Here goes China's Nepal dream up in flames

[amitkriit]

Nepalese victor seen as pro-Delhi plant

A former Nepali ambassador to the United Nations who did not want to be identified told Asia Times Online the statement was a signal that New Delhi has embarked upon a plan to make Nepal's sovereign, independent status a meaningless platitude.

"Is the ultimate destination then: Gangtok or Thimphu?", wondered seasoned journalist M R Josse, in his latest weekly column last Thursday. The first reference was to the capital of Sikkim, which was annexed by India in 1974. The second was to the capital of Bhutan, which has been made an Indian protectorate for all intent and purposes - Josse was Nepal's deputy ambassador to the UN till the early 1990s.

Is Nepal's former PM Prachanda already in Siliguri?

While Nepal's foreign ministry and the office of new prime minister, Dr Baburam Bhattarai, are working out the dates for the premier's first official visit to India, Nepal's media fraternity believes that Maoist supremo has already made his way to India.

 

[LurkerBaba]

I haven't really been following the situation in Nepal. So this guy, he's a pro Indian maoist ?

 

[amitkriit]

I haven't really been following the situation in Nepal. So this guy, he's a pro Indian maoist ?

The new Nepalese PM Dr Baburam Bhattarai is considered to be more Pro-India than the No#1 Prachanda who has been spewing venom against India since time immemorial. Most hilarious fact is that both of these guys took refuge in India during the Nepalese civil war. Traditionally Nepalese PM's first official foreign visit is to India, but Prachanda angered India by visiting China first. Good thing is that Nepalese Army is pro India. China was trying hard to make inroads into Nepal through Maoists and anti-India propaganda, but seems like India was reserving it's best move till now.

 

[S.A.T.A]

Prachanda and his cronies are learning what king Gyanedra and his coterie learnt to their utter political ruin,that being anti India and ruling the roost in Kathmandu dont go hand in hand.

 

[JAISWAL]

dont know much about Nepali politics but with all the interaction with Nepali people and specialy the tarai people they are quite proIndian and hole heartly support India.
May be thats the reason for the maoiests to try to woo India as to make their base strong in tarai people get a clear mendate to rule in Nepal.

 

[KS]

As long as the Nepalese Army remains staunchly Hindu, there is no need for India to worry .

 

[Ray]

The Tarai people or madeshis have cultural, soical practices, traditions and language common with those living on the Indian side. The Pahadis wonder if they actually belong to Nepal and take them to be 'less Nepali'.

May see:

Maoist Bhattarai leads government, Madeshis wield real power

........Can't it be argued that the mighty Maoist party has located itself into a not very enviable spot: between a rock and a hard place, or, more specifically, between the Madeshi and NC/UML pincer? As long as the Maoists walk the straight and narrow path dictated by external powers-that-be, all's well: if not, is it outlandish to assume that the rug may be pulled from under their feet?..........
Maoist Bhattarai leads government, Madeshis wield real power

 

[Yusuf]

We cannot be complacent with Nepal. Our close people to people ties will make sure china does not take Nepal from Indian influence.
But we have to do more. Nepal has to act on the terror front as open border with Nepal is being used by Pakis to send in terrorists and fake currencies. We need to make sure indian money is going into Nepal so that they don't look up to china.

 

[JAISWAL]

The Tarai people or madeshis have cultural, soical practices, traditions and language common with those living on the Indian side. The Pahadis wonder if they actually belong to Nepal and take them to be 'less Nepali'.

May see:

Maoist Bhattarai leads government, Madeshis wield real power

........Can't it be argued that the mighty Maoist party has located itself into a not very enviable spot: between a rock and a hard place, or, more specifically, between the Madeshi and NC/UML pincer? As long as the Maoists walk the straight and narrow path dictated by external powers-that-be, all's well: if not, is it outlandish to assume that the rug may be pulled from under their feet?..........
Maoist Bhattarai leads government, Madeshis wield real power

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Thats what I am talking about sir- in Nepal the madesi people really hold power as they control most of bussines and trade.

 

[Adux]

As long as the Nepalese Army remains staunchly Hindu, there is no need for India to worry .

It wouldd be the most unfortunate not mention a weak bond, if belonging to the same religion is the only reason for our alliance

 

[johnee]

We cannot be complacent with Nepal. Our close people to people ties will make sure china does not take Nepal from Indian influence.
But we have to do more. Nepal has to act on the terror front as open border with Nepal is being used by Pakis to send in terrorists and fake currencies. We need to make sure indian money is going into Nepal so that they don't look up to china.

Frankly, at some point India will have to take it, perhaps with generous autonomy. But its foreign policy, defence and such critical issues but taken up by Indian union. That will also help in the fast development of Nepal and is beneficial of nepalese in the long run.

 

[trojan]

dont know much about Nepali politics but with all the interaction with Nepali people and specialy the tarai people they are quite proIndian and hole heartly support India.
May be thats the reason for the maoiests to try to woo India as to make their base strong in tarai people get a clear mendate to rule in Nepal.

maybe the case but nepalis i see on the internet (fb etc.) seem to be incredibly anti india.

i was going through a nepali football fan page in fb and ppl there were extremely anti India...to the extent that they were supporting pakis in a India pak football match and hurling all kinds of racial abuses on Indians . they were calling indians "DHOTI" !!!

 

[Yusuf]

Frankly, at some point India will have to take it, perhaps with generous autonomy. But its foreign policy, defence and such critical issues but taken up by Indian union. That will also help in the fast development of Nepal and is beneficial of nepalese in the long run.

Take it I don't think so. Something like Bhutan yes. The Brits left the nepalis alone. I really don't know why we should annex it. Quite not possible in this day and age. We can just buy their loyalty with money and keep influence. The Chinese can do this too but we have the advantage of being culturally related.

 

[LurkerBaba]

Frankly, at some point India will have to take it, perhaps with generous autonomy. But its foreign policy, defence and such critical issues but taken up by Indian union. That will also help in the fast development of Nepal and is beneficial of nepalese in the long run.

Totally taking over it will negate the point of having a buffer state !

 

[Param]

Frankly, at some point India will have to take it, perhaps with generous autonomy. But its foreign policy, defence and such critical issues but taken up by Indian union. That will also help in the fast development of Nepal and is beneficial of nepalese in the long run.

Take over Nepal? And invite the Chinese military who might enter Nepal in support of the Anti India maoists?
We would dare not enterfere in SL because of the China factor so there is no chance in hell for a take over of Nepal.
No country in the word is going to give up soveriegnity in exchange for some development.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Nepal and India have very strong bond that cannot be erased or even modified under any regime.

Nepal local population is very much connected to India, Every one from each Nepali family is working in India, Most are pro Indians..

Trade is more with Indians geographically also economically..

The sale of 100 T-72M1 to Nepal with 100s of Trucks and 50MPV is grow in Military relations..


Unlike the large community of Nepalese in India like in Assam their is none like in China..

 

[johnee]

Take it I don't think so. Something like Bhutan yes. The Brits left the nepalis alone. I really don't know why we should annex it. Quite not possible in this day and age. We can just buy their loyalty with money and keep influence. The Chinese can do this too but we have the advantage of being culturally related.

Taking over it by granting autonomy is better than being in perpetual fear of losing Nepal to China. And it is quite possible in any day and any age. We may need appropiate excuse and method to suit the time, place and circumstance.

 

[johnee]

Take over Nepal? And invite the Chinese military who might enter Nepal in support of the Anti India maoists?
We would dare not enterfere in SL because of the China factor so there is no chance in hell for a take over of Nepal.
No country in the word is going to give up soveriegnity in exchange for some development.

If and when the chinese want to walk into Nepal, they dont need excuse, they will invent one. And we can interfere in SL also.

Only the elites of such small nations are enjoying the 'soveriegnity' and care for the same. The common people will soon forget all that if they get the fruits of development. The elites can be coopted by sharing power with them. That is where the autonomy option works.

 

[johnee]

Totally taking over it will negate the point of having a buffer state !

What is the use of having a buffer state?

 

[Yusuf]

Taking over it by granting autonomy is better than being in perpetual fear of losing Nepal to China. And it is quite possible in any day and any age. We may need appropiate excuse and method to suit the time, place and circumstance.

Nepalis are fiercely independent. I don't think they will let go of their sovereignty. I would rather prefer a pro india buffer state between us and china than have our border with the Chinese. No take over will be without problems. There will be fringe elements always who will be against it even if the larger majority is willing for being taken over. That fringe will start an insurgency which will surely be supported by the Chinese.

I don't think we should covet that land. Just make sure we do enough to keep them pro india.