Ghatak Bricks to be equipped with Snipers

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    Swiss, Russian and Israeli firms are in the fray for supplying over 2,000 sniper rifles to the Indian Army for equipping the 'Ghatak bricks' (strike force) in its more than 300 Infantry battalions.


    The Request for Proposal for the procurement was issued earlier this year by the Indian Army to replace and augment the existing inventory of Dragunov and Galil sniper rifles.


    "Fresh commercial bids have been submitted by five vendors for the contract," Army sources told Defenenow.com here.


    The sniper rifles are being procured for the Ghatak bricks in the Indian Army after the Government decided that they would also be used as counter-terrorist grids while they are deployed in peace locations to tackle 26/11 type attacks.


    After the attacks, the elite Para Special Forces battalions were assigned the task of training these regular Infantry battalions to tackle such attacks in an urban environment.


    The Directorate General of Infantry was also asked to initiate procedures for procuring specialized counter terrorism equipment for these units.


    Till now, these Ghatak Bricks comprising of best soldiers in battalions were used only in Jammu and Kashmir and the North Eastern states for taking on the terrorists there.

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    OSV-96 large caliber sniper from KBP.

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    although it is over kill, but few of these wont be bad idea to send terror back in the heart of terrorist,
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    specially if terrorist is hiding behind brick wall or car.
     
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    I think XM500 is the most suitable choice for Ghataks. Gun is gas operated, semi automatic, weighs some 11kgs, has 10 round detachable magazine. Bullpup design is great advantage.

    It uses .50BMG ammo

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    This one is a real badass gun!
     
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    Every infantry unit has Ghataks.

    They are basically the ad hoc Commando Platoon that the infantry battalions had and the nomenclature was changed by Gen Bipin Joshi to Ghataks.

    Sniper rifles are also on the authorisation of the infantry battalions.

    Therefore, are these augmenting the snipers of a battalion or giving, in addition, a sniper rifle to the Ghatak or merely buying new sniper rifles?
     
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    NRJ ghataks are QRTs ,not true snipers.They would be going to buy any semiauto sniper ie designated marksman rifles chambered for 7.62x51 or russian 7.62x54 rounds.The potential competitors would be new druganev in polymer stock or galil or sig550.Gouldnt expect them to buy such heavy calibre ones like osv96 chambered for 12.7 ammo.
     
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    Ghataks are basically Commandos and are used in war for blocks, raids and so on in support of the main operation.

    In CI, they can be used for specialised ops in support of the COIN ops.

    Every unit otherwise has a QRT always ready for Quick Reaction. These teams are like air force pilots on 'runway readiness'.
     
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    Army is looking to replace its old druganev & galil. This is in referance to rfi issued earlier this year for 1000 new units. Now they are looking for 2000 units. We still do not know if this will only add another 1000 to original proposal or this completely new.

    Although i think its total 2000 units not more than that. XM500 are suitable option as army does not want gun to be more than that of 15kgs.

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    read a few inconsistent and incoherent statements:


    Ghatak Bricks


    Ha Ha ... there is nothing called bricks in sniper section or Ghataks. Brick as a terminology is used for those functional units where as per requirement one adds a "brick" to cater for more work within the same Command and control setup. The overall news writeup though is good and meaningful.

    Dragunov and Galil sniper rifles


    still continue to be the best in the old class. There is a lot of experimentation and debate on Snipping Rifle and ammunition. In the ammunion category 7.62 Nato standard or Russian class is still considred good though many 9 mm version have also emerged. What is central to snipping is that it is the first shot kill at ranges about 1000 m or the snipper is killed.
    In special operation the concept of silence snipping has also emerged to cater for killing of leaders, commanders and terrorist. Thus snipping has two categories, long range and short range (usually silencer snipping).
    I do not know what are the QRs for this weapons ?

    Snipping within the Ghataks is a very very specialise operation which includes covert suverveillance.



    Ghataks are basically Commandos


    (So are not commandoes supposed to have snipers? )



    are used in war for blocks, raids and so on in support of the main operation.

    In CI, they can be used for specialized ops in support of the COIN ops.


    (The sniper operation could be apart of wherever has been said or may be independent special ops. Sniper ops as very very specialized ops needing separate specially trained troops within or without Ghataks.)



    ghataks are QRTs ,not true snipers


    OMG, Ghataks are Ghataks. Any one can be QRT but every one can not be Ghatatak. Ghataks are specialized and specially trained infantry subunit capable of carrying out commando type operation independently or in conjunction but basically with infantry units. Ghatak teams of India have bagged Gold and Silver medals at internationally participated Cambraian Patrols conducted by UK Army in Wales where SF of numerous country including Pakistan participate. They are trained in Commando ops, Jungle warfare and mountain warfare.



    These teams are like air force pilots on 'runway readiness'.



    No sir. It is not the degree of readiness which separates a ghatak from other infantry soldier. It is their training and skills. OK. Any one can be on readiness.
     
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    Nice! So I can ask my cousin when he comes for holidays about his new toys :thumb:.
     
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    My personal favourate Accuracy International AS50 sniper rifle. I would really love to see it used by Indian Armed Forces.
     
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    M2 as a sniper rifle

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