German official blames China for Somalia's famine

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German official blames China for Somalia's famine


With east Africa in the grip of famine after its worst drought in 60 years, Germany's Africa policy coordinator has fingered an unlikely culprit: China. Agence France-Presse reports:

Guenter Nooke told the daily Frankfurter Rundschau it was clear that "this catastrophe is also man-made".

"In the case of Ethiopia there is a suspicion that the large-scale land purchases by foreign companies, or states such as China which want to carry out industrial agriculture there, are very attractive for a small (African) elite," he said.

"It would be of more use to the broader population if the government focused its efforts on building up its own farming system."

He said that the Chinese investments were focused on farming for export which he said can lead to "major social conflicts in Africa when small farmers have their land und thus their livelihoods taken away."

Today, a written statement from the Chinese Foreign Ministry vehemently denied the allegations. "China has never had plans to buy land overseas, and China has never purchased land in Africa," the statement said, adding that Nooke's claims stemmed from "ulterior motives." The Foreign Ministry also announced today that it would provide $14 million in emergency food assistance to the Horn of Africa.

Beijing's protestations aside, Chinese investment in African farmland has ratcheted up significantly in recent years, as the government seeks to quell concerns about long-term food security. One estimate puts the number of Chinese farm workers in Africa at 1 million. Meanwhile, the Atlantic quotes a June 2009 report in the Chinese weekly Economic Observer that describes how Beijing "was planning to rent and buy land abroad" to deal with "increasing pressure on food security."

That said, it's worth noting that China is far from the only foreign investor with major land holdings in Africa today. Private and public investors from India, the United States, and the petrostates of the Middle East, to name a few, have taken their piece of the African land grab, which brought 15 to 20 million hectares of the continent under foreign investment between 2006 and mid-2009. By way of comparison, that's equal to the size of all the farmland in France. If Nooke is right about the connection between foreign investment and famine, seems like there's plenty of blame to go around.

German official blames China for Somalia's famine - By Edmund Downie | FP Passport
The point to note is that the Chinese govt's statement and the reality on ground is totally opposite.

Possibly it is difficult for China to handle the truth.

It time that foreign investors in making farm an industry, should have more equitable terms wherein famine and food shortages of the host country is avoided.

Any suggestions?
 

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Profit with no consideration for environment, rights, society is the order of the day for China.
 

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Local gov will be held responsible, not outside investors, if the Local gov failed to orgnize people to produce more efficiently, there is nothing anyone can do. China is a very good example for this, China has far less arable land per capital, but managed to produce enough to feed the mass population, and still can export or give relief, which is a phenomino and we should give a lot credit to Chinese gov for it's ability to manage and organize. The poorer a country is the more the country should apply centralized management system to avoid waste limited resources.
 

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Chinese think by paying money they will own a land in different country for their population to feed while local resident of that land die with hunger ............. if this worsens ppl will revolt and throw this chinese think tanks( who i think should get a mental check up)
out of their country......... and they have a right to do so
 

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Local gov will be held responsible, not outside investors, if the Local gov failed to orgnize people to produce more efficiently, there is nothing anyone can do. China is a very good example for this, China has far less arable land per capital, but managed to produce enough to feed the mass population, and still can export or give relief, which is a phenomino and we should give a lot credit to Chinese gov for it's ability to manage and organize. The poorer a country is the more the country should apply centralized management system to avoid waste limited resources.
Replace "investors" with "invaders" and you'd sound just like the British when they talk of their colonial injustices.
 

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There will come a day when these foreign holders get their land nationalised, it is the vicious cycle of Africa and not to be trusted.
 

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The Chinese believe in what Rev Desmond Tutu said, but the Chinese had their own version very similar that led to the starvation of the Africans through famine!

Rev Desmond Tutu had said:

"When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said, 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land."
The Chinese only believe in their own selfish interest and they have no heart!

Check their post, no remorse, no sadness.

Merely brush away the disaster and loss of lives by blaming the Africans.

Even for the Chinese train disaster they blamed the Japanese and the Swedish for the locomotives.

They can do no wrong.

They out Pope the Pope!

Totally Infallible!!
 
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They can do no wrong.

They out Pope the Pope!

Totally Infallible!!
No, you get them wrong. They never thought that is right either. They regard it as neccessary evil: develop themselves at the cost of others. After generations, people will forget it. That is the lessons they learned from west.

And I am sure india would join them very soon.
 

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No, you get them wrong. They never thought that is right either. They regard it as neccessary evil: develop themselves at the cost of others. After generations, people will forget it. That is the lessons they learned from west.

And I am sure india would join them very soon.
Typical Chinese obfuscation and deflection to prevent seeing the reality.

If West did something wrong, it does not mean one has to ape the West and then justify!

Some people are idiots. They don't know how to do anything without copying, without imitating, without plagiarizing, without aping. It might even have been that man invented generation by coitus after seeing the grasshopper copulate.
 

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No, you get them wrong. They never thought that is right either. They regard it as neccessary evil: develop themselves at the cost of others. After generations, people will forget it. That is the lessons they learned from west.

And I am sure india would join them very soon.
It is an inherently weak and pessimistic mentality to think that you cannot develop without suppreessing others. While this is not the first and last act of this kind in the world history; to try justify it in your manner is even more painful. Sad to know you have such mindset and no thanks we don't want to join you in this bath of tyranny. Don't you dare put me down at your level. We have our own path and will walk it as always have.

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Virendra
 

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another very disgusting claim by German officials. Ironically, the German national broadcasting company "Deutsche Welle" just saw the opposite: at least China does not have any big investment in land in eastern Afica; It's """"""INDIA and US"""""""" which are the biggest investors in eastern africa, especially in Ethiopia which has the worst famine conditions.

Please see these links:
中国是否为要为非洲之角的饥荒负责? | 新闻报道 | Deutsche Welle | 2011.07.28
this link is from the website of Deutsche Welle, German National Broadcasting Company. This interview was in Chinese. you can translate it into English using google.

Understanding Land Investment Deals in Africa: Ethiopia | oaklandinstitute.org
this link is about "Ethiopa Land Investment Report" by Oakland Institue, a US based think tank, which shows india and US are the biggest investors in Ethiopa. They do not find any big agricultural investments by China in eastern Afica!!!!!

the following are from the above Report (page 22 and page 23)

2.4 Who is Investing?
The vast majority of investors in Ethiopia are private
companies, mostly Indian. The OI research team did
not find any evidence suggesting that investment funds
or hedge funds were directly investing in assets in the
country. This does not preclude the possibility that such
funds are investing in companies that may be investing
in Ethiopian farmland. In addition, there was evidence of
only one or two countries directly investing in farmland
(Djibouti and Egypt).77 As all land is state-owned, all
investment deals are negotiated between investors and
either the federal or regional governments. There are no
deals between private individuals and investors, although
the transferability of commercial leases may lead to such
negotiations in the future.
Anuak women


Foreign Investors
While accurate and complete information on the home
locations of all private foreign investors was not available,
some trends emerge from available data. Geographically,
there appears to be substantial investment from the Gulf
States, as well as substantial investment from India (with
higher individual land holdings). While China is active
in the mining and infrastructure development sectors,
they were surprisingly absent from land investment
deals. Recent evidence suggests that a Chinese company
is posed to sign a 25,000 ha concession to produce
sugarcane in the Gambella region, and this companyclaimed to be the first agricultural company from China
investing in Ethiopia.79
 

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Typical Chinese obfuscation and deflection to prevent seeing the reality.

If West did something wrong, it does not mean one has to ape the West and then justify!

Some people are idiots. They don't know how to do anything without copying, without imitating, without plagiarizing, without aping. It might even have been that man invented generation by coitus after seeing the grasshopper copulate.
I wouldn't call that as copying. It is the same economic principle applied hundreds years ago. As long as you are going through the traditional industriilization path, you have to follow the same economic strategy: finding the resources and markets outside your border. The only difference is the west used gun while chineses use their cheque book.

Unless india can INVENT another development route as it claims: skip manufacturing stage and get into high-tech directly, such ugly thing would be inevitable. Now, it looks like inida is coming back to the traditional way: developing manufacturing first. So the question would be how india can find these resources and market it needs.
 

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the Indian do not have the guts to admit that they together with USA should be responsible for the famine in Ethiopia if """Ray""" believes that Land investments from foreigners are the main reason for famine

Because, you know, indian companies with wallstreet fat cats are the biggest foreign land investors in Ethiopia. Just check the Ethiopia Land Investment Report by USA based thinktank Oakland Institute from the following link

Understanding Land Investment Deals in Africa: Ethiopia | oaklandinstitute.org
 

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the Indian do not have the guts to admit that they together with USA should be responsible for the famine in Ethiopia if """Ray""" believes that Land investments from foreigners are the main reason for famine

Because, you know, indian companies with wallstreet fat cats are the biggest foreign land investors in Ethiopia. Just check the Ethiopia Land Investment Report by USA based thinktank Oakland Institute from the following link

Understanding Land Investment Deals in Africa: Ethiopia | oaklandinstitute.org
Typical Chinese.

Selective.

From your link on Ethiopia

In addition, since 2006-07, FDI from China, India, and the
Middle East has grown from 14 to 24 percent of total FDI,
and exports to these countries have increased from 23 to
33 percent
Now about having a overview of China and agriculture in Africa.

Tongzhi, let us look at Africa

China's eye on African agriculture
By Carl Rubinstein

China's growing appetite for African resources over the last decade is well documented. Indeed, China's massive industrial machine relies on oil from Angola, Sudan, and Nigeria, and minerals from South Africa, Zambia, and Liberia. While China maintains that its trade relationship with Africa is benign, some commentators see China's investment as a resource grab. In 2006, South African president Thabo Mbeki was notably frank when he warned that Africa could fall into a "colonial relationship" with China, leaving Africa "condemned to underdevelopment".

The latest iteration of the Sino-African relationship involves China's burgeoning interest in African agricultural resources. While some commentators have already labeled China's agricultural investment in Africa as self-serving, Chinese leaders are adamant that their actions are being misrepresented. (the usual Chinese whine). Is China's investment in African agriculture primarily self-interested? In order to better determine the nature and intention of China's food policy in Africa, it is necessary to examine the details and context of China's agricultural investment in Africa thus far.

High on the list of priorities within the Chinese central government is feeding China's 1.3 billion people. But with only 7% of the world's arable land, and the loss of over a million hectares of arable land annually to pollution and desertification, this is no simple task. The global food crisis of 2007-08 and rising food consumption in China only compound the problem. China's food vulnerabilities make securing agricultural assets abroad tempting.

Beginning in the early 1990s, China's interest in Africa increased considerably as China found an accessible source of oil and other raw materials with which to feed its rapidly growing economy. (stealing African resources, just like the Euorpean imperialists) Between 1995 and 2005, China provided at least US$12.5 billion in aid to Africa, canceled billions of dollars in debt, and constructed new roads, schools, government buildings, stadiums and hospitals across the continent. In return, Africa now supplies a third of China's oil.

Some critics have suggested China's investment and trade strategy is unfair and, ultimately, disadvantageous to Africa. Business partnerships are often vague, with loose promises of compensation and profit-sharing that never materialize. Chinese loans often stipulate that ensuing contracts must be awarded to Chinese firms and employ Chinese labor. The influx of Chinese labor and cheap Chinese goods that often follows has weakened local economies and caused unemployment in parts of the continent.

Furthermore, Western commentators have argued that Chinese loans and investments in certain countries - Angola for example - have undermined efforts by Western agencies to improve rule-of-law and government transparency. Many are also critical of China's relationship with Sudan, given the widespread unrest in western and southern Sudan. Among both international and African observers, detractors hold that despite the influx of capital it provides, China's investment in Africa is primarily driven by self-interest and is generally destabilizing.

Many commentators view China's recent agricultural investment in Africa in the same light. Specifically, some worry China will grow food in Africa with Chinese labor and Chinese technology, and then ship this food back to China for local consumption. With Africa the largest recipient of food aid in the world, the consequences of such action could be significant.

China has indeed begun to put down substantial agricultural roots on the African continent. China's investment in Mozambique illustrates both its commitment to the agricultural sector and the diversity of Chinese investment in Africa (Chinese are worried about the close realations to include military between India and Mozambique). Through a series of agreements, China has pledged $800 million to modernize Mozambique's agricultural infrastructure and has financed the building of a dam and canal to bring water to arable land. Additionally, at least 100 Chinese agricultural experts are stationed in several research stations within Mozambique, working with local groups to increase crop yield and otherwise improve the performance of the agricultural sector.

Chinese scientists, agricultural experts and farmers are becoming a common sight in Africa. One estimate from the Chinese Ministry of Commerce puts the number of Chinese experts in Africa at over 1,100 and the number of farm laborers at over 1 million, dispersed throughout 18 countries. These Chinese experts help maintain at least 11 agricultural research stations and no less than 63 agricultural investment projects scattered over southern and eastern Africa.

African commentators also worry about the tendency of African nations to part with their land at the cost of their agricultural security. A recent report written by two UN food policy centers indicated that the majority of land deals in Africa - including Chinese agreements - involve few if any land fees. Rather than collecting rent or fees, African governments settle for prospective employment gains and future economic benefits supposedly brought by foreign farming projects. The details of these arrangements are vague and often lack any guarantees of these potential benefits.

Furthermore, these loose arrangements almost never account for the needs of poorer Africans subsisting on the land prior to sale. While much of Africa's arable land is officially classified as "underutilized", this label largely excludes millions of family farms, small cattle-grazing fields, and even small village farms. Joachim von Braun highlights this risk in a report for the International Food Policy Research Institute, writing that "unequal power relations in the land acquisition deals can put the livelihoods of the poor at risk".

Commentators worry that Chinese-funded infrastructure projects will not bring jobs to Africans, and will instead award contracts to Chinese firms and laborers, as has been China's practice with other non-agricultural investment projects in Africa. As applied to the agricultural sector, this could affect not only farmers, agricultural specialists, and shipping companies, but contractors and construction workers associated with dams, canals, roads and factories as well.

Compounding suspicions of China's intentions is the fact that although rice is not a significant part of the typical diet in Mozambique, China is pouring considerable resources into increasing output of rice, a staple of the Chinese diet. To some, the implications are clear: China first and foremost seeks to secure as much rice crop as it can from Mozambique's farmland, and will advantage its own firms and workforce at the expense of those in Mozambique.

Given this stark assessment, many see China's agricultural investments in Africa as nothing more than a grab for cheap, underutilized land. Jacques Diouf, director of the UN's Food and Agricultural Organization has gone so far as to specifically label this type of aggressive land-leasing as "neo-colonialism".

The Chinese, however, protest at being labeled as exploitative and have played down the notion that their activity in Africa is self-interested. Not oblivious to being perceived as exploitative, one Chinese businessman recently said, "We have a large market in China, and here, there is the land and the workforce ... Have I come to exploit? On the contrary, I come to invest. I'm throwing money here." (Throw away money? How droll. Catch a Chinese not crowing for more money!

Many within China argue that moving a significant portion of its food-growing industry to Africa is unrealistic, citing poor infrastructure, high shipping costs, and unstable governments. Ministry of Agriculture official Xie Guoli recently stated, "It is not realistic to grow grains overseas, particularly in Africa or South America. There are so many people starving in Africa, can you ship the grains back to China? The cost will be very high as well as the risk."

In other words, even if China did intend to import large amounts of African grains, it would not be economically viable or efficient to do so.

Chinese investment is often geared directly at addressing Africa's hunger problems. For example, China plans to build an agricultural demonstration center in Mozambique that will test the durability of various crops that could be introduced to help feed the Mozambican population. In Kampala, China is funding projects to increase awareness of sustainable fishing practices in an effort to ease the overfishing of Lake Victoria - the source of much of the fish-heavy diet in Uganda.

On further review, China's investments strategies in Africa are not as self-serving as some critics argue. The discussion of China's desire to grow rice in Mozambique is incomplete without mention of China's recent attention to biotechnology and China's role in the biotech movement in general. (Bt and GM food are still under the scanner. So, Africans are China's guinea pigs!)

Over the last two decades, China has invested heavily in agricultural biotechnology, working with peanuts, peppers, tobacco, tomatoes, and other genetically modified organisms. Recently, this research has focused on engineering rice that is both tougher and healthier than traditional rice seeds. A recent report by the International Service for the Acquisition of Agribiotech Applications indicated that because of its implications for the world's hungry, rice is "the most important of the new biotech crops that are now ready for adoption".

In March 2009, the Chinese Academy of Agriculture (CCA) began a project funded by the Gates Foundation (note who is in league with the Americans!:confused:) entitled "Green Super Rice for the Resource Poor of Asia and Africa". The project will bring high-yield rice varieties designed to withstand drought, flooding, harsh weather, and various toxins, to seven African countries. Working with several international organizations - including the Africa Rice Center - the CCA estimates that the project will increase rice production by 20% and will help feed 20 million poverty-stricken farmers in participating countries.

Carl Rubinstein is with the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, DC.


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Note the racial undertones in the first part.

Note the rift between the Chinese and the Africans in the second part.


Is China colonising Africa?
Zambian Economist: Is China colonising Africa?

Same video. Check the African comments:

Mwata Chisha said...

It is a matter of time before history repeats itself. Nkrumah said, political independence without economic independence is meaningless. Africans are not free until they begin to negotiate contracts that largely benefit them. Handing over keys to the resources vaults is selling icalo that Mlevu warned us against.

Young African, stop dancing, stop singing. Listen to the planes landing, bringing people from distant places to come and take, take and take what is rightfully yours and pay you nothing in return. And take they will if you shine your teeth and not sharpen your senses. they will take it all and leave Africa barren.
18 October 2010 06:17
temmic said...

It is indeed sad very sad that we are seeing ourselves sold by the regime of nowadays!Its not only in Zambia, its almost the whole of Africa that at the plight of the bogus investors, the Chinese people, we see our lady, our labour sold! How far is the going to be, WE are tired of being sold in this contempoary times.Does our govts need us to raise wt pangas that we are tired. NO. NO but time wil tell that we shall raise one say and the peace we have embraced for long wil be long gone.
Worse stil, in Zambia, the bogus investors go to an extent of killing, shooting our miners.How far can this go, we are tired! Have our leaders been choked too much with the dust they are licking from the boots of the bogus investors?Have they put cotton wool in the ears that they cant listen to us?
Indeed, what we are seing now it the Politics of the stomach, as long as I am fed, others do not care, but is the normal of One Zambia One Nation.
Tembo Michael
18 October 2010 08:34
Also see in the video how the Chinese are throwing out the local from business by cheap and shoddy products from China, which are produced, as per the famed Chinese innovation method - copy!
 
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I miss the time when Hilary blamed India for the world famine, Hilary said Indians caused the world famine by starting to have three meals a day.
 

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I miss the time when Hilary blamed India for the world famine, Hilary said Indians caused the world famine by starting to have three meals a day.
Yes we have been causing famine for the past 5000 years.
 

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Isn't it Angela Merkel of Germany, not Hilary ?
 

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Quote Originally Posted by nimo_cn View Post
I miss the time when Hilary blamed India for the world famine, Hilary said Indians caused the world famine by starting to have three meals a day.

So, we should not eat three times a day?

Indian agricultural interest are commercial and it is cash crops oriented.

Check the link of twiceasgood or whatever poetic name the poster took.

So, those three meals a day is from crops of the Indian soil.

But note the greed of the Chinese who have gone to Africa which is ruining the reputation of China. And to top it, they are racists too! Obviously, the locals would be enamoured.

It is not that the Indian businessmen are angels, but maybe they don't look so 'foreign', they having been in Africa for ages and have become acceptable to the Africans and that is why they have less problems than the Chinese.

The Indians like to mix with the locals and interact.
 
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chinese buy resources from africa with money while westerners from EU bomb africa with bombers.......the difference to some extent is just as simple as that.
 

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