Hari Singh Nalwa, Who captured Afghanistan

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Amazing post Virendra. Yes, Raja Man Singh it was, and yes, here is the flag if I am not mistaken:

 

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Hail Hari Singh Nalwa :thumb: .. but hold your horses on that one. Allow me to sprinkle few drops of history from my FB page. Will keep it concise I promise :)


So, you see I'm not a pro in history and though would want to share a lot of exciting stuff .. I would resist from making sweeping conclusions.
Rajputs not only defeated Afghans, they made a nice pudding of their flags.

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Virendra
interesting story any links?????
 

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At some time during the hunt, he was temporarily separated from the hunting party and a lion attacked him, killing his horse. The rest of the hunters found him but he refused their attempts to protect him and killed the lion by himself with a shield and short sword
Was it a lion or a tiger? I think it was a tiger. You said he is called Bagh-Mar, so it was a tiger.

Bagh = tiger, Singh = lion.
 

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Amazing post Virendra. Yes, Raja Man Singh it was, and yes, here is the flag if I am not mistaken:
Nice find mate .. I was looking for the flag.
Our history is a deep mine. Digging never ends :D :D

interesting story any links?????
Google is your friend. Or even better, read "History of Jaipur" from Jadunath Sarkar.
 
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Was it a lion or a tiger? I think it was a tiger. You said he is called Bagh-Mar, so it was a tiger.

Bagh = tiger, Singh = lion.

Nickname Bag Mar[1]
(Tiger-Killer)
Born 1791
Gujranwala
Died 1837
Jamrud
Allegiance Sikh Empire
Rank General
Commander-in-chief along the Afghan Frontier (1822-1837)
Commands held Governor of Kashmir (1820-1)[2]
Governor of Multan (1822)[2]
Governor of Peshawar (1834)[2]
Battles/wars Battle of Kasur (1807), Battle of Multan (1818), Battle of Kashmir (1819), Battle of Mangal (1821), Battle of Mankera (1821), Battle of Naushehra Trans-Indus (1823), Battle of Sirikot (1824), Battle of Saidu Trans Indus (1827), Occupied Peshawar without a battle (1834), Battle of Jamrud (1837)
 

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I have seen that flag. I have visited Amber Palace and have seen the Jaivan (a huge cannon, largest mobile cannon I think). All the palaces and properties of the Raja Man Singh fly that flag even today.
 

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So I was wondering all those Pakistanis, especially the likes of Zaid Hamid, who say, 'We ruled you,' should come and visit this thread. :lol:
 

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The Sikhs were a valiant bunch no wonder our armed forces is roughly 12% sikh even though they are only 2% total population.
 

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Hari Singh Nalwa built the fortified town of Haripur, Pakistan in 1822.
-Wiki:

So Haripur is named after him.

The Sikh Empire:


So, when did the Dogras get hold of J&K? (this is a bit off topic)
 

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200 years of Mughal rule and 150 years of British rule are extrapolated into 1000 years of Islamic rule and 300 years of British rule on India.
Big time distortions in history I say.

Now that both BW and Virendra are there, I think I should put this link,
Sikhs v. Rajputs: War Medal Count
:troll:
I don't do those kind of comparisons Karthic. Among my own people, no way. They're all men of honor and we hardly know a fraction about the ground realities, nuances and compulsions of the world they lived in. We forget that; when we live these ordinary lives, crib about our day to day problems and then tend to point fingers or go "this vs. that".
Personally I find it a very disturbing and unhealthy thing to do.

So, when did the Dogras get hold of J&K? (this is a bit off topic)
Google "Zorawar Singh", you'll find the answers.



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Virendra
 
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The Sikhs were a valiant bunch no wonder our armed forces is roughly 12% sikh even though they are only 2% total population.
Hari Singh Nalwa was a Dogra!

One requires a good leadership and good Generalship!

So was Zorawar Singh, who was a Dogra and a General of the Sikh Empire!

Under boths leadership and Generalship the Sikh Empire reached its zenith!
 
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Hari Singh Nalwa was a Dogra!

One requires a good leadership and good Generalship!

So was Zorawar Singh, who was a Dogra and a General of the Sikh Empire!

Under boths leadership and Generalship the Sikh Empire reached its zenith!
Well in that case, I'd like to mention that Dogras are a Rajput clan. Although I haven't read much on them, so may be others can correct me if I'm wrong.
 

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Hari Singh Nalwa was a Dogra!

One requires a good leadership and good Generalship!

So was Zorawar Singh, who was a Dogra and a General of the Sikh Empire!

Under boths leadership and Generalship the Sikh Empire reached its zenith!

All Sikhs were Hindus before:thumb::thumb::thumb:
 

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Tara Singh?................
 

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Zorawar Singh was a Kashmiri Rajput living in celibacy when Sikhs spotted him.
Now I don't know whether he became a Sikh or was still a Hindu when he was the General of Ranjit Singh.
An unstoppable Zorawar even invaded Tibet, after which the Chinese retaliated and it became his undoing. I remember Dogras did revenge his death in the subsequent battles killing leaders on the other side when Chinese tried counter invasions and then finally after a battle at Ladakh, both sides agreed to a cease fire and to never venture into each others territory again.
 

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