Here goes China's Nepal dream up in flames

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Will India manage to outsmart China in the South Asian Power Game?

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  1. amitkriit

    amitkriit Senior Member Senior Member

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    Nepalese victor seen as pro-Delhi plant

    Is Nepal's former PM Prachanda already in Siliguri?

     
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    I haven't really been following the situation in Nepal. So this guy, he's a pro Indian maoist ?
     
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    amitkriit Senior Member Senior Member

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    The new Nepalese PM Dr Baburam Bhattarai is considered to be more Pro-India than the No#1 Prachanda who has been spewing venom against India since time immemorial. Most hilarious fact is that both of these guys took refuge in India during the Nepalese civil war. Traditionally Nepalese PM's first official foreign visit is to India, but Prachanda angered India by visiting China first. Good thing is that Nepalese Army is pro India. China was trying hard to make inroads into Nepal through Maoists and anti-India propaganda, but seems like India was reserving it's best move till now.
     
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    S.A.T.A Senior Member Senior Member

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    Prachanda and his cronies are learning what king Gyanedra and his coterie learnt to their utter political ruin,that being anti India and ruling the roost in Kathmandu dont go hand in hand.
     
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    dont know much about Nepali politics but with all the interaction with Nepali people and specialy the tarai people they are quite proIndian and hole heartly support India.
    May be thats the reason for the maoiests to try to woo India as to make their base strong in tarai people get a clear mendate to rule in Nepal.
     
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    KS Bye bye DFI Veteran Member

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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    The Tarai people or madeshis have cultural, soical practices, traditions and language common with those living on the Indian side. The Pahadis wonder if they actually belong to Nepal and take them to be 'less Nepali'.

    May see:

    Maoist Bhattarai leads government, Madeshis wield real power

    ........Can’t it be argued that the mighty Maoist party has located itself into a not very enviable spot: between a rock and a hard place, or, more specifically, between the Madeshi and NC/UML pincer? As long as the Maoists walk the straight and narrow path dictated by external powers-that-be, all’s well: if not, is it outlandish to assume that the rug may be pulled from under their feet?..........
    Maoist Bhattarai leads government, Madeshis wield real power
     
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    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    We cannot be complacent with Nepal. Our close people to people ties will make sure china does not take Nepal from Indian influence.
    But we have to do more. Nepal has to act on the terror front as open border with Nepal is being used by Pakis to send in terrorists and fake currencies. We need to make sure indian money is going into Nepal so that they don't look up to china.
     
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    Thats what I am talking about sir- in Nepal the madesi people really hold power as they control most of bussines and trade.
     
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    It wouldd be the most unfortunate not mention a weak bond, if belonging to the same religion is the only reason for our alliance
     
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    Frankly, at some point India will have to take it, perhaps with generous autonomy. But its foreign policy, defence and such critical issues but taken up by Indian union. That will also help in the fast development of Nepal and is beneficial of nepalese in the long run.
     
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    maybe the case but nepalis i see on the internet (fb etc.) seem to be incredibly anti india.

    i was going through a nepali football fan page in fb and ppl there were extremely anti India...to the extent that they were supporting pakis in a India pak football match and hurling all kinds of racial abuses on Indians . they were calling indians "DHOTI" !!!
     
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    Take it I don't think so. Something like Bhutan yes. The Brits left the nepalis alone. I really don't know why we should annex it. Quite not possible in this day and age. We can just buy their loyalty with money and keep influence. The Chinese can do this too but we have the advantage of being culturally related.
     
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    Totally taking over it will negate the point of having a buffer state !
     
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    Take over Nepal? And invite the Chinese military who might enter Nepal in support of the Anti India maoists?
    We would dare not enterfere in SL because of the China factor so there is no chance in hell for a take over of Nepal.
    No country in the word is going to give up soveriegnity in exchange for some development.
     
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    Nepal and India have very strong bond that cannot be erased or even modified under any regime.

    Nepal local population is very much connected to India, Every one from each Nepali family is working in India, Most are pro Indians..

    Trade is more with Indians geographically also economically..

    The sale of 100 T-72M1 to Nepal with 100s of Trucks and 50MPV is grow in Military relations..


    Unlike the large community of Nepalese in India like in Assam their is none like in China..
     
  18. johnee

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    Taking over it by granting autonomy is better than being in perpetual fear of losing Nepal to China. And it is quite possible in any day and any age. We may need appropiate excuse and method to suit the time, place and circumstance.
     
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    If and when the chinese want to walk into Nepal, they dont need excuse, they will invent one. And we can interfere in SL also.

    Only the elites of such small nations are enjoying the 'soveriegnity' and care for the same. The common people will soon forget all that if they get the fruits of development. The elites can be coopted by sharing power with them. That is where the autonomy option works.
     
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    What is the use of having a buffer state?
     
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    Nepalis are fiercely independent. I don't think they will let go of their sovereignty. I would rather prefer a pro india buffer state between us and china than have our border with the Chinese. No take over will be without problems. There will be fringe elements always who will be against it even if the larger majority is willing for being taken over. That fringe will start an insurgency which will surely be supported by the Chinese.

    I don't think we should covet that land. Just make sure we do enough to keep them pro india.
     

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