Hispanic woman shoved an Indian man down to New York Subway

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    NYC Subway Shoving Death

    NYC Subway Shoving Death: One Woman In Custody

     
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    Woman who says she's hated Muslims since 9/11 is charged with hate-crime murder of man pushed in front of New York subway
    Woman who says she's hated Muslims since 9/11 is charged with hate-crime murder of man pushed in front of New York subway | Dallas-Fort Worth Local Breaking News - News for Dallas, Texas - The Dallas Morning News

    Published: 29 December 2012 04:47 PM

    NEW YORK — A woman who told police she shoved a man to his death off a subway platform into the path of a train because she has hated Muslims since Sept. 11 and thought he was one was charged Saturday with murder as a hate crime, prosecutors said.

    Erika Menendez was charged in the death of Sunando Sen, who was crushed by a 7 train in Queens on Thursday night, the second time this month a commuter has died in such a nightmarish fashion.

    Menendez, 31, was awaiting arraignment on the charge Saturday evening, Queens District Attorney Richard A. Brown said. She could face 25 years to life in prison if convicted. She was in custody and couldn’t be reached for comment, and it was unclear if she had an attorney.

    Menendez, who was arrested after a tip by a passer-by who saw her on a street and thought she looked like the woman in a surveillance video released by police, admitted shoving Sen, who was pushed from behind, authorities said.

    “I pushed a Muslim off the train tracks because I hate Hindus and Muslims ever since 2001 when they put down the twin towers I’ve been beating them up,” Menendez told police, according to the district attorney’s office.

    Sen was from India, but police said it was unclear if he was Muslim, Hindu or of some other faith. The 46-year-old lived in Queens and ran a printing shop. He was shoved from an elevated platform on the 7 train line, which connects Manhattan and Queens. Witnesses said a muttering woman rose from her seat on a platform bench and pushed him on the tracks as a train entered the station and then ran off.

    The two had never met before, authorities said, and witnesses told police they hadn’t interacted on the platform.

    Police released a sketch and security camera video showing a woman running from the station where Sen was killed.

    Menendez was arrested by police earlier Saturday after a passer-by on a Brooklyn street spotted her and called 911. Police responded, confirmed her identity and took her into custody, where she made statements implicating herself in the crime, police spokesman Paul Browne said.

    The district attorney said such hateful remarks about Muslims and Hindus could not be tolerated.

    “The defendant is accused of committing what is every subway commuter’s worst nightmare,” he said.

    On Dec. 3, another man was pushed to his death in a Times Square subway station. A photo of the man clinging to the edge of the platform a split second before he was struck by a train was published on the front page of the New York Post, causing an uproar about whether the photographer, who was catching a train, or anyone else should have tried to help him.

    A homeless man was arrested and charged with murder in that case. He claimed he acted in self-defense and is awaiting trial.

    It’s unclear whether anyone tried — or could have tried — to help Sun on Thursday.

    Mayor Michael Bloomberg on Friday urged residents to keep Sen’s death in perspective as he touted new historic lows in the city’s annual homicide and shooting totals.

    “It’s a very tragic case, but what we want to focus on today is the overall safety in New York,” Bloomberg told reporters following a police academy graduation.

    But commuters still expressed concern over subway safety and shock about the arrest of Menendez on a hate crime charge.

    “For someone to do something like that … that’s not the way we are made,” said David Green, who was waiting for a train in Manhattan. “She needs help.”

    Green said he caught himself leaning over the subway platform’s edge and realized maybe he shouldn’t do that.

    “It does make you more conscious,” he said of the deaths.

    Such subway deaths are rare, but other high-profile cases include the 1999 fatal shoving of aspiring screenwriter Kendra Webdale by a former psychiatric patient. That case led to a state law allowing for more supervision of mentally ill people living outside institutions.
     
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    Re: NYC Subway Shoving Death

    Reminds me about the Sikhism Temple shooting... you guys look too much like Muslims. But why she hates hindus and muslim at the same time, does not she know they hate each others too?
     
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    But why Hindus...does she believe in RAW-MOSSAD nexus..? :notsure:
     
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    Re: NYC Subway Shoving Death

    While India may have given you a few examples of Hindus and Muslims hating each other, if seen from unbiased eyes, India will give you many more examples that are contradictory to your assertion.

    Someone with a surname of "Sen" if Indian, has to be a Bengali Hindu. However, I know personally a "Sen" who is Vietnamese/Cambodian.
     
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    Big guy we all know Hun Sen...:p
     
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    You are giving too much credit to the average American. She probably hates all brown people.

    Btw this same phenomenon is common in Russia where skinheads target people on the basis of their hair colour (most russians don't have black hair.)
     
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    I meant a client colleague of mine! :dude:
     
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    Do we understand each other's religion better than Erika Menendez

    Apparently, an insane New Yorker, Erika Menendez hated Muslims.
    So sulking in her disgust, she kills a Man by pushing him in front of an incoming Metro Train. Only it turns out, the man was a Hindu.
    Never the less, this hate crime again brought to fore the obvious and painful lack of awareness in many people out in the west; about the other ethnicities, religions and cultures. An appalling crime, regardless of the victim's religion.
    The woman named Erika Menendez has been arrested and here's what she said :
    Mr. Brown quoting Ms. Menendez as telling the police, “I pushed a Muslim off the train tracks because I hate Hindus and Muslims ever since 2001 when they put down the twin towers I’ve been beating them up.”
    :facepalm:
    We need the discussion to be around how much we understand each other's religion and from where or why is such horrific ignorance, indiscriminate beastliness erupting?
    No bashing !!



    Read more at - http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/30/n...ushed-onto-subway-tracks-in-queens.html?_r=1&

    Regards,
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    Re: Do we understand each other's religion better than Erika Menendez

    I believe in the context of India where Hindus who have shown tolerance vis a vis foreign religion (excl Buddhism,Sikhism,Jainism) have always been gratified with violence,persecution be it from Muslim invaders, Christian colonisers.
    Its in the collective memory how Muslim have shown utter disregard for the Hindus ethos and lives and till today we face the ever growing threat of Islamist and add to that we never have a strong muslim condemnation of this violence.

    If you take all countries they abide by their religious identities Western Europe recognise its Christian roots without any complex and so does Muslim states but it is becoming increasingly difficult in India for Hindus where the prevailing mentality is to demonise anyone who is proud of its Hindu religion.

    The backlash of this is that an anti-Hindu sentiment is being felt by the Hindus which will inevitably radicalise them. I really do not feel that India has failed other religions though there are setbacks but by far people are free to practice their religion and lastly one must first complete his knowledge about his own religion before moving to understand others.
     
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    Re: Do we understand each other's religion better than Erika Menendez

    What I don't get is, why would the lady not even care of find the religion of the man before throwing him to death. (As if that would've lessened her crime .. but still?)
    Next, I see that she accuses Hindus and Muslims alike for 9/11. What the heck !! :shocked:
    We didn't have anything to do with 9/11. If there's any place we stand in terrorism's world, it is the victim's arena.
     
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    Re: Do we understand each other's religion better than Erika Menendez

    Its sad to see that some people have least awareness about religion in places like US which are multi-cultural countries with immigrants from all around the world.

    AFAIK, the attack and killings of Sikhs in a Gurudwara in US also happened due to lack of understanding of the religion.
     
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    Re: Do we understand each other's religion better than Erika Menendez

    You are brown so are muslim hence to simplify matters put everyone in same basket.
    But I really believe that this will continue such acts given that radical muslims are increasing in West the local populace will inevitably start reacting with violence.
    The clash of faith is not so far from becoming reality.
     
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    Re: Do we understand each other's religion better than Erika Menendez

    In the early days after 9/11, the Turban wearing (bearded) Sikhs had a rough time in US. As far as I remember one or two were even killed or badly wounded.
     
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    Afaik Menendez is a Cuban immigrant :facepalm:
     
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    .. And people still think America is the land of dreams. This will not be forgotten. In due time, we will avenge this Hindu's death, Uncle Sam.
     
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    Erika Menendez is Hispanic, which means she may be a little brown herself, but the tragedy is compounded by her ignorance.

    A Sikh was murdered on 11/09/2001 because some American thought he was Muslim.
     
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    Feel free to kill every other American who is mentally ill.:accepted:
     
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    It's scary to know that these kinda Brain dead Zombies are living among us, :tsk: Stupid bitch !
     

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