardless both of them might be 'good' people, but belonging to different 'identities', and don't care while killing each others on the border.....

and here, i always found that Manhoman, Sonia, Rahul, Pranab M, are not Indians :nono:. they are not the people, having that type of "Indentity Crisis" who may be taken as a target by those who hate India :nono:. (while i have seen a considerable change in this Modi also during last 2 years, who always make those statements which may help the foreigners to attack on this country for a reason, the religion. or, he in fact keep promoting Rahul too. just check his speeches, many times he shows his 'jealous' with Rahul???? something like, Modi is happy in either case, he or rahul?????)

India is now ruled by those who are themselves not Indian 'Identity Crisis' :nono:. those are trying to become fate of india, who are on the fingures of those western People, who hate india........

and there is only one way to handle this issue, as advides by Mr gandhi too as below :thumb:

India will rise and fall by the quality of the sum total of her many millions. Individuals, however high they may be, are of no account except in so far as they represent the many millions. :wave:

Mahatma Gandhi : Selected Letters
 
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I think each one is an Indian, but then to his or her idea of being Indian.

Indeed, being an Indian does not mean you are dedicated totally to the Nation, but that much wherein you serve your self interest and yet force your conscience to believe that you are doing it all for the Nation.

I think that all humans are self serving and the concept of self sacrifice for a concept is not total as it should be in a bareboned sense of the concept of a National dedicated without reservation to the Nation.
 
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I think each one is an Indian, but then to his or her idea of being Indian.

Indeed, being an Indian does not mean you are dedicated totally to the Nation, but that much wherein you serve your self interest and yet force your conscience to believe that you are doing it all for the Nation.

I think that all humans are self serving and the concept of self sacrifice for a concept is not total as it should be in a bareboned sense of the concept of a National dedicated without reservation to the Nation.

sir, those who can't see your country a success/ those who hate you because of your identity/ planning attacks on this country, buying corrupts of india to destroy this country, are mainly based in US/WEST, mainly the british rulers :wave:

"being inferiority is the biggest blame and they are with every strength to fight with growing condition imposed on them in this world." their only proud for being a white/christian/western, and struggle for hardly $30,000+ salary, and seeing the 'inferior' people of india, having high qualified officers sitting inside and the western labors outside as they can't buy expansive drinks, all have resulted in a "Hate Crime" against india and its people......

if you accept the "problem" then you will find its solution, otherwise, terrorism in india is being contuining by western fund. nothing would result in any outcome, thats we both know. its similar to terrorism India had during 80s/90s, people will die/ women are raped to make them equal to unmarried mothers of western nations. government resources of india is being wasted, but it all will get fixed up with time :thumb:

At this point, an astounding 53 percent of all American workers make less than $30,000 a year. :toilet:

40 'Frightening' Facts On The Fall Of The US Economy | Zero Hedge
Indians, who now number 3.18 millions, the third largest after the Chinese (4 million) and the Filipinos (3.4 million) have a median household annual income of $88,000, much higher than for all Asians ($66,000) and all US households ($49,800).

The share of unmarried mothers was much lower among Indian Americans (2.3 percent) than among all Asian Americans (15 percent) and the population overall (37 percent). :toilet:

Indian Americans top in income and education - NY Daily News | NewsCred SmartWire


they are simply fighting with those who may "kill" them, backed by their Western/White/Christian belief, and sooner you understand, better you will be prepared for those shiits, who want to make everyoen a shiit like them :thumb:

 
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I think that all humans are self serving and the concept of self sacrifice for a concept is not total as it should be in a bareboned sense of the concept of a National dedicated without reservation to the Nation.

things on the ground level is so bad in US, that, its not the fact that 53% workers there struggle to have $30,000+ salary in US, (where prices are already high, like, minimum $3.0+ for a coffee, $12+ for one time food etc.). but in fact, only 63% working age people of US have any type of source of Income, (which excludes house wives/ students/ early retired people too), as discussed in the post #10 of the thread as below too :toilet:
and the US's sponsored terrorism in different parts of world, including in India, is mainly because of their concerns to maintain food supply in either way/ flow of money from other diffeent countries in either way :tsk: :facepalm:

=> http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...-high-debt-weaken-economy-hurt-americans.html


its very similar to the case when, local labors want to enslave the officers sitting in, those who can't have better future by their own, they want to fight more wars in others countries to get something done, "at any case". its a certain case when you don't have many options to maintain food supply in future/ not enough hope in future and before the economy fall completely, they want to get something done in rest of the world, "anyhow", as discussed in the post#27 of this same thread as below :toilet:

=> http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...igh-debt-weaken-economy-hurt-americans-2.html
 
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I think each one is an Indian, but then to his or her idea of being Indian.
"being inferiority is the biggest blame and they are with every strength to fight with growing condition imposed on them in this world." their only proud for being a white/christian/western, and struggle for hardly $30,000+ salary, and seeing the 'inferior' people of india, having high qualified officers sitting inside and the western labors outside as they can't buy expansive drinks, all have resulted in a "Hate Crime" against india and its people......

if you accept the "problem" then you will find its solution, otherwise, terrorism in india is being contuining by western fund. nothing would result in any outcome, thats we both know. its similar to terrorism India had during 80s/90s, people will die/ women are raped to make them equal to unmarried mothers of western nations. government resources of india is being wasted, but it all will get fixed up with time :thumb:

further to my last post#55, its a certain case when the labors sitting outside want to enslave the officers sitting in. i do remember, once i had proposed in WMA Ltd in 2008 that, i may take all the files and laptops and go to the workshop, if this may solve the "problem". (how could i continu eworking while watching people making horns from my cabin, which was put on the side of the streets itself. on the top floor but i could clearly see the cars coming and keep making horns, as guided.)

and as discussed in the post as below too, the "Western Pig Class" has a certain meaning, a certain type of pigs you are dealing with, who just can't have any profession, as they are simply not qualified enough for that. a certain Hand to Mouth Generation but they want to maintain superiority with whatever they can, and organizing terrorism with others/ in other countries is the best they can think, as per my experience.......

Western Pig Class, a 'Characteristic' Hand to Mouth Generation

sir I would tell you a basic thing in this regard, when a kid of an Australian goes for date with his/her partner even since schooling, they proud to say that now their kids are also dating, like how they have changed with 20+ in their own life. and this way, the time Indian youth spent for very hard work to get something done in life/career, that certain time is spent by the Western kids in enjoying life with fullest..........

when I was doing my part time MBA in Sydney, we used to have discussions about the 'competent' products, to have 'competitive advantage', while we find only one competition in the Australian schools, that is, who can have how good bodies to impress girls and have sex with more and more girls. this does help them performing good on the side of sports, but a labor is only a labor, a certain 'Hand to Mouth' Category person, and this is what the Western Rulers have done with their society...............

but I saw a very special 'Character' in this Hand to Mouth Class of West, the Western Pig Class I have defined, which I estimated around 70% of total population of Australia, 80% of UK and around 80% of US too, i guessed..... when too many attacks were going on with the International students in Australia in 2009/10, few were sent to me to discuss, how those under class 6th/7th passed local Australians then became superior to the International students doing Master level engineering/medicines/management this way? and I passed my message to Australian politicians that time, that, "Bluff of Superiority, based of publicity of greatness, without any credibility or proper educational background....."

and the same I saw in the Work Shop of the companies I worked, that local whites were intended to prove that there is one way, why they are superior to the person sitting on the top floor in my cabin, that is because of their racial/western feeling with religious touch, while working in behalf of their rulers :tsk:

and this is the certain "Western Pig Class" I have discussed before, who usually work for 3-4 days for hardly $16 to $20/hour casual jobs and spend all on weekends, and involved in discussing different War Politics, in terms of racial war/political war/ culture war/ religious war/ economical war/trade war etc. and I did notice a 'right' reason for that, that is, people like Tony Blair, John Howard, Tony Blair, G.W.Bush and other retired president and PMs of Western Nations have clearly understood that their new generation may only be used for different types of Wars, based on "Hate Crimes", only........ :facepalm:

I used to get a clear information in Australia, while sitting in my cabin on top floor and keep watching people making horns on the streets from my window, that, Mr Rudd, Ms Gillard, Mr Howard type people do know that if their coming generation want to work to feed themselves only and spend all on weekends, without any career or direction in life, then their free time can only be utilized for organizing 'Hates' for high qualified migrants....


=> after doing my BE in Mechanical Engineering from a government college in India, I did my Master of Engineering and Master of Engineering Management from University of Technology Sydney, which is ranked around 25th/26th in among the Technical Institutes of world by QS Global, when we shortlist only their 5 Star Rating technical institutes. then it was more intended to do higher studies from a college whose degrees is more recognized than any of the Indian technical institute, as in 2002, when I visited there. UTS is located in the heart of Sydney City, the only city university, the 3rd ranked financial center of Asia Pacific in 2002, after Tokyo and Singapore, then it was more intended to have the best recruitment after completion of my Masters. and with my Master of Engineering, I first did my Master of Engineering Management as I was first willing to have engineering experience and then move to Management positions in an engineering firms, the 'plan' I had in 2002 before moving to Sydney. and when I joined Sydney University again in 2009 for part time MBA in Project Management then it was mainly to have one more degree in projects management areas as I had gained around 4 years of Projects Engineering experience till 2009 in Australia itself.......... and from here, now compare my professional life with a common Western civilian, how much they plan for their career??????

I do remember that Western Media had finally defined it as "Hate Crimes" in 2009/10 :wave:

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...s-rank-top-education-income-4.html#post632842
 
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Terrorist or CIA agent? Maybe both?
December 22, 2009

US citizen David Headley, who was arrested in connection with last year's Mumbai terrorist attacks, may have been a double agent for the CIA at the time of the incident, according to US journalists. :usa:

More than 160 people were killed in the financial hub of Mumbai in three days of attacks by a group of 10 gunmen, beginning on November 26, 2008.

Headley had allegedly helped plan the attack by conducting reconnaissance missions in Mumbai. :ranger:

More than two months after Pakistani-American jihadist David Headley was held in Chicago, India's intelligence services are divided on whether they were told the whole truth about the Lashkar-e-Taiba clandestine agent's operations.

Many in the intelligence services even suspect that the United States is less than committed to letting the whole truth be known.:facepalm:

Public debate has focused on claims that Headley—who served as a Drug Enforcement Administration informant after being arrested with two kg of heroin in 1988—may have been planted by US covert services inside Lashkar after his release in 2002.

"If this David Headley was working for the CIA all along, which is a very plausible conclusion," says writer and journalist Webster Tarpley, "It means that the CIA implicated and was running and masterminding the Mumbai terror attack of 2008."

Terrorist or CIA agent? Maybe both? — RT USA



=> David Colemann Headley Is A CIA-FBI Agent
18 October, 2010

The Government should be ashamed at the treatment being meted out to India by the US. It is clear that Headley is a mass murderer & is being protected & shielded by the Obama Administration. :usa: Leave alone being extradited, now Attorney-General Eric Holder tells us that that our security agencies will have no direct access to Headley at all. This is very clear from the statements of Timothy J. Roemer (US Ambassador) who stated that "no decision on direct access for India to David Headley has been made." Though now due to the anger of the Indian people, certain statements of granting access to Headley are being made. Not that interrogating Headley, while he remains ion US custody will help our cause.

Recent revelations confirm the fact that David Coleman Headley is a CIA-FBI operative whose task was to organize & expedite the Mumbai 26/11 terror attacks. Thus the role of the CIA, FBI & Mossad in fomenting & planning the Mumbai 26/11 terror attacks are proved beyond doubt & need to be investigated by the patriotic elements within the security apparatus & the media. Only the naive & corrupt can continue to deny this fact, more so to the detriment of our national sovereignty & security.

David Headley is a CIA asset & they have invested a lot of their precious resources in training him & therefore they are going to atrocious levels to protect him. The CIA always does. Thus under the cover of the American Judicial system, Headley will disappear into the prisons, soon acquire a new identity, new papers & documents, passports & Visas, Credit Cards & Bank Accounts . . . a new identity & will resurface, doing what he is best at, a terrorist-drug dealer-mercenary.

Undoubtedly, the CIA-FBI, which are the world's leading mercenary agencies, whose forte is too engineer assassinations, terror & wars, has infiltrated sections of the Indian political leadership & our internal security, as it has the Pakistani ISI, Military & Political establishment.

Thus now the US intervention & occupation of the South Asian region is deepening by the day, as it keeps on increasing the tensions between India & Pakistan as well as China. It is an old imperial ploy of divide & rule along religious & sectarian lines as well as between nations. :uk:

The terror attack Mumbai 26/11, was directed at all of South Asia & this point must be understood by all those who are committed to the cause of South Asia.

The 26/11 terror attack has only aided the US/Israeli effort to create an atmosphere conducive to increasing its pervasive & corrupting influence in determining both our National & International policies. Very true indeed!!

Now the newspapers are clearly raising the issue of Headley being a CIA-FBI operative, a fact that we had stated initially as soon as the story appeared. The reports also state that the CIA was aware about the Headley-Rana linkage! Indian authorities had suspected that Headley was a CIA agent. There are taped conversations between Headley & Rana.

Moreover, the simple fact of the matter is that Headley is involved in the terror attack & should be immediately extradited to the Indian authorities for interrogation & should be tried & sentenced like Kasab (who is a mere foot-soldier & his trial is a contrived circus, despite all the media attention)

In the news report that appeared in the Indian Express (pg 5, 10/12/09), the hotel owner is openly blaming the police for having 'misplaced' Headley's 'C-form' & has filed a complaint on the matter. The hotel owner in his complaint to the Ajmer Superintendent of Police, has stated that he had also submitted the C-forms of two other Israelis along with that of Headley.

So why was Headley arrested by the FBI? The answer to that is that Indian Intel was hard on the heels of Headley & were about to arrest him. It was then that the FBI whisked away Headley to protect him. Now that he has been subjected to the laws of the US judicial system, he is beyond our reach. Leave alone a trial for Headley's central role in the 26/11 attacks, we do not even have the right to interrogate him.

In fact it is suspected that, it was Headley who was the CIA mole in the LeT, who was passing out information on the coming 26/11 terror attack. This was partly shared by the CIA with the Indian authorities & had specifically mentioned the Taj & that the attack would come by sea.

There are two significant points to note:

1) How much information did the CIA actually divulge to India - very very meagre it is clear.

2) More intriguingly with the Pakistani authorities & it's friends in the ISI & the Military with which the CIA has a very deep & intimate relationship, stretching over 6 decades - it supposedly shared none !!!

Any moron is full aware that a 26/11 style attack could lead to a war, in fact a nuclear war between India & Pakistan, then why did not the CIA warn it's friends on either side & thus prevent the attack ??

For the simple reason that it is in the strategic interests of the US & Israel to create a warlike situation across South Asia. The larger objective is for India to mobilise & deploy it's military into the war theatre in Afghanistan if required & later in the coming war on Iran, which is imminent. The tensions & warmongering has now fuelled an arms race & both the countries are amongst the top buyers of weapons, required to protect their half-starving masses.

Also do note that during the phase of the worst series of terror attacks between 2006-08, Headley was present in that period & was flying into India mainly from Pakistan. Yet our authorities did not once suspect or interrogate him?? Unfortunately the Indian People are not that naive. This clearly means that there are certain forces within the country that are allied to the US & Israel & working in tandem to foment terror attacks.

Do especially note the period between August 2007 & September 2008 as this was during which we passed through the worst national crisis over the Indo-US Nuclear Deal. The attacks coincide with Headleys' presence in India (Josy Joseph, 17/11/09, DNA ). The terror attacks in Hyderabad II (25/8/07), Bangalore (25/7/08), Ahmedabad & Surat (26/7/08) & Delhi (13/9/08). All these blasts made it easier for the pro-US elements to take the country into the American-Israeli strategic orbit in the name of fighting the global war on terror.

Again even the blasts that Shri Hemant Karkare has traced to the Abhinav Bharat, find a relation to Headley's footprints. Thus he is present during Malegaon (8/9/06), Samjhauta Express (19/2/07), Mecca Masjid, Hyderabad I (18/5/07).

Thus clearly Headley was also co-ordinating his attacks with the Abhinav Bharat & Sanatan Sanstha as well as with the Indian Mujahedeen (which is a creation of Intel services comprising criminals & informers from within the Muslim community).

We thus can infer the following from the latest revelation:

1) David Headley's trail as he traveled across the country to & identify the sites for terror attacks was & is being covered up by the police on the instructions of the pro-CIA/Mossad sections of the Intelligence Bureau.

2) This was the similar case in the city of Mumbai, where Headley's membership form at the 'Moksh Gymnasium' had both his photograph & signature 'missing'. The flat which he rented on Bridge Candy has no agreement papers & so is the case with his office in Tardeo.

3) The fact that the hotel owner also submitted two forms of Israeli's on that day, also could mean that Headley was also being guided by Mossad agents to identify Jewish targets, which they finally did & thus Nariman House.

4) Headley's very entry into the country has been managed with the connivance of the authorities at the highest levels. And thus even though Headley was a drug dealer having faced a jail sentence, Pakistani born, could still manage to get a clearance. Also do note that he was travelling directly via Pakistan into India. The clearance of his Visa from the Indian Consulate in Chicago actually requires criminal proceedings against the Indian Consul general, the Indian Ambassador & the Minister & the concerned officers in the Home Ministry in Delhi. That was the reason that the authorities panicked & said that Headley's papers at the Chicago Consulate had gone missing. They later found them. With changed signatures, we guess!

5) It is clear that after working for the US Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA), Headley was later was recruited & trained by the CIA-FBI.

6) The CIA-FBI then used Headley in their plan to execute the 26/11 attack in Mumbai. Headley's task was to travel across the country, identify the targets & provide information to his CIA-FBI handlers. It was the CIA-FBI who then passed the information onto their ISI / LeT contacts in Pakistan.

7) Headley's role was also to draw in his LeT contacts to plan the 26/11 terror attacks.

8) The IB, that has been colluding with the CIA-FBI, instructed it's plants within the police force to cover Headley's trail, which they dutifully performed as is the case both in Mumbai & in Pushkar.

Thus as our inference on the Headley matter is the following:

a) It proves the fact that David Headley was a CIA-FBI agent sent to India to assist in the preparation & implementation of the Mumbai 26/11 terror attacks.

b) The US intelligence, led by the CIA-FBI & the Israeli MOSSAD played a central role in co-ordinating the attack & America is complicit in the planning, financing & execution of the Mumbai 26/11 terror attacks.

c) The CIA-FBI used their LeT / ISI agents in Pakistan to implement the same

d) Similarly the CIA-FBI along with certain elements within the Intelligence-Security apparatus & organizations within India were instrumental in fomenting the terror attack.

Undoubtedly the larger strategic objectives of the Imperial gameplan are being achieved, out of which one was to establish the CIA-FBI & Mossad as our allies & thus penetrate & undermine our external & internal security structures.

Just imagine, the CIA-FBI & Mossad are the sword arms of the Imperial project & not a whimper of protest from the secular-liberals or from the anti-Imperialist Left. Even the Obama Af-Pak surge has been barely opposed even though it deepens the US occupation of the South Asian region.

This only goes to prove as to how successful the Imperial strategy has been in creating an atmosphere for US meddling & intervention across South Asia & in neutralising the Left, Bahujans & the Muslim community by systematically promoting Islamophobia by deploying the weapon of terror.

But the Indian masses are far smarter & both the issues of the planned assassination of Shaheed Hemant Karakare & the Headley episode, have helped the People arrive at their own independent conclusions despite the disinformation campaigns unleashed by the pro-US/israeli elements within the Indian Government & the Corporate Media.

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Ministers and Bureaucrats/ Diplomats are only the "FACES" of the Society and their departments

They are only the 'paid' servants for the purpose of their job

my above post has a simple meaning that, "President-PM-Ministers, including bureaucrats/diplomats are nothing but the paid servants to serve the people who feed them by taxes. they are only the 'faces' of the society-departments, they belong to, and for the purpose to serve the people who have appointed them, the common civilians........"

and the time any of the 'face' of their concerned departments doesn't do his/her work, he/she would be straight kicked, punished for violating the concerning laws related to his/her job, no matter which party comes in power, and who is the PM-President-Minister-Secretary etc :wave:

India needs to give more and more strength to its systems, which would be more linked with each others to achieve the common goal, and these 'faces' are responsible to make sure that they represent the 'systems', which are for the purpose to serve the common public of India, for what they receive salaries :india:

Ministers-Bureaucrats ('FACES') may only represent the Systems/ the concerning departments

They are responsible to make sure that the Systems are running Properly, 'ONLY'

Minister-Bureaucrats having Arts Subjects in IAS exams-Politics can't interfere in any of the professional departments, related to engineering-economics-finance-strategic issues-defence-trade-foreign relations etc

the 'FACES' of a country, Ministers/Bureaucrats, who mainly have Arts Studies, are only the paid servants who do their jobs in return of the salaries they receive from the Tax Payers of a country, including India. and this also means that they will be brought on punishment if they will misuse government resources for their personal benefits..... Mr N.Rao would be taken as an example for these new faces to confirm that even being Prime Minister is not enough to avoid punishment, if they fails to comply with the laws, if they fails to do their jobs honestly, for what these ministers/bureaucrats receive salaries from the tax money of Indian civilians :shoot:

India-us homeland security dialogue Two day conference of police chiefs concludes
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New Delhi: The first two-day India-US Homeland Security dialogue- Police Chiefs Conference organized by the Ministry of Home Affairs concluded here today.

Delivering the valedictory address at the Conference, the Union Home Secretary Shri Anil Goswami said that the movement of people, goods and ideas has always driven with the development of nations and provided opportunities for economic growth and prosperity. He said that the security measures should be designed to facilitate the safe and efficient movement of people and goods while securing the critical infrastructure.

Shri Goswami further said that the increasing use of digital networks and information and communication technology provides opportunities but also poses a security threat to data and computer systems. He said that there is a need for security co-operation between India and USA, which faces this challenge due to a larger number of computer and internet users in the two countries. In the area of cyber security, he emphasized the need to strengthen the security environment to facilitate e-commerce, e-banking and day-to-day activities covering the financial services, power industry, telecommunications industry and public services. :truestory: He expressed his satisfaction on the deliberations in the Conference which focused on the need for a healthy combination of technology, building security infrastructure and the need to synchronize the domestic laws with the global standards. He said that the service providers play a very important role in the investigations of cyber crimes and most of the service providers are based in USA. It would be important to strengthen the process of legal assistance so as to speed up the investigations and promote legal mechanisms that encourage co-operation in cyber crime matter, he added.

The Home Secretary said that the great potential exists for co-operation not only between the authorities of the two countries but also between the technology and business partners, who are expected to play a crucial role in finding technology enabled solutions to the unique challenges of modern policing. :india: :usa:

Shri Goswami said that the partnership in the areas of use of sophisticated technology, training and capacity building, forensics, solutions for chemicals, radiological, biological and nuclear threats, technological support system for underground metro stations tunnels, track security, behavior detection and IT solutions to manage security contingencies need to the further strengthened.

During the two day Conference, seven brainstorming sessions covering Response to Mass Casualty Event; Maritime security and Law enforcement (passengers and Cargo security); Surveillance and Command Control in urban policing; Security and Law enforcement in Mass transit system; Lawful interception and investigations; Crime investigations and Forensics and Community policing were organized.

There were presentations by Police Chiefs and Senior Officers of the Department of Homeland Security from the US side and by Senior Police and Government officers from Indian side.

The conference was attended by U.S. delegation consisting of Police Chiefs from major cities and their technology partners. Important speakers from the USA were Mr. Stu Frome, Deputy Chief of Staff FLETC, Mr. Dan Oates, Chief, Aurora Police Department, Colorado, Mr. Michael P. Downing, Deputy Chief, LA Police Department, Mr. Erik Aubin, DHS CBP Attaché, Mr. Harold Hurtt, Assistant Director, DHS Mr. Daniel C. Clegg, FBI Legal Attaché, Mr. Art Acevedo, Chief, Austin Police Dept., Texas. The representatives of Indian delegation included Shri Madhukar Gupta former Union Home Secretary, Sh. Nehchal Sandhu, Deputy NSA, Indian State Police Forces, Para-military Forces, Technology partners, representatives from other law enforcement agencies and senior officers from MHA.

India-us homeland security dialogue Two day conference of police chiefs concludes, Odisha Current News, Odisha Latest Headlines
 
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