Hindu Activists Turning to Terrorism??

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  1. Indianrabbit

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    Goa blast heat on Hindu outfit, five activists detained - Goa - City - The Times of India
    MARGAO: Five Hindu activists were detained on Saturday with Goa police, investigating the blast in Margao on Friday night, claiming strong signs
    of complicity of Sanatan Sanstha, a right-wing Hindu organisation, in the crime. Police claimed further damage was prevented as they managed to defuse three other explosive devices.

    Meanwhile, Malgonda Patil succumbed to the injuries he received in Friday’s blast. The other injured, Yogesh Naik is critical and battling for life at the Goa medical college and hospital. Police have registered cases under sections 121, 122, 123 of IPC and Section 4 & 5 of explosive substances act against both, members of the Sanatan Sanstha, said DIG R S Yadav. "Four bombs were planted, of which one exploded and two were defused in Margao and another near the Shantadurga temple at Sancoale on Friday night itself in Vasco, about 20 km from Margao.

    The materials used for the IEDs were similar and comprised of gelatin sticks to which small clocks and plastic boxes with circuits were attached. "Investigations have revealed that the bag containing one of the IEDs was placed in the scooter, which went off while the scooter was being parked. The involvement of the two persons who were critically injured in the blasts in carrying out the explosions has been established," said R S Yadav.

    "We are questioning almost all the Sanatan Sanstha members as the duo belonged to the group," said SP Atmaram Deshpande, SP and PRO of Goa police. Police sources said five persons associated with Sanatan Sanstha, including Yogesh Naik’s brother Suresh and a certain Sandeep Shinde from Pune, were being interrogated. A team of the Maharashtra anti-terrorism squad has reached Goa for investigations. The Sanatan Sanstha is linked to the Malegaon blast accused Sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur (as reported by TOI on Friday).

    The Margao blast was a part of a "larger conspiracy to endanger law and order situation in the state on the occasion of Narkasur effigy burning competitions held at various places across the state", said Yadav.
    The police resumed its search on the premises of Sanatan Sanstha’s ashram at Ramnathi, Ponda, on Saturday and are learnt to have found some incriminating substances. "The raids started at 9 am and ended at 2.30 pm.

    Altogether 30 rooms were searched and we have found some suspicious items like watches and some other electronic items. There were some 167 inmates, including some foreigners, residing at the ashram without any valid identity documents in violation of the law," a senior police official said. Sources said the Maharashtra police also conducted similar raids at the Sanatan’s Sangli and Miraj offices.

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    We should nip this in its bud. If hindus start there terror organization then Indian will be where Pakistan is today. It is important that we deal with terrorist with firm hand, religion should not matter.

    I also feel the divide between Hindus and Muslims should be narrowed and it is us the literate people that should start this by changing the mindset.
     
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  3. panditji

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    No country is free of jacka$$es. We have our share.

    It remains to be seen whether this is also not a mischief by some scheming mind, because one blast happened in the scooter, and other at a HINDU function. Someone who can think croooked can clearly see something fishy here.

    One can recall that joke about a young woman and her mother travelling with three fellas in a train, and the train enters a tunnel...
     
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    Rather crude devices- Gelatin sticks and clocks - indicates that they are a small, local group, operating on their own.
     
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    The Title of this Thread is being changed as its quite tasteless now. It makes it look like a certain religious community is Producing Terrorists.
     
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    As I have explained many times, extreme religious/ethnic nationalism if not checked will naturally result into extremism and terrorism, whether it be Islam , Judaism Chrisitanity or Hinduism. Or whether it be White, Black, German or Japanese e.t.c. ethnicity. An political connotations with religion or ethnicity should be nipped in the bud.
     
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    When will people learn culture is what is to be common and binding link not religion.Matter everywhere.
     
  8. S.A.T.A

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    Is 'Indian culture' distinct from the so called 'Indian religion' ? :)
     
  9. Indianrabbit

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    It is the responsibility of our generation that we bridge the religious divide between various religion in India. We should also work to finish caste divide and state divide. What we should not do is carry the raciest attitude of our ancestors with us. If I remember history correctly, my understanding is that we were invaded so many times because we were not united. I see even now some politicians like Raj Thackeray, Karunanidhi etc trying to create the same divide. We must make us understand India's position what it is today is because of our combine strength.
     
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    SATAji in some quarters there has been a concentrated effort to separate culture and religion.
     
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    "terrorism has no religion" this is the main slogan used by many of us after september 11 and november 26 attack but is it only confined to particular group?
    malegaon blast triggered same issue but november 26 made it nothing and again our media and we started using the above slogan.
     
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    Not really. Most secular western countries celebrate their religious festivals with fervour, even though they may not be dogmatic in their beliefs.

    I think what SATA is trying to say is, there is no need to blame religion itself for these extremists. Extremism can come from any totalitarian ideology (Maoism is our best example).

    Infact, Indian "religions" have been the most "tolerant" on this planet, allowing a wide variety in religious practices. The term "tolerance" itself is based on the model of Christianity etc., where due to their history of "intolerance", they are now asking people to "tolerate" other faiths. India has rarely had any problems with tolerating other religions, so this whole concept of "tolerance" has very little meaning here.
    Unfortunately, a lot of today's Hindu organizations seek to organize Hindus like Abrahmic religions, and standardize the dogmas. This obviously leads to conflict because ideas like "is this acceptable in Hinduism" come into play, effectively forcing people reject other practices as "un-Hindu" and creating animosities.
     
  13. S.A.T.A

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    That is true in the case with countries where 'Indigenous Culture' and 'popular religion' are mutually exclusive.It has been variously argued that the principal motivation behind Europe's Renaissance movement was to reclaim and even resurrect the suppressed indigenous cultures at the expense Christian(Semitic)Catholicism.From the 16th century to the tragic years of the middle 20th century,Europe reverberated with the passion of restoring the 'Old world,from painting to poetry,from classical architecture,politics to the much discredited race theories of the 19th and 20th centuries.The same vein can be traced in many works of popular authors in the old and new world(Tolkien,Dan brown, Rowling et al)

    The problem with Hindu right wingers is the reverse of the above,they are desperate to dredge out a 'organized religion' similar to the Semitic religion in both content and form and form.the greatest irony is that the right wingers are continuing something that was left over from the imperial years of the British raj,who themselves where desperate to understand the 'soul of this nation'.

    The soul of the nation is an overarching civilizational philosophy that assimilates everything and in doing so transforms it into something entire 'Bharatiya'.What refuses to transform will be discarded.

    Often its wondered why Islam or Christianity was unable to claim the whole of India for themselves despite their political supremacy for centuries.This was largely because there was nothing organized about the philosophy of the land that came to collectively referred to as 'Hinduism'.

    What can be organized can easily be disorganized,the Hindu right wingers will do well to remember it.Hindu right wingers will be doing a great service to their ideological guru Golwalkar,if they help Indian Islam/Muslim maintain and retain its Indian characteristics and character and not be allowed to be overwhelmed by the Arabic/Semitic components which is alien to this land and its people.

    When Aurangzeb ordered the execution of his elder brother(Dara Shikoh) and the true Mughal heir to the throne,the only charge that was laid against Dara was that he had become a heretic.Aurangzeb simply could not fathom a Muslim,much less a Mughal Muslim who spent time personally translating Mahabharata,Ramayana and Gita,or someone who called the Upanishads as Allah's hidden message......


    The fearless flotilla of Islam, whose flag fluttered over all the world, the ship that crossed the seven seas, came here and sank in the Ganga.
    .......Maulana Altaf Hussain Hali (1837-1914)
     
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    WOW what an Insight....I am speechless or wordless.What ever you have wrote is not some thing special but very simple. Its very very difficult to write something very simple.
    For an ideal hindu? it is very much inherited to understand why they have all the records of their ancestors from the times when no other religion was ever practising in 'Haridwar'.
    My Grandmother once told me that 'Cowards are immortals'. Are you suggesting the same. Don't you think now the age of any religion has gone beyond the capacity of ANY factor which was able to organize or disorganize it in past.
    Warm Regards
     
  15. S.A.T.A

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    Attempt to conceive 'Hinduism' from within the prism of Semitic faiths and help shape its evolution in that context would be absurd and alienating from our true roots.Some modern scholars have attempted to study The Bhakthi movement as a attempt to reform the Hindu religion on the lines of Islam's clarion call of one god one religion.

    Nothing could have been farther from the truth.Bhkathi movement and its principal promoters where certainly aware of the challenge posed by the new faith(and the political background)but instead of transforming into something alien,they rededicated the faith to the precepts that formed the very crux of the sanathana Dharma.

    Bhakthi movement was nothing but the reassertion of jagatguru Shankara Acharya's "Aham Brahmasmi"(The universal consciousness,Brahman is within me)the very soul of Shankara's Advaita philosophy,which highly personalized the pursuit of Paramatma(higher consciousness).That each individual could chose his own means to understanding and seeking the paramatma.

    Following the foot steps of Shankara,Bhakthi movement took the focus of Dharma from temples and scriptures to the each individuals home,heart and karma(duty).That is why when temples where destroyed and scriptures&libraries where burnt,the Dharma survived.....in the individual Bhakthi and karma of its adherent.

    This is what the promoters of organized religion seek to undo.
     

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