Gandhi clan blamed for keeping India in poverty

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  1. Vyom

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    (Reuters) - The Gandhi dynasty that has ruled India for most of the 64 years since independence has kept the world's largest democracy in poverty, members of Anna Hazare's team said on Monday as they prepared renewed rallies to target the government on corruption.

    A three-day fast led by the 74-year-old activist and a plan for thousands of people to picket the home of Congress party leader Sonia Gandhi on New Year's Eve will be a test of strength for the anti-corruption movement that forced a government U-turn in the summer.

    "India was not destined to be a poor country, India was destined to be a developed country but corruption has kept it poor," said Kiran Bedi, a member of Hazare's inner circle.

    "Who has exercised corruption? The party in power, and the party in power for the majority of the years has been the Congress party and in
    the Congress party, the Gandhi family."

    India's fast-growing economy is Asia's third largest but many of the country's 1.2 billion people suffer from inadequate nutrition and have no electricity.

    Hazare plans to begin his hunger strike in Mumbai on Tuesday. Almost 100,000 people have signed up online to express support for the three-day "fill the jails" protest picketing politicians homes and courting arrest.

    A fast led by Hazare in August brought tens of thousands of people onto the streets. After initially arresting him and dismissing him as an anarchist, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's government caved in to his demands to quickly pass a tougher version of anti-graft legislation first proposed decades ago.

    The protests also triggering an ongoing debate about the nature of India's democracy. Hazare's supporters say voting in elections must be supplemented by direct pressure on politicians, while traditional parties say the protests risk "mobocracy."

    "If hundreds of thousands of people coming onto the street can't get their government to hear their voices, there is something seriously wrong with the way our democracy is being implemented," close Hazare aide Arvind Kejriwal told Reuters.

    Corruption scandals have tainted Singh's second term, with a multi-billion dollar telecoms scam landing a former minister and other senior officials in jail.

    The focus on the Gandhi family drew criticism from the ruling Congress party, which accused the protesters of being a front for the opposition.

    Hazare and his aides have turned their fire on Sonia Gandhi and her son Rahul ahead of five state elections in the next two months, accusing the family of amassing too much power and watering down a bill in parliament for a powerful ombudsman to tackle graft.

    The protesters are pressuring parliament to bring the federal police force under the remit of the ombudsman, along with other demands.
    Parliament is due to debate the bill on Tuesday.

    "There are one or two people in the ruling party who run the government and run the parliament," this is not democracy, Kejriwal said.
    Three of India's prime ministers since the end of colonial rule in 1947 have come from the family.

    Sonia Gandhi is widely considered to be at least as powerful as Singh in the current government, and her son is being groomed to lead the country in the future.

    The Gandhis enjoy almost regal status, and direct criticism of them is rare outside of political campaigns.

    Rahul Gandhi is now running the party's campaign ahead of an election in Uttar Pradesh, the country's most populous state, in February.
    Hazare threatens to campaign against Congress in Uttar Pradesh and four other state elections to be held in the next two months that will serve as a barometer of the government's support half way through its term.

    "The entire movement has raised very serious and fundamental issues about India's democracy," Kejriwal said.
    "Is it really by the people, of the people, for the people, or by the party high command, of the party high command, for the party high command?"

    (Reporting By Frank Jack Daniel; Additional reporting by Annie Banerji; Editing by Ted Kerr)

    Gandhi clan blamed for keeping India in poverty | Reuters
     
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    It is true that a vast majority of the blame for India's lack of development can be laid at the doorstep of the NehruGandhi family. That is why I always say that the "Hindu rate of growth" should be called the "NehruGandhi rate of growth" henceforth.

    But Anna Hazare ought to have kept this apolitical. From the last 2 weeks, there have been too many open mentions of Congress and Gandhi family by members of the Anna team. This is going to end up doing severe harm to his movement. I don't know what they were thinking when they decided to go down this route.
     
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    You need to fix the blame where it lies, why should anyone be afraid to call spade a spade?
     
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    and will kiran bedi and team anna explain how the hell they are getting money to feed volunteers with good food in their anshans, how they are managing thousands if not lakhs of people across whole of India when all the other parties failed to do so with known resources on the issues of inflation and high prices which hit common man head on and the most.

    if he can draw millions out of home for this why not he mobilized people of his own village to go against this gandhi party?
     
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    ^^^^well if government has any doubt about funding or if team anna is using any wrongdoing then they should carry out proper investigation why cam in media and ask. And fact remains socialiest form of governanace adopted durning 70-80 were unnecessary .

    another fact nothing happens in congrees untill and unless some one form gandhi agrees
     
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    Actually, the whole issue has been made murky because this movement is snowballing into a serious one and that is dangerous for any govt to handle.

    It is being made murkier with allegations and disinformation or so it appears.

    The aim is to confuse the issue so that there is no solution and all meander through this fog and get tired of the whole thing!

    And we all end up where we started!

    Jai Ho! and all that!
     
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    Congress without Nehru-Gandhi dynasty , will be the best congress for India .
     
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    But "Ray Sir" it is correct that the Gandhi clan has been keeping the INDIANS from not getting what they really deserve and are and have looted the money of INDIANS. During the emergency, Sanjay Gandhi by the orders of Indra Gandhi, his mother, went and looted the Raja Savay Man Singh Palace and took the lloted money to an undisclosed foreign country. The information about this has already been posted in DFI. Not only that during the Congress tenure as GoI there have been multi-core scam that which have come to light and there may more which have not come to light and went UN-noticed. I don't say that during the other regimes there were no scams, but there was no such a huge money laundering, or direct involvement of cabinet ministers in the scam, as the likes of the Congress led governments. What is wrong in bringing these things to light ?

    But I agree with you as the blame games will not lead to a solution as everyone will only point there fingers to others and this thing is an never ending issue of any country in the present world scenario.
     
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    gandhi family get votes from the masses, they are not dictators. if people don't like them then they should be voted out.
    if people are fools to keep voting them time again. is mayawati good for UP ? is laloo prasad good for bihar. is mulayam singh also good for U.P. who votes them in time and again. it's the people. until people realiase this you can keep blaming, but it won't go anywhere.
     
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    That is what I said, that this blame game will never end at all. Please read the post until the end and then give a response Sir.
     
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    I am not too sure of the issues that has been stated.

    Politicians will be politicians. They will ensure that they use every trick in the pack to keep their gaddis. That is natural.

    If the Nehru Gandhi has got prominence, it is because JL Nehru was given the pedestal inherited during and after the Independence Movement and he capitalised on that and his legacy is followed by his family.

    Our political parties hardly have agendas that appeal and so most like to follow the trend and so what the Gandhi Nehru family has to say or do, is taken by the large majority of India as Thus Spake India!!

    But then, that is life.

    The Anna movement is against corruption as also a latent desire to shake India from its status quo attitude.
     
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    So if congress candidate wins than the victory goes to Gandhis , bcz they did visit that place . If the candidate looses than he / she lost bcz of , he / she didn't work hard to get the votes . Gandhis did catch people but candidate failed to convert them in votes ?

    So win - win for Gandhi ?

    Its a PROPAGANDA of congress that , Gandhi family get votes from the masses .
     
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    I don't think that the Congress won their seats in West Bengal because of the Gandhi name!

    In fact, they did better since they hitched onto Mamata Bannerjee's bandwagon.
     
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    The whole Gandhi family exist in the very country just because of the name Gandhi and the family is actually not related in anyway to the real Gandhi. Gandhi adopted Feroz Khan for the sake of Indra and not for creating a brand name Gandhi. These so called Gandhis are using the name for their own political gains.
     
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    Yesterday, while surfing the channels, I saw Varun Gandhi being interviewed on two channels.

    I was curious and so watched since his speech during the elections was rather unholy.

    I was surprised to note that he appeared quite sane and extraordinarily sincere wherein he had no hesitation to state that his views on quota within a quota even though contrary to the BJP view, was what he stood for.

    He was awfully soft spoken and he even had good words for Rahul Gandhi, Akhilesh Singh and other young politicos.

    There was none of the hate and rancour that one finds when politicians air their views.
     

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