Gazwa-E-Hind (The Fakeness is strong with this one)

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    Ghazwa-e-Hind « Islam Ke Sipahi

    Mujahideen will conquer India

    By Islam Ke Sipahi

    David Ben Gurion speech:

    “The world Zionist movement should not be neglectful of the dangers of Pakistan to it. And Pakistan now should be its first target, for this ideological State is a threat to our existence. And Pakistan, the whole of it, hates the Jews and loves the Arabs. “This lover of the Arabs is more dangerous to us than the Arabs themselves. For that matter, it is most essential for the world Zionism that it should now take immediate steps against Pakistan. “Whereas the inhabitants of the Indian peninsula are Hindus whose hearts have been full of hatred towards Muslims, therefore, India is the most important base for us to work there from against Pakistan. “It is essential that we exploit this base and strike and crush Pakistanis, enemies of Jews and Zionism, by all disguised and secret plans.”

    - David Ben Gurion, the first Israeli Prime Minister. Quote from the Jewish Chronicle.

    David Ben Gurion was Israel’s first prime minister and here is a quote from him in 1967 when Pakistan had not even started working on its nuclear missiles, he clearly saw a threat coming from Pakistan and directed the Zionists to work with Hindus, meaning India to destroy Pakistan for them.

    In 1992 when BJP, a hardcore Hindu extremist group with strong connections with Zionists today had won the elections, a new connection between India and Israel was established and relations between the two countries has blossomed since then. BJP is a hardcore Anti-Islam organisation and has always opposed Pakistan and talked about war, however they follow Chanakya’s ideology and their mission is for the establishment of Akand Bharat which will be India stretched from Afghanistan to Sri Lanka as in Ashoka’s rein who the Hindu’s idolise to the extent that they have even included his logo on their national flag and included Ashoka’s four lions on the national emblem of India, hence we can understand why India has always been backing terrorism in these countries and the reason they have heavily supported terrorist organisations such as LTTE in Sri Lanka, TTP, BLP and BNP in Pakistan and why they have made such a huge presence in Afghanistan since 9/11 by constructing embassies and consulates all over the country. Therefore BJP was a goldmine for the Zionists as they can serve the agenda for them and both of them have one enemy which is Pakistan and today both have the same agenda to destroy Pakistan’s nuclear missiles, so both getting together should be no surprise. As they follow Chanakya’s ideology, the actions which they have done in the last few years should not come as a surprise either, as Chanakyas ideology is as follows. If you want to destroy your enemy first become friends with them, then stab them in the back and finish them and then cry at their funereal.

    Therefore we can understand why India had tried to strengthen relations with Pakistan while BJP was in power and why Prime Minister Vajpayee used to push both countries for peace talks. What did India gain from it? Everything, they got trade and had an access to culturally invade Pakistan with Bollywood and Indian media which has worked big time for them in the last few years. What did Pakistan gain? Nothing, another thing was that India lured thousands of Pakistanis to visit India and many of these people never came back, being kidnapped and got false accusations put on them of being terrorists, some got murdered like Ajmal Qasab and their identities were used in false flag attacks like the Mumbai Drama in 2008.

    Israel has had a very close relationship with India and has been providing the Indian military massive support and weapons, even India’s nuclear programme is known to be given to them by Israel. In 1996, the architect of India’s missile programme, and later the Indian President, A.P.J. Abdul Kalam made his first visit to Israel. It is ominous that in May 1998, India exploded five nuclear devices, out of which it is believed that at least one if not two were Israeli. Later on the Indians provided bases for the Israeli Air Force to target and try to destroy Pakistan’s nuclear programme the way they had destroyed the Iraqi atomic reactors in 1981, however this time it failed as Pakistani nuclear scientists risked their lives and stood around Chagai Hills and launched Pakistan’s first nuclear tests despite warnings coming from the intelligence agencies that Israeli aircrafts were ready to take them out, which later declared to the world that Pakistan had become a nuclear power.

    In the last few years we have seen this relationship between Israel and India blossom even further and Israel has started to provide unprecedented funding and equipment to India which can indicate they are preparing for a war, two attempts have already been made when India did false flag attacks on its parliament buildings in 2002 and Mumbai attacks in 2008 and tried to build war hysteria, however a ruthless response from the Pakistan Army and people of Pakistan had prevented them from doing so. Britain’s authoritative and respected defence publication, Jane’s Terrorism & Security Monitor, reports that Israel and India have formed a military relationship and that Israeli intelligence is active in Occupied Kashmir. Over the last few years despite Israel having no interest at all in Kashmir, Israel’s army chief has visited Occupied Kashmir numerous times, the report in the Jane’s Information Group continues saying Israel has several teams now in Kashmir training Indian counter-insurgency forces to fight the dozen separatist guerrilla groups operating in the Indian-controlled sector of the disputed state.

    Both countries having nuclear technology and powerful militaries can result in a bloody mess however this would suit Israel completely as they could care less if India is destroyed as they have taken over India’s economic and military establishments only to fuel a war between the Hindus and Muslims and will use India to go in the war and keep Israel out of it so they can keep Israel safe from any big damage. David Ben Gurion clearly directed the Zionists to make India a base for them which we can see today as Zionists have full control over major trading establishments in India and supports and funds India’s military and intelligence agency RAW.

    Jane’s Information Group, the world’s premier intelligence information source, ominously reported in July 2001 that “The Indian spy agency RAW and the Israeli spy agency Mossad have created four new agencies to infiltrate Pakistan to target important religious and military personalities, journalists, judges, lawyers and bureaucrats. In addition, bombs would be exploded in trains, railway stations, bridges, bus stations, cinemas, hotels and mosques of rival Islamic sects to incite sectarianism.” We can see this plan today working in Pakistan, were they had tried to push Pakistan in a civil war with numerous bomb blasts and sectarian violence in the last few years.

    India has also started a new campaign of blocking Pakistan’s rivers by building illegal dams on the rivers which will steal Pakistan’s waters and is already turned some of Pakistan’s agricultural lands barren, making Pakistan lose tons of crops at a time of food shortages in the country. They are building Dams on all rivers flowing into Pakistan from occupied Kashmir to control the waters of western rivers which goes against the Indus Treaty and World Bank has approved these dams. This is being done under a well thought out strategy to render Pakistan’s link-canal system redundant, destroy agriculture of Pakistan which is its mainstay and turn Pakistan into a desert. The most interesting thing is that India has even convinced American puppet Karzai to build a dam on the Kabul River in Afghanistan which flows into Pakistan, which India will fund and construct. There objective is clearly to block Pakistan’s rivers from both sides which is a pure act of terrorism.

    The Americans are also now using India to target and destabilize Pakistan and get to Pakistan’s nuclear weapons, after 9/11 when America invaded Afghanistan and setup a base there, India also went into Afghanistan and has setup a huge presence there which goes ignored in the media. The main thing they did was exploit America’s war on terror and create a fake Taliban which they named Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) to attack Pakistan which was headed by Baitullah Mehsud. His own relatives like Zainuddin Mehsud have exposed him as an Indian agent, who was later assassinated by Baitullah Mehsud for exposing him and the Pakistan Military has recovered tons of Indian weapons from the TTP in the ongoing operation in Waziristan and the previous operation in SWAT which revealed there were Indians there supporting the TTP (click here for more and here) These criminals have been brainwashing children and bombing the whole country including mosques and killing Ulemas who expose and put fatwa’s on them. The Americans and Indians have very cleverly used our own weapons against us, the mujahedeen by planting there agents here and brainwashing Pakistan’s children to destabilize the country and target the Pakistan Military and their main objective is to get to Pakistan’s nuclear weapons, which can only happen once the country is in civil war and broken up into smaller states.

    India now has huge involvement in Afghanistan, where they have setup embassies and consulates all over the country and have sent over 10,000 soldiers just to protect their assets there, the involvement is so huge that they are controlling the whole government of Karzai and have even setup and funded the Afghanistan intelligence agency ‘Rama’ which itself is named after a Hindu god. Why would a Muslim country like Afghanistan establish an intelligence agency and call it Rama, the answer is simple, this has been made by the Indians to simply target Pakistan and do all their work for them as RAWs game is now being exposed.

    The arrival of Dajjal and the conquest of India

    As we know the Jews are awaiting their messiah, who will be none other than the Dajjal who should emerge from Israel and rule from there and it would make perfect sense that once he emerges and before he emerges India will play a big role in preparing for his arrival, mainly in removing barriers before his arrival i.e. Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal, and after he emerges they should defend him with the Jews and the Christians from the Muslims. Therefore India’s role in Dajjal’s plans are very important as there is a strong nexus which has been built by the Jews and the Hindus, and the Hindus have become a part of their plan.

    According to most scholars Dajjal is near his emergence and all the chaos you are seeing in the world is a consequence of that and a war between Pakistan and India now and the expanding wars in the middle east could start another world war.

    However Allah has his own plans.

    ‘And (the unbelievers) plotted and planned, and Allah too planned, and the best of planners is Allah’

    - The Quran, 3:54

    Ghazwa-e-Hind

    Thawban (RA) narrated that the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace be upon him) said, “Two groups of my Ummah Allah has protected from the Hellfire – a group that will conquer India and a group that will be with ‘Esa son of Maryam (AS)”

    - Sunan Nasai,

    Abu Huraira (RA) said, “The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace be upon him) promised us the conquest of India. If I was to come across that event, I will spend my soul and wealth. If I am killed then I am among the best of martyrs. And if I return then I am Abu Huraira (RA) who has been freed from the fire of hell.”

    - Sunan Nasai,

    Na’im, son of Hammad in al-Fitan reports that, Abu Huraira said that the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace be upon him) mentioned India and said, “A group of you will conquer India, Allah will open for them (India) until they come with its kings chained – Allah having forgiven their sins – when they return back (from India), they will find Esa son of Maryam in Syria.”

    - Kitab Al Fitan

    India is a fitna, which is being supporting by the Zionists to destroy Muslims, this has turned into a proxy war where the Zionists fund and support India to destroy the Muslims. India itself was a Muslim country until the British invaded it and before they left they gave all the power to the Hindus and tried their best to bring the Muslims down, thankfully to Allama Iqbal, Muhammad Ali Jinnah and the Pakistan Movements efforts the Muslims got Pakistan. This storey may sound familiar to some people as today history is repeating itself, what is happening today has already taken place 1,400 years ago, this is not the first time the Jews and the Hindus (idol worshippers) have made a nexus, today we are only seeing a repeat of what happened 1,400 years ago, to understand this we have to go back in history and analyze what happened 1,400 years ago when Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) emerged in Mecca.

    1,400 years ago, Mecca was occupied by idol worshippers, Muslims to save themselves from the idol worshippers left Mecca, went and established Madina, an Islamic ideological state. This was the first ever state made on the ideology of Islam. This is the complete same story of Muslims in Pakistan. Here there is India like Mecca is dominated by idol worshipers, Muslims to save themselves from the idol worshipers leave India and like Madina establish Pakistan, a state made on the ideology of Islam, this is the only state made on the ideology of Islam after Madina, which makes it the second state to be made on the ideology of Islam.

    After the Muslims migrated to Madina there were various wars that took place between the Muslims of Madina and the idol worshipers in Mecca until a final showdown where Mecca was eventually captured by the Muslims. This is the exact same situation between India and Pakistan where they have been fighting and fighting for the last 60 years and now a final showdown awaits where like Madina, Pakistan will conquer India as according to the sayings of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

    Pakistan has a very striking resemblance with Madina and it’s not only its history. Madina’s real name is Madina-e-Tayyab, which are two Arabic words. Madina means a place where people live while Tayyab is the first kalma, LA ILAHA ILL ALLAH MUHAMMADUR RASOOL ALLAH, There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. The meaning of Tayyab is purity. While Pakistan is also composed of two words, Pak-i-stan, which are Persian words. Stan means a place where people live while Pak is the first kalma in Persian and means purity. Pakistan converted into Arabic becomes Madina-e-Tayyab and Madina-e-Tayyab converted into Persian becomes Pakistan. There is a lot of mysticism involved in this as Pakistan is Madina-e-Sani. This is a blessed land created by Allah which came into existence on the 27th night of Ramadan.

    The writer is the chairman of Islam Ke Sipahi.
     
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    Kshatriya87 Senior Member Senior Member

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    Fractions of this article are true. But the brainwashing falseness escalates till a whole new level.
     
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    This what propaganda means. Mixing false with half truth and pass it off as facts.

    I feel this is a propaganda material.
    Specially made by pak to feed there jahil awaam to keep them in dark and anti india. I dont feel a moderate educqted paki might belive in this obvious propaganda material though.
     
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    I hope that gullible people from across the border dont blow themselves up in middle of market after reading this in fit of rage.
     
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    Kshatriya87 Senior Member Senior Member

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    That's exactly the aim of this mythical prophecy. It definitely seems to have been fabricated to brainwash people and wage a war against us.
     
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    Check that link buddy. Its full of this sh*t.
     
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    Ashutosh Lokhande Senior Member Senior Member

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    @Neo your views on these articles?
     
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    Ya i know. :tsk:
     
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    B.S who said these hadees are true??

    Even if the Hadees are there who said Qur'an is the ultimate??
     
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    Read the post below
     
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    It is a famous fake quote manufactured by the Pakistanis. c.f. Evidence 1 & Evidence 2

    1. Indians have never wished to expand their territory into other countries.

    2. Ashoka was not a Hindu. If all Indians are such Hindutva fanatics, why would they idolise someone who was a Buddhist?

    3. Ashoka's chakra on the national flag is not a logo endorsing Ashoka.

    4. The four lions in the Lion capital of Ashoka (which made its way into the emblem) clearly represent the Four Noble Truths in Buddhism. c.f. The Four Noble Truths of Buddhism

    5. India has never actively supported any Terrorist organization in Pakistan. We are cautious of the threat that they will pose to us as well. Unlike Pakistan.

    6. As a regional neighbour, India has taken responsibility of helping Afghanistan to recover from decades of terrorism and war. Must we remind the Pakistanis that they and CIA were the reason the AQ and Taliban grew powerful in Afghanistan and continue to torture the people there?

    7. India has never wanted to destroy Pakistan's nuclear arsenal. India has declared a no-first-use for its nuclear weapons - we will not use them unless you use them first.

    8. Pakistan's nuclear missile delivery systems are unproven. Compare to the AGNI family, Prithvi, K-series etc. which have been continuously tested and perform at a very high level of accuracy. c.f. Hatf-V.

    You should be able to find details of our missile tests on DRDO, albeit with some amount of searching. India's success with rocket and satellite launches clearly shows that our capability to make ballistic missiles (which exit the earth's atmosphere and then re-enter it) is good. The fact remains that Pakistan's propaganda sector is jealous.

    9. India has always strived to maintain friendly relations with all other countries, and we have never 'back-stabbed' any country. If the Pakistani propagandists can provide proof of their claim (They can never do it) I will accept their ridiculous claim.

    10. While Pakistan is drowning itself in delusions about Ghazwa-e-Hind, India is taking an effort to have diplomatically strong relations with all our neighbours including adversaries. Vajpayee had no agenda but to encourage peace, and Pakistan back-stabbed him by planning Kargil when he was in Pakistan for peace talks. c.f. 1999 Kargil conflict.

    A note-worthy passage from Global security's article:

    Q.E.D.

    11. India exports far more to Pakistan than they do to us. The only noteworthy things India imports from there are Petroleum and cement, both of which can be gotten from elsewhere. Pakistan imports refined Petroleum, products made from Petroleum, Coal tar and chemicals, dyes etc. India imports raw materials, while Pakistan imports semi-finished materials and consumables. c.f. Trade between India and Pakistan

    A very old article, but worth reading.

    12. India has no compulsion to export our movies and media. It is the Pakistani people who are choosing to watch them. Ask them why.

    13. 10000 page long chargesheet with evidence, eye-witness proof and CCTV footage was sent to Pakistani court by the Indian special court which was looking into the case. They did not even bother to see it and gave Hafiz Saeed a clean chit. Clearly the Pakistani judicial system is scared of the LeT, AQ, Taliban etc. and are unable to take action against them due to the govt's or ISI's interference. c.f 26/11 charge-sheet and Role of Saeed, Lakhvi.

    We can only do so much.

    14. Claiming that 26/11 was fake is something I do not want to comment on. I thought the Pakistani terrorists could not achieve a further low. I was wrong. Their crap only defames their nation and the 'holy war' they claim to be running by the will of Islam.

    The rest will come tomorrow.
     
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    Of course I do not believe in it. It clearly looks like something fabricated by Pakis to recruit Jihadis. The fractions I was talking about is our interest in Afghanistan and our investments there. Those are true, rest all is bullshit.
     
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    I have read the Quran. It clearly states that Jesus and Prophet Mohammed are brothers from different mothers. Their father is God/Allah. What surprises me is that at the end of this prophecy it says that Jesus will ride on a horse and kill Dijjal (prophesised Jew god). WHY? Why would Jesus help the muslims when they are killing Christians all the time?
     
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    Dajjal* (in my comment above)
     
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    You are correct !!

    There are verses in Qur'an which say never take Christians and Jews as your companions, But in the end of days prophesies (hadees) Qur'an says Jesus will support Muslims, this is a contradiction. Why would Jesus leave his followers and join Muslims?

    (the answer from muslims will be that Islam came after Christianity and their doctrine is the main one,if Jesus thinks that his teachings will be outdated in 6 centuries then he must have said that. )

    There is a higher world where Brahma(GOD) and Atma can be seen if one meditates. Since the senses the humans posses have limited capability to see these things, people should meditate for this sense to be incorporated into human body. The one who meditates and searches for light of GOD and attains enlightenment is called a "Rishi". Once this enlightenment is attained then he will know the absolute truth, how this world is functioning and have vast knowledge of everything.

    The one who was chosen by GOD and thrown some light on him is called a prophet (as per my understanding). So based on Vedic teachings these phenomena will occur until humans exist on this planet there are prophets after Mohammed and there are people who got enlightened in 19th and 20 th century (Swami Vivekanada and Sai Baba).

    Abrahamic religions ask people to follow what GOD says through their (the so called Son of GOd)/Prophet that too people have to follow their doctrine. Some times the holy figures may wrongly interpret what they have seen/experienced based on their back ground and understanding.

    Contrary to that Hinduism teaches humans, how to attain enlightenment(enabling their 6th or 7th sense, I have no idea) and see/experience GOD.

    Vedas are the collection of these experiences of the Rishis about GOD and this world when seen through these enlightened/attained senses after they meditated and attained enlightenment.(100 or more Rishis,at the end of each verse quoted, the name and family tree of that particular Rishi is mentioned).


    Buddha did the same.Same is told in Jainism and Sikhism "path of absolute truth".

    These Rishis(includes women also) know that any one who attains enlightenment can see GOD(GOD is not ones own property), reason why Dharmic people(including Hindus) who follow these Rishis teachings believe in Muslim GOD, Christianity and are also comfortable praying them.One of the main reason for tolerance in Hinduism.

    It is not that Hindus or Dhramic religions have weak religious fundamentals. These Rishis are liberal since they know the absolute truth.

    Any one who uses GOD and try to impose their doctrine is simply lying.
     
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    @Kshatriya87 and @srinivas since you guyz have read and understood quran i want to ask you what does the book has to say about hindus?
     
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    According to Quran those who do not believe in

    1) Allah is the GOD.

    2) Mohammed is his messenger.

    If one do not accept any of the phrases he must be declared as Kufar.

    There are verses in Quran about Kufars.

    When muslims are weak then live peacefully with kufars, when muslims are majority either convert kufars or force them to migrate from the lands or kill them.
     
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    1. Why is it a contradiction ? Jesus is a prophet of Islam, and Mohmad is the last prophet.

    2. Not true. Muslims believe that Islam was the first religion, which was later corrupted by humans (which is why prophets had to be sent.)
     
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    Mohammed says that, But Jesus never says that neither he says Islam should be followed after 6 centuries.

    Did Adam and Eve follow the teachings of Quran??
     
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