Hatf IX (NASR) ballistic missile

[rizwan78]

I don't understand why these pakistan's treat nasr as a bhramos

Who is comparing it with Vintage Russian Junk, by the way what is the contribution of DORDO in this Mijjile other then Paint & Polish ?

 

[LETHALFORCE]

No never, Iron dome is usable for only unguided rockets , no chance to hit a maneuverable missile

This rocket does not go into the atmosphere iron dome would not even be needed IGLA would be enough to intercept it.

 

[sayareakd]

i dont get very small thing, to have nuke on rocket that too with only 60 km range that require miniaturize nuke, why one should go their with all the cost etc, when those stupid Pakistani can use F 16 from any of their base and blow up our Armour formation inside their own country ???

Ofcourse in the processes wiping state of Pakistan out of world map.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

This is a modified Chinese W2 MBRL

 

[LETHALFORCE]

i dont get very small thing, to have nuke on rocket that too with only 60 km range that require miniaturize nuke, why one should go their with all the cost etc, when those stupid Pakistani can use F 16 from any of their base and blow up our Armour formation inside their own country ???

Ofcourse in the processes wiping state of Pakistan out of world map.

This is not nuclear capable
This is not a missile
There is no minituarized nuke
I doubt the range is more than 40km look at the length of the tubes

Chinese gave the same exact think to Sri Lanka to use against the Tamil tigers.

 

[sayareakd]

No never, Iron dome is usable for only unguided rockets , no chance to hit a maneuverable missile

i am sure you know lot about missile and interceptor, but your post says otherwise.

 

[mayfair]

I believe it's time that we removed the restriction on the word P**i.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

This is not nuclear capable
Chinese gave the same exact think to Sri Lanka to use against the Tamil tigers.

That is RM-70
Chinese deliver the ammo as its cheap compare to East Block..

The Half-9 or NASR, is a Nuclear capable missile, Its degined to stop Armoed forces of our over Thar and Punjab..

But again as its a big system on move with a puny range of 60km, It waiting to get shot by our arty and Airborne elements..

Its a Shame that such a huge missile have a puny range of 60kms ? , It should have at-least 150km to archive its desired goal..

 

[sayareakd]

kunal sir it is good that they have it now, now we have to make our anti rocket system or buy iron dome from israel.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

That is RM-70
Chinese deliver the ammo as its cheap compare to East Block..

The Half-9 or NASR, is a Nuclear capable missile, Its degined to stop Armoed forces of our over Thar and Punjab..

But again as its a big system on move with a puny range of 60km, It waiting to get shot by our arty and Airborne elements..

Its a Shame that such a huge missile have a puny range of 60kms ? , It should have at-least 150km to archive its desired goal..

Very simple question when Nasr is fired the AWACS will pick up it's position and it will become a high priority target to take out in initial stage. What you are saying is true 60km is a low range for AWACS Phalcon and our own indigenous that will have 250km range. How long would this be effective against a thrust?? Also do you really think this is nuclear capable ?? How big would the warhead be sub kiloton?? If it is possible it would not be much different from a DU round fired from a tank like Abrams??

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Very simple question when Nasr is fired the AWACS will pick up it's position and it will become a high priority target to take out in initial stage. What you are saying is true 60km is a low range for AWACS Phalcon and our own indigenous that will have 250km range.

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The AN/TPQ-47 Firefinder's modular field-repairable design minimizes down time to maintain high system operational availability. An auto calibration algorithm allows the antenna to be recalibrated in the field.The Q-47 provides a substantial increase in range and accuracy over the Q-37. Like the Q-37, the Q-47 is optimized for rockets and cannons. The probability of locating an enemy system in normal mode is .85 or higher throughout the entire range fan for a specific target category. The Q-47 can locate light and heavy mortars at ranges out to 18km and heavy mortars out to 30km with the same probability of location. It locates artillery and light rockets out to 60km and heavy rockets out to 100km. General planning ranges are 18km for mortars, 60km for artillery and light rockets and 100km for heavy rockets.

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How long would this be effective against a thrust?? Also do you really think this is nuclear capable ?? How big would the warhead be sub kiloton?? If it is possible it would not be much different from a DU round fired from a tank like Abrams??

If hit it will damage any thrust, But not enough to destroy entire Armored thrust consist of 50 tanks or more, Its effect will be big but not enough to stop it..

Du rounds are different the are merely Uranium alloy with other metals in a APDFS round..




The qestion u seek is, Do Pakistani have such small nuke device or they have Chinese prototype Nuke Device untested..

 

[LETHALFORCE]

The qestion u seek is, Do Pakistani have such small nuke device or they have Chinese prototype Nuke Device untested..

Yes but sub kiloton quantity would be similar??? Would a few hundred grams of fissile material be worth using when it would be replied with many kilotons???

 

[Yusuf]

What question ? did you have any question if i ask you that India don't have nukes capability..India have purchased its all Missile tech from Russia... India could not make a single bullet with out getting help from EU countries ? You are the most senior member of this forum, you guys knows what the reality is, SO back to the topic please

You will have to go below post 48 on to see what questions were posed. You can say all you want about what india has or doesn't have or if we have fire crackers or real missiles. The thread is discussing logic here of using a 60km range "missile" with "nukes" when viewed from the doctrine of Pak as far as nukes go along with the known capability of Pak nuke program. It all doesnt fit in. I feel the statement about the missile being nuke capable might be made by an over zealous scientist/general or a over excited media adding some masala to the comment that might have been made by a Pak scientist or general in charge of the project.

 

[sayareakd]

kunal sir WLR is integrated with Akash radar can effectively take out these rockets with some modification.

 

[pankaj nema]

India Pakistan war will be won by the side having overwhelming firepower superiority

India can and will deploy various defensive systems like ABM s BMD Weapon locating radars and airborne radars and aerostat radars .

Pakistan too will try to match us in whatever way it can

But in the final analysis it will come down to numbers ie more missiles more arty, more fighter planes more attack helicopters , more tanks and above ALL more soldiers

It will be a high intensity battle of attrition

The satellites UAV ,AWACS and other reconaissance tools will be vital for finding the enemy positions and hitting them before they hit us

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

a 60km range is not a short range but nano range ballistic missile.a short range ballistic missile prithvi has ranges 150km,250km,350km and even 500km.

 

[sayareakd]

Guys lets look at broad picture if any terrorist attack take place on Indian soil ,which worth punishing Pakistan, then we will launch 'cold start', if that happen and frustrate Pakistan will try to take out our Armour formation with tactical nuke (hypothetically), then they better take out all or most of India's major cities, because as per our nuclear doctrine we will punish Pakistani will massive nuclear strike at their military and nuclear storage and launch sites, at the same time our BMD would be at high state of alert, along with AWACs, radars and green pine.

so all this talk of Pakistan having first strike nuke is theoretically, nothing but chest thumping, without having balls to absorb massive retaliatory nuclear strike.

now with this rocket, it has fuel there imagination for having nuclear strike in their own land that too from a distance of 60km.

 

[Yusuf]

Anup, Pak nuke threat is a bluff that needs to be called. Not matter how big their arsenal grows, it will never be a first strike one and not a one that would bring india to it's knees. We just need stronger leaders to rake that call when the next opportunity comes.

 

[sayareakd]

yusuf you are right there, we need strong leader who can take difficult decision and back our forces and intelligence agency.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

kunal sir WLR is integrated with Akash radar can effectively take out these rockets with some modification.

HALF 9 is a joke... .....