Gen VK Singh praises Pervez Musharraf's courage for crossing LoC

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  1. Sam2012

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    Former Pakistan military ruler Gen Pervez Musharraf on Friday received praise for coming deep into Indian territory in Kargil in 1999 from former Army Chief Gen V K Singh, who said it showed the "courage" of a military commander.

    Singh, who headed the Indian Army from 2010 to 2012, said there were "mistakes" on the Indian side that allowed Pakistani troops to cross over into Indian territory and let Musharraf go back safely.

    "As far as General Musharraf is concerned, I would like to put it in two ways. One, as a military commander, I would commend Gen Musharraf for coming 11 km (inside Indian territory) to stay with his troops for a night. It is the courage of a military commander that he came so far knowing that there was danger," Singh told reporters here.

    "Second, what was happening on our side you all know and facts are before you. Why did we allow him to go? Why did we allow them to enter? I would only say that there were some mistakes, which need to be rectified," he said.

    Singh was commenting on the revelation by a senior retired officer of Pakistan Army that Musharraf had stayed for a night inside Indian territory with his troops before the three-month conflict erupted in Kargil in 1999.

    The former Army Chief said the revelation was just a confirmation that Pakistan had started the Kargil war.

    "What happened in 1999, we including the Indian Army know that Pakistan Army had started the Kargil war. There is nothing new in it," Singh said.

    He said Pakistan had been telling lies and "now only its officials are confirming our stand."

    Musharraf had crossed the Line of Control in a helicopter and spent a night at a location 11 km inside Indian territory, weeks before hostilities erupted between Indian and Pakistani troops in the Kargil sector in 1999.

    Col (retd) Ashfaq Hussain, who was a senior officer in the Pakistan Army's media arm, said Musharraf flew across the Line of Control (LOC) on March 28, 1999 and travelled 11 km into the Indian side.

    He was accompanied by Brig Masood Aslam, then commander of 80 Brigade, spent the night at a spot called Zikria Mustaqar, where Pakistani troops commanded by Col Amjad Shabbir were present.

    Singh also said that Pakistani Army had to retreat during the war because they did not have the backing of the political decision making.

    "War is not fought by the military only, it has to have a backing of political decision making. The moment there was no backing of political decision making, they had to withdraw," the former General said.
     
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    What else he can say now all of his men were sleeping who were to be at watch when Pakistanis were having a picnic at our side of the border.
     
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    Was General V K Singh leading any troops in Kargil sector at the time ?
     
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    well if tru then yes its failure of our intleglence .
     
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    Gen. Malik praised Musharraf as well I thought the thread is all about the same. Never thought another General will do the same. What a shame.
     
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    I think it would be more graceful of the Generals to praise the enemy if they had done everything in their power and made no blunders.
    Being on a shaky ground and praising the enemy's merits is a bit over the top. Deosn't behove of the high standards IMO.
    Like if Maneckshaw praised his counterparts after winning the 71 war, it would be looked upon positively in the spirit of a fight well fought.
    But not if a General losing to China in 62 would do the same. Only sours the grapes even more.
     
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    Actually Kargil war itself shame on our Intelligence & Army , because we left the gate open to pakis to capture our post & army just denied incursion

    When Airforce was called in late then Army cheif Ved malik argued only Attack choppers are enough , but IAF had only Mi-35 Hind gunship which was not suituable fo high altitute , Kargil was start of turf war between IAF & IA atleast to public view which till now continues & hinders our defence prepardness

    We won 1971 war because IA, IAF & IN worked as one unit . Today we have cold war between our own Armed force which is not good
     
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    What Musharraf did was stupid and below the rank of a General of that strong an army in numbers and alleged power projection.

    Indian General should have been hunting him down when he did this and now be calling him top notch moron who entered the sovereign territory of Republic of India.
     
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    Did Mushy praise VK for letting him go? :hmm:
     
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    Rock may be mushy has to praise General Malik not VK Singh :thumb:
     
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    Never understood until now what Military Junta of Pakistan is capable of going to its own extent !!
     
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    Was he supposed to or expected....

    Many civilians on LoC cross over to Pakistan in the morning for their daily evolutions...
     
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    Hahahaha bro u got the tie breaker answer , infact it is thread breaker answer

    then Mushy = to common civilian :thumb:
     
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    The crossing over of LOC by musharaf by a helicopter and spending one night with his subordinates in the indian territory seems to be merely a fairy tale for me.I have my own reasons to believe that coz; the whole kargil operation was based on surprise and any attempt to cross border by musharaf means more burden to his men who covertly stays at indian positions mainly due to arranging security for him and any lapse during that could blow the surprise element of the whole operation and even may have caused an early martyrship of paki general.
     
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    Cant accept you contention that Kargil was a faliure of the ARMY . Agreed it was a Major INTEL failure but the army fought tooth and claw under self imposed adverse situations for regaining the lost ground. May be the only failiure of the ARMY was to actually expect a Paki to honour the unwritten agreement that those LOC peaks will not be occupied by both sides during peak winter. After all history tells us that lies and manipulation are the mothers milk for a Paki.

    Also the no crossing LOC severely limited the Role of the IAF with most of the theatre operation choices related to fielding of assest mostly left to the IAF itself and not the Army.
    Agreed we need more cohesion between forced. But it has to be studied and mature standard operational procedure that is evolved over time and not led by a Charimatic man who could bend all the forces like what happened in 71 maneckshaws time.
     
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