Hidden Agenda of ISI

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  1. Peaceworldwide

    Peaceworldwide Regular Member

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    Pakistan convened a grand conference of mainstream political parties to evolve consensus on national security policy and discuss proposal for talks with Taliban insurgents but what is the real agenda behind this conference? Agenda of the meeting was to bring peace and harmony in Pakistan and get rid of extremism and terrorism.

    The resolution also states that “The Federal Government should consider the possibility of taking the drone issue to the United Nation as drone attacks are a violation of International Law. They also declared that we shall ourselves determine the means and mode of fighting this war in our national interest and shall not be guided by the United States of America or any other country in this regard” but the hidden agenda of ISI is to stop drone attacks and to have a complete hold on Afghanistan through Talibans. ISI and Pakistani politicians have a history of supporting and encouraging Talibans and other terrorist organizations. For example Khalid Khwaja an ISI officer in 1988 said in an interview to Asia Times Online that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif met Al Qaida Chief Osama Bin Laden thrice in Saudi Arabia. As per Khalid Khwaja’s Statement, he also stated “I joined my former DG (director General ISI) Hameed Gul and played a role in forming the then Islamic Democratic Alliance consisting of the Pakistan Muslim League (Nawaz Sharif’s today’s ruling party of Pakistan) and the Jamaat-e-Islami.

    Pakistan has been supporting Talibans and terrorism through ISI. ISI, its generals and chiefs are in constant connection with terrorists. The real agenda behind this conference is to empower and protect Talibans and to promote Talibanisation and Islamisation through Talibans in Pakistan, the statement of Khalid Khwaja and involvement of Nawaz Sharif in pro Taliban activities are examples of Taliban mind-sets of Pakistanis.

    Other politicians don’t need any introduction, e.g. Maulana Fazl ur Rehman and Maulana Sami Ul Haq are proud of recruiting Talibans in Pakistan. Hundreds of people including these politicians have performed Osama Bin Laden’s funeral prayers. They still address Osama Bin Laden as a Martyr. Imran Khan’s statements and the statement of Chief Minister KPK (who is a member of Imran Khan’s party) that all sanitation jobs should be given to the Christians shows their hate for Christians in Pakistan. Chief Minister of KPK further mentioned “the reason for this decision is because Muslims are holy nation and Christians are untouchables, that is why Muslims cannot do sanitation jobs and Christians on the other hand who are untouchables are perfect for that kind of job.” During a debate on budget in National Assembly, Pakistan Tehreek e Insaaf MNA from Mardan, Mujahid Ali Khan, demanded for the release of Mumtaz Qadri (the man who gunned down governor Punjab Salman Taseer just because he was supporting Asia Bibi who is imprisoned due to a false blasphemy case). These are the prominent examples of Imran Khan’s hate for Christians and his discriminatory and pro-Taliban mind-set. Imran Khan is in fact a reincarnation of Osama Bin Laden or Osama Bin Laden in disguise.

    Talking about the mind sets; let’s have a look at another example, few days back, intelligence personnel of Pakistan arrested a student of Punjab University; who was found to be affiliated with Al Qaeda and eight more students have been arrested on the information provided by the detained. This is another example of Taliban mind set of a normal student studying in a normal university. Mullah Baradar who is a high commander of Taliban is soon going to be released by the government of Pakistan. Talibans are continuing their activities in Pakistan. Shahidullah Shahid, spokesman of Tehreek e Taliban Pakistan (Taliban Movement Pakistan) welcomes the joint decision of APC which supported and agreed on dialogues with Taliban.

    Pakistan is a country which is hungry for power since its inception. It wants to be the leader or the super power of South Asian region. Unfortunately, it’s the only Muslim nuclear power in the world and this makes it even famish for power. APC is government of Pakistan’s step to strengthen Taliban and generate its power in the region.

    89% Pakistanis support Talibans but the government of Pakistan is afraid of international community that is why they are creating the drama of dialogue with Talibans but in reality, they are giving them license to kill which will impose Talibanisation in Pakistan and will make it a complete Taliban state.

    Hector Aleem
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  3. Abhijeet Dey

    Abhijeet Dey Regular Member

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    On the other side Indian PM Manmohan Singh wants to have peace talks with Nawaz Sharif.
     
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    Hector Aleem, I empathise with the situation that your people are in, but Pakistan is a tough nut to crack. Most normal people find it difficult to understand how an identity crisis can reach such extreme levels that it goes as far as genocide to define one's identity.

    Egypt has along history before Islam. So does Iran. Both nations have found some peace with their past. they do not deny it, but accept the past as a feature that continues to the prent day.

    Pakistanis basically want to deny their past. That is OK if you have a good "present" or future to look forward to. Black Americans have a sad past but laws and life in America gives them some identity - at last now - after the mid 20th century.

    Pakistanis are trying to define their identity around not being Indian and have hooked on to Islam as the thing that will set them apart from all Indians. There is no role for non Muslims in Pakistan, other than as sweepers or slaves. I fear for your people as I fear for all non Muslims in Pakistan.
     
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    Usa also supported taliban when they were fighting soviets and presented a medal to haqani network chief talibans in afghanistan are fighting for freedom
     
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    W.G.Ewald Defence Professionals/ DFI member of 2 Defence Professionals

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    Well, that certainly justifies anything Pakistan has done, is doing, or will do.:okay:
     
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    If you can become al qaeda's airforce in syria to save your interest why cant we support taliban
     
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    I'll answer when that happens.
     
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    its fun to see the American and Paki masks come off - especially when there is a mutual "washing dirty linen in public" act :lol:
     
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    W.G.Ewald Defence Professionals/ DFI member of 2 Defence Professionals

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    Your basic assumptions may be skewed to begin with, or you are too easily amused.:pokerface:
     
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    Members of this forum, may I point out that yet again here is an example of a Pakistani trying to justify any criticism of Pakistan by saying "Someone else also does bad things so we are normal".

    In fact the USA used Pakistan as a condom, but there was a major difference. Pakistan was a willing condom. An eager-to-please, enthusiastic condom who desired to curry favour with America and get arms and money to fight India and readily and willingly allowed the Taliban to set up house in Pakistan. Pakistan's most pious, most islamic general, Zia ul Huck famously said "It is alright to lie in Islam if it is for a good cause". And true to his word, Pakistanis lied about their central role in supporting the Taliban and still do it to this day, as this post by naseem illustrates.

    If Pakistan had refused to do what the US wanted, the US would have done nothing. But one US official recently pointed out that anyone can be bought in Pakistan and the US simply paid off every Pakistani army officer and got them to use their own people to fight America's war. How can a man blame a friend for sleeping with his girlfriend if he invites him and gives him a room and time to do that? That is what Pakistanis did, in effect. And they are in denial. Why blame America?

    Ho hum. Someone wake me up when something changes....
     
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    Friend, are you not scared that the snoopy ISI may be tracking you right this moment.... for example @naseem could not hold himself back reading your posts and had to come out blurting garbage

    Please dont get me wrong, I understand your pain. Lakhs of Kashmiri Pandits had to face the same fate, and they were not even as much a minority as you are... but should not the vatican be able to help you. It is the most richest organization in the world. I really wonder why do they not do enough for the christians in pakistan, middle east or nigeria. You should have your clergy & cardinals to walk up to the vatican and demand help.

     
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    Only a false flagger like this @Peaceworldwide can make such a retard post
     
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    How would you justify your claim ? 'retard' post huh, in what sense ? What's wrong in the OPs post ?

    First learn agree to disagree ! If you disagree on something, be confident and defend your claim to justify your thoughts.

    Stop writing some absurd comments and don't be a pu$$y.
     
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    Retard posts are made when speaking about retards.
     
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    Can someone defines Civilized world in the context of Current Scenario of the existing world??
    Anyway if Pakistan has been doing it for whatever purpose, Countries often do such things.
    Once Nelson Mandela was a terrorist...
    World Changes definitions and perceptions with their intentions to achieve or gained something..
    There is no definite meaning of such acts...
    What is the point to prove from it???
     
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    Why don't you define that and enlighten us ?

    That means you are accepting the things and you are trying to justify that, atrocities on Pakistani Christians are lawful !? Pakistan is killing their own citizens just because they do not belong to particular religion ! And Pakistan does that because they are imitating some other countries in the world ? Pathetic :facepalm:

    Who says ? Pakistan or you ? Are you out of your mind ? What Nelson Mandela have to do with Pakistani Christians or other minorities in Pakistan ?

    Correct, that's what you (Pakis) are doing now, isn't it ?

    What point are you proving here ?
     
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    Nelson Mandela spent 27 years in jail for his people and you call him a terrorist? Do not insult a peaceful hero like Nelson Mandela be calling him a terrorist.
     
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    I am not declaring him anything, WEST once declared him terrorist...Learn History...
    He is a great hero...
     
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    My statement is not related to Christian any other minority brothers and sisters, dont twist it. I am saying it about taliban and other organizations.
    When US identifies these org, after their agenda is fulfilled?
    Mandela is a hero..

    I want Indian definition of terrorist...
     
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    How ironic ! You call them brothers and sisters however, won't stop abusing them in reality. Everyone, knows who is twisting, bending etc...

    okay, Pakistan produced Talibunnies. Once upon a time they were heroes to you, you named them Mujahideens, Jihaadis etc..., Now when they are killing their own masters, you name them as a terrorists !

    Oh wait, for you guys, there exists 2 types of Talibunni's; isn't it ? Good Talibunnies and Bad Talibunnies ?

    Don't know what are you trying to say here !

    A terrorist is a terrorist, PERIOD. There's no Indian or American definition.

    I am sure, Pakistani definition of terrorism would be different !!!

    Pakistan = Terror sponsoring state (Except Pakistan, every major country in the world says that)

    Here's a picture of terrorists, hope you would recognise them ;)

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