Graph of World War II casualties

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  1. LurkerBaba

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    Found this floating on the web. Not sure of it's accuracy. I was surprised at the 'civilian deaths' figure for India

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  3. W.G.Ewald

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    I think there have been several posts about deaths from starvation in India during WWII.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_famine_of_1943

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

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    Yes, but I expected the military death figures to be much higher.

    btw I'm not surprised by the statistics on Soviet Union and China
     
  5. Son of Govinda

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    That's what happens when a country turns Bolshevik...

    Stalin's brutality was 100x worse than anything the Wehrmacht/Waffen-SS could inflict upon the Soviets.
     
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    I am surprised by the Chinese numbers. It is inflated.
     
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    For China the war started from 1931 when Manchuria fell, far ahead of 1939 when WW2 broke out in Europe. and in the graph much more civilian death than military due to starvation, bombardment, and resistance in occupied areas...

    For example in the wartime capital Chongqing, which was far away from the frontline, around 10,000 civilians died in bombardments, due to China virtually having lost air defense capability. BTW, Soviet Union sent a "voluntary" air force to help China during 1937-1939, particularly in defence of Nanjing and Wuhan. The advent of America's "Flying Tigers" (American Volunteer Group) reversed the situation since 1941.
     
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    I am aware of when the war started but 20 million dead is as believable as Santa Claus.
     
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    I thought the military numbers were deflated! China lost little less than twice the Japanese military causalities. I was under the impression that it being a military rout, the casualties would be far worse. Civilian deaths do look very high though.
     
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    1.JmA - Sovjet Military aid to China
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    Just speculation but maybe Indian civilian deaths are Indian soldiers being counted as civilians
    since India was part of the British empire and not an independent nation at that time? Many sites
    have different numbers for civilian and military..
     
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    They were part of the British Raj which included North East and Burma and also Singapore. These places saw some of the most grueling battles during the entire war.

    My two cents.
     
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    I agree that is why I am questioning why Indian civilian death is more than military Death. Indians also won major
    battles in north africa and Italy.
     
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    Japanese war crimes in these areas, especially Burma.
     
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    Other numbers I have seen say 4 million Indian military deaths fighting for the queen in 2 world wars.
     
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    I think that is the total number who served. There definitely weren't that many military deaths.
     
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    You are right I am starting to think that maybe parts of Burma was in india for the high civilian number .
    My Grandfather was in Burma and Bengal at that time as a contractor for the British I wish I could have heard some
    Of those stories.
     
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    over 20 MILLION death in 6 years for the Soviet Union :shocked:
     
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    Nepal 6,000,000 Included with British Indian Army

    India
    1939 Population of India included the present day India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. The war dead listed here are those reported by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission, total deaths were 87,032.[6] The 'Debt of Honour Register' from the Commonwealth War Graves Commission lists the men and women of the Commonwealth forces who died during the two world wars.[233] Gurkhas recruited from Nepal fought with the British Indian Army during the Second World War. Gurkha casualties with the British Indian Army can be broken down as: 8,985 killed or missing and 23,655 wounded[234] The preliminary 1945 data for Indian losses was, killed 24,338, missing 11,754, wounded 64,354 and POW 79,489.[133] Out of “60,000" Indian Army POWs taken at the Fall of Singapore, 11,000 died in captivity[64] The pro-Japanese Indian National Army lost 2,615 dead and missing.[155]
    Sources for total Indian civilian war dead range from 1.5 to 2.5 million as detailed below.
    John W. Dower estimated 1.5 million civilian deaths in the Bengal famine of 1943.[235] Amartya Sen currently the Lamont University Professor at Harvard University has recently estimated that a figure of 2.0 to 2.5 million fatalities may be more accurate.[236]
    Werner Gruhl estimates the civilian death toll due to the Bengal famine of 1943 at 2,000,000.[62]

    World War II casualties - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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