HAL Prachand - Light Combat Helicopter (LCH)

[Armand2REP]

take a look under laser sensor they just say Laser target designator and laser illuminator/pointer.

Laser rangfinder is used to find the range.
http://elbitsystems.com/media/DCoMPASS_AIR_2016-1.pdf

The laser designator is for illuminating targets for laser guided munitions. Helina is not laser guided so it is not needed and actually a risk to the pilot if used on anything with a laser warning receiver (LWR). The range finder is a far less powerful laser, undetectable by LWR. The designator might come in handy if supporting air strikes using LGBs but the pilot is putting himself at risk.

 

[Vijyes]

The laser designator is for illuminating targets for laser guided munitions. Helina is not laser guided so it is not needed and actually a risk to the pilot if used on anything with a laser warning receiver (LWR). The range finder is a far less powerful laser, undetectable by LWR. The designator might come in handy if supporting air strikes using LGBs but the pilot is putting himself at risk.

Laser guided ATGM is now losing its sheen. We are moving to fire and forget missiles and Satellite navigation guided bombs.

Why would anyone want to use laser now? Isn't it simply better to acquire the satellite positioning to guide even simpler bombs? By the way, why would a light helicopter like LCH be used to carry guided bombs?

 

[Armand2REP]

Laser guided ATGM is now losing its sheen. We are moving to fire and forget missiles and Satellite navigation guided bombs.

Why would anyone want to use laser now? Isn't it simply better to acquire the satellite positioning to guide even simpler bombs? By the way, why would a light helicopter like LCH be used to carry guided bombs?

The advantage of laser guidance is cost and ability to hit moving targets. Sat guided bombs need INS gyros along with its positioning receiver which raises cost but is all weather. Within visual range IR guided munitions with lock on capability like Helina are best as they are all weather and can hit moving targets. The seekers are still more expensive than simple laser reticles. I was not refering to LGBs for LCH but the Elbit link posted earlier that had a laser designator, it can be used to designate LGBs dropped by LCA or other fighters.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

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500KG Bombs are being prepared to be mounted on MI-35 wings ..

Was working on a presentation back in days regarding the topic ..

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Outdated but relivent ..

 

[charlie]

Laser guided ATGM is now losing its sheen. We are moving to fire and forget missiles and Satellite navigation guided bombs.

Why would anyone want to use laser now? Isn't it simply better to acquire the satellite positioning to guide even simpler bombs? By the way, why would a light helicopter like LCH be used to carry guided bombs?

I don't know where you heard it's loosing sheen, it's doing good and far better sensitive sensor research are going on, A lot of my friends would be pissed of if they heard your comment it's their bread and butter.

The only problem with them is someone needs to be there to guide the missile to it's target, MMW is doing good but laser sensor is not going anywhere.

Try hitting a moving target with GPS guided bombs, GPS guided can be jammed much easily then Laser, but now there are quite a few anti jammers kits are also available.

 

[indiandefencefan]

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[Skdas]

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Is it me or LCH has a very silent rotary wash? The engine spool noise is more than those massive baldes going arround... But yes when it hovers over head it has that signature low Durubb-durubb

 

[indiandefencefan]

Is it me or LCH has a very silent rotary wash? The engine spool noise is more than those massive baldes going arround... But yes when it hovers over head it has that signature low Durubb-durubb

A more knowledgeable member might be able to better answer your query as my knowledge on helicopters is rather limited but to note is the fact that this video is of a very early LCH prototype.
A better means of evaluating your theory is to analyze later models as the LCH design has evolved considerably since the model in the video.
If I am not mistaken the displayed model is that of TD1 while TD4 is currently undergoing field trials.

 

[Sancho]

HAL gets RFP for LCH LSP:

 

[Prashant12]

Boost to Indigenous Light Combat Helicopter: One More Request for Proposal (RFP) for HAL from Indian Air Force and Indian Army.

 

[binayak95]

HAL gets RFP for LCH LSP:

Good going!! Looks like IAF is on a roll! I was wondering where this project went. There had been no news on this for some time.

 

[Sancho]

Good going!! Looks like IAF is on a roll! I was wondering where this project went. There had been no news on this for some time.

Let's see if HAL was able to delete the remaining issues and let's hope that Helina will be ready soon, we can't have another combat helicopter flying without ATGMs.

 

[rohit b3]

Boost to Indigenous Light Combat Helicopter: One More Request for Proposal (RFP) for HAL from Indian Air Force and Indian Army.

15? And i was thinking that the initial 15 were already in production since a couple of months...

 

[Vinod DX9]

I guess there is something more thsn just this

 

[Prashant12]

After Tejas, HAL gets request for more desi combat choppers



BENGALURU: Just days after the Indian Air Force (IAF) kick-started the process to place orders for 83 more Tejas aircraft, the IAF and the Indian Army have now floated a Request for Proposal (RFP) for 15 Limited Series Light Combat Helicopters (LCH), further providing a boost to defence PSU Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).
The LCH is a 5.5-tonne class combat helicopter designed and developed by HAL, and is powered by two Shakti engines and inherits many technical features of the Advanced Light Helicopter.

Confirming the RFP, HAL said in a statement: "The features that are unique to LCH are sleek and narrow fuselage, tri-cycle crashworthy landing gear, crashworthy and self-sealing fuel tanks, armour protection and low visibility features which makes the LCH lethal, agile and survivable."
The helicopter, HAL claimed, would have day/night targeting systems for the crew including the Helmet pointed sight and Electro-optical pod consisting of CCD camera. Besides, it comes fitted with Self Protection Suite consisting of Radar/Laser Missile warning systems and countermeasures dispensing system

Presently, four technology demonstrators are under flight testing. "LCH has the distinction of being the first attack helicopter to land in Forward Bases at Siachen, 5,400 mts above sea level. On August 26, 2017, the Defence Minister launched the production of LCH at Bengaluru and IOCdocuments of the basic version were handed over to HAL by the Center for Military Airworthiness and Certification (CEMILAC)," HAL said.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...desi-combat-choppers/articleshow/62210953.cms

 

[Sancho]

HAL to build combat choppers worth Rs 3,465 crore, but order book remains thin
23 December 2017

On Friday, the Indian Air Force (IAF) and Indian Army initiated the purchase of 15 indigenously designed and built Light Combat Helicopters (LCH) from Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL). The IAF will take ten helicopters, and the army five.

Business Standard learns from HAL sources that the cost of each LCH will be Rs 231 crore, putting the overall cost of the order at Rs 3,465 crore.

These “limited series production” LCHs would be built in Bengaluru, at a facility that former defence minister Arun Jaitley inaugurated in August. Subsequently, HAL will set up a large-scale manufacturing facility in Tumkur to build the 114 LCHs the army has committed to buying, and the 65 the IAF has said it will take.

The cost of these 179 LCHs, at current prices, adds up to Rs 41,350 crore...

http://ajaishukla.blogspot.de/2017/12/hal-to-build-combat-choppers-worth-rs.html?m=1

 

[Prashant12]

HAL is going to start building limited series production Light Combat Helicopter Units from January 2018 itself. They intend to deliver six units in the next fiscal itself.


It seems that HAL has also made progress on the HTSE-1200 turboshaft engine that it is developing for helicopter use. In-house component fabrication as well as sourcing is presently underway.


https://twitter.com/SJha1618

 

[Adioz]

http://ajaishukla.blogspot.de/2017/12/hal-to-build-combat-choppers-worth-rs.html?m=1

Why the shift from Bengaluru facility to the one in Tumkur after LSP production? Is it that the Tumkur facility got delayed and HAL was under pressure to start production, so they made a make-shift facility?

HAL is going to start building limited series production Light Combat Helicopter Units from January 2018 itself. They intend to deliver six units in the next fiscal itself.


It seems that HAL has also made progress on the HTSE-1200 turboshaft engine that it is developing for helicopter use. In-house component fabrication as well as sourcing is presently underway.


https://twitter.com/SJha1618

HSTE-1200 was for IMRH, right?

 

[Prashant12]

Why the shift from Bengaluru facility to the one in Tumkur after LSP production? Is it that the Tumkur facility got delayed and HAL was under pressure to start production, so they made a make-shift facility?

HSTE-1200 was for IMRH, right?

HSTE-1200 was for Dhruv, LCH & LUH.

IMRH requires 3,000 shaft horsepower twin engines.
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com...-for-indigenous-helicopter/article9904767.ece

 

[Sancho]

Why the shift from Bengaluru facility to the one in Tumkur after LSP production? Is it that the Tumkur facility got delayed and HAL was under pressure to start production, so they made a make-shift facility?

Not sure if it gets delayed, but it should be a larger production line more suitable for the expected order of IA and IAF, when the low number LSP order can be done in Bengaluru as it seems.