Game theory- Why Hindus should vote out BJP in all local elections

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  1. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

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    May 2014 was the time when Hindus thought that their time has finally come when they gave overwhelming majority to BJP in Lok Sabha elections. Sadly the dream did not last for too long as it is already two years since LS elections but there is hardly anything concrete on the ground which can be used to say that BJP has worked on pro-Hindu agenda. Yes, it is not anti-Hindu like Congress but it has hardly shown any respect to genuine Hindu agenda. RTE is still hounding Hindu schools, temple money is still looted by the government and on top now NGOs and courts are mounting direct assault on local Hindu traditions like Jallikattu, Shani temple or Sabrimala. We hear noises about students shouting anti-national slogans in JNU but none of the ring masters got sacked nor any changes made to history books. On top Smriti Irani boasts it as her achievement that she has not yet touched the books circulated by UPA government.

    What makes it worse is the meek behaviour of BJP which does not think even once before abandoning its real Hindu followers. It has started to think that it was the development plank which made it win the last elections and it will make it win again in the future. Seems like BJP is hell bent on following the course it charted during 2004 elections by projecting “India Shining” and getting dumped by the voters. So not only BJP has distanced itself from supporters like Kamlesh Tiwari in real world, but also frequently disowns its SM followers. Look at this article to understand how Chandan Mitra abused BJP’s SM supporters by calling them “jobless”.


    The reason that the core Hindus find themselves in this position is because BJP knows that these supporters have no outside option other than BJP. All other options like electing Congress are not only anti-Hindu but they are also much more disastrous to the economy. So BJP thinks it has a captive vote base as hardcore Hindus have no where else to go. Also, since BJP still follows the left dominated liberal agenda once the elections are over these Hindus are increasingly seen as a liability rather than an asset. This explains why Chandan Mitra and Anurag Thakur like career politicians don’t think twice before abusing them.

    So, what is the way out? Core Hindus cannot let BJP walk around and renege on all the election promises. Thankfully Game Theory comes to our rescue. Dharmics need to use “Stick and Carrot” principle from Game Theory to discipline BJP’s behaviour. In simple words how does Stick and Carrot principle work? Imagine you are the manager and have to ensure that the interests of your employees are aligned with your goals. Simple way to ensure this is to reward them for good behaviour(carrot) while punish them for bad behaviour(stick). Sticking to just rewards or punishment will not ensure good behaviour.

    In BJP’s case electoral wins serve as carrot but their is no stick to punish them when they deviate from the ideal behaviour. This means Hindus need to act strategically and develop a stick to beat down BJP into submission so that it implements their agenda. BJP thinks that its Hindu voters are captive and have no other choice and hence can take their support for granted. This needs to change and Hindus need to punish BJP for bad behaviour. Carrot is more than evident in this case, which is 2019 LS elections. But what should be this punishment or stick?

    Core strategy:

    1. Punish BJP for all deviations from Hindu agenda by defeating them in all local body elections till 2019 to send a message to their local leaders. This will generate a feedback from the ground that BJP cannot take Hindus for granted. The small BJP leaders get benefit from local elections and so local elections matter a lot to them. Also, they need to be motivated for campaigning in big elections so top BJP leaders need to keep them in good humour. So, if you defeat these foot soldiers it will send a direct message to the high command in BJP that Hindus are not stupid.
    2. Let BJP win state elections so that it does not have the excuse of no majority in Rajya Sabha. Although, this is a bad excuse because like Congress, BJP too could have used CBI to implement its agenda like in case of Mamta by pushing her against the wall in Sharda Scam. Since BJP fanboys almost always cite this reason for BJP’s inaction so it is essential to give them a chance to have majority in RS. Although, it is most likely BJP would do nothing even with RS majority given how it has kept quiet on all core Hindu issues. For eg- Temple control and RTE are not even anti-minority issues to be shot down in RS if BJP plays its cards well. But probably the top BJP leaders themselves believe in left dominated liberal agenda and want to reform dirty Hindus. In any case, give them one chance to prove themselves by giving them a majority in RS.
    3. Defeat high profile traitors like Jaitley, Fadnavis etc. in state as well as national elections. There should be zero tolerance for high profile sell-outs. Make sure that Dev Fadnavis should be destroyed for his weak kneed response on Shani temple issue so that this champagne sipping, Christian in outlook and Hindu in colour leader loses his deposit next time. Shivraj should be defeated for selling out Hindus on Bhojshala issue. Similar punishment should be meted out to Jumla Rajnath and Jumla Irani for their inaction. Let local parties like Shiv Sena and other pro-Hindu parties win on seats against these big shots to send a clear message that Hindus have zero tolerance for deviation. Also ensure that hard core Hindus like Uma Bharti and Yogi Adiyanath are elected with thumping majority to send an even more clear message.
    Also economic right is still a minuscule fraction of the BJP supporters as most of its supporters are actually core Dharmics. So core Dharmics have all the shots to call. Punishing local BJP leaders in the local elections will not dampen our efforts to implement pro-Hindu policies at the top either. So this game is for Hindus to win. It is about time Hindus stopped complaining about democracy and started using democracy to their advantage.

    Sticking to the above strategy will give Hindus a say in the formation of policies post elections and keep the top BJP leaders on tight leash. They should be given the choice between perform or perish. Well, some losers like Arun Jaitley will still make it to the cabinet but if all of the top guys lose for abandoning Hindu agenda it will send a clear message. And sending the message is the most important task in democracy. If 15% Muslims can enforce their agenda and make politicians dance to their tunes, there is no reason that Hindus can’t do it if they are strategic. And if Hindus stick to this carrot and stick approach, if BJP won’t deliver for core Hindus then some other party will rise to fulfil our political agenda.

    http://yugaparivartan.com/2016/04/1...s-should-vote-out-bjp-in-all-local-elections/
     
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  3. harsh

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    Man this shows the sick mentality of reporter

    Is he indian ????
    He don't even know that in indian election local issues are different from national elections.

    He don't know hindu don't vote as a bunch. Every state has its own issues and they vote according to it.

    He don't even have an idea why modi win in haryana jharkhand maharastra and so many states.
    Only 2 states loss here.
    He completely miss everything about indian elections.
     
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  4. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Sakal Gharelu Ustad Detests Jholawalas Moderator

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    You did not get it. Some articles are normative and others positive. That is some explain- how the world is and other on how the world should be.

    This one is not explaining how india works, but on how it should work!
     
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    Ancient Indian Unplugged Version Senior Member

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    So in other words, the writer let out a farticle to vent out his frustration over the whole things.

    I like to know who the heck this writer is. He is constantly playing drums at just the edge off the zone.
     
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    Sakal Gharelu Ustad Detests Jholawalas Moderator

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    Yes. Seems not everyone is satisfied with BJP forgetting to repeal RTE and forcing Hindu kids to go to missionary/madarsa schools.

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    Ancient Indian Unplugged Version Senior Member

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    God bless those Everyone whose life is hanging by thread of RTE repeal.

    The author doesn't care who rules the state as long as he has what he wants. It shows his concern about the whole affairs. It is the problem with these so called educated people.
    They don't know what matters. All they fix on is their presence.

    People always want to take shortest route to be shown in lime light. Most of them want to associate with the drama either as supporter or critic.

    The perks of being critic.
     
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    Sakal Gharelu Ustad Detests Jholawalas Moderator

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    Did you even read it properly or you have comprehension issues? The author clearly says local elections i.e. municipality/panchayats.

    There is strict mention about need for RS majority.
     
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    I read that article and my first thought was whether this is a joke.
    My second thought was if it was written by a complete moron.

    Politics is never a zero sum game.
     
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    abingdonboy Senior Member Senior Member

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    Modi may have disappointed on some levels but he is FAR better than any other option India has today and for the forseeable future. What is the alternative? Rahul Gandhi? If India wants to be set back 20 years go ahead, elect that joker.

    This is not the time to start engaging in BS "game theory" at the poll booth.
     
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    Mikesingh Senior Member Senior Member

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    Spot on! There's the TINA factor - There Is No Alternative! RaGa? Nitish? Lalu? Who? None of them can hold a candle to Modi. Period!
     
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    I think you have correctly put that into words. Nobody is saying Modi is perfect.. but he is way way better that whatever available in market...
     
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    The post clearly explains need of local RW other than BJP. It is not asking hindus to turn to lalu, raga, mamta, kejri who are extreme left in my opinion.

    BJP is taking hindus for granted because of their monopoly in RW and neglecting legitimate Hindu issues. Simplifying the logical thinking, competition can be good even for RW. For this to happen first hindus need to priortize their own RW agenda and should exhibit that they can vote as block. I don't see that happening right now. At least, we should start off by asking local footmen what happened to UCC, freedom of temples, RTE when they come begging for vote:laugh:.

    In fact I remember what Mad had predicted that Hindus need a smarter RW party otherwise Hindus are screwed for sure. Unless normal office going assholes like us don't do what lefty AAPtards are doing I don't see anything happening. Modi is definitely better than other avail choices today however that does not mean better choices cannot emerge.
     
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    BJP is going to loose all the state elections for sure. In 2019 too they will lose. Modi's team has a bunch of kangress supporting cowards. Their silence in Islamic issues like non entry of women in dargahs, UCC, veil & on that stoic silence on the loot of temples, that bitch trupti Desai is saddening. BJP is nothing but a kangress part 2 with no guts. Modi is like ABV, coward.
     
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    Give them five years atleast and be patient. There is no need to vote out BJP in any election.

    You were happy with 55 years of congress rule, be patient with something better than that. Otherwise you will go back to point zero.
     
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  16. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

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    Uneducated muslims are genius when compared to super-duper educated Hindus. Why? They know how to vote tactically and get their agenda enforced.

    The article simply said to boot out BJP in municipality and panchayat elections. There was nothing against Modi. But these guys can't even see that.

    Till Hindus don't think best for their interest no party will pander to them. They will be backstabbed both by Congress and BJP. Hindu cause !=BJP, but Hindu cause > BJP.

    Worse: These guys don't understand the article is actually helping BJP. In 2019, if BJP is not backed by hardcore Hindus, there will be no wave election and BJP will lose. Without supporters who campaign not for money but the cause, are difficult to find. You don't pursue Hindu agenda and these guys will not go out. They don't even have to vote against BJP, the damage will be done by them not being enthusiastic about Modi and not convincing their friends and neighbours. Modi will go down in the history as ABV i.e. 5 years wonder. "haath to aayi, par muuh na lagi"
     
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    Whom are you trying to convince? Don't show them the truth, as they cannot bear the hard truth.

    Just take for example this @Ancient Indian guy. He just tried to imply that the people who voted BJP despite knowing that in their own constituency BJP won't win, do not matter. How wonderful this moron's comprehension is! And this guy claims to be RSS man. Now, if these the people representing RSS and BJP, is there any wonder why BJP is thrown out time and again?

    BJP never learns from their own mistakes it seems. RTE and Temple fund would have been natural issue which could have been taken up without much ado and nobody would have dared to be too vocal in the opposition. Still they cannot do it. Ms.Irani - the biggest disappointment in the cabinet - brags about her being impartial to the core when her babus are trying their hardest to prevent the Vedic Education Board so much so that PM himself had to get involved!

    To be honest, I do see that Modi and his cabinet is doing some quite excellent work in various front. But, his cowardice when it comes to challenge the status quo of anti-Hindu establishment, is galling!
     
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    A little solace ......

    http://indianexpress.com/article/in...proposal-holds-meet-on-vedic-education-board/

    PMO acts on Ramdev proposal, holds meet on Vedic Education Board
    While the Vedic Education Research Institute also wants to run and control the board, it’s not clear if the government is open to this, and the matter will need further discussion.
    - See more at: http://indianexpress.com/article/in...n-vedic-education-board/#sthash.kVoSn41J.dpuf

    The Prime Minister’s Office (PMO) held a meeting this week to discuss setting up of the country’s first Vedic Education Board, as proposed by yoga guru Baba Ramdev.

    Principal Secretary to the Prime Minister Nripendra Misra met the secretaries of school and higher education in the Union HRD Ministry, S C Khuntia and V S Oberoi respectively, on Tuesday to explore the idea of setting up a national board that would allow affiliated schools to offer a blend of the traditional gurukul system and modern curriculum.
    • The meeting, sources said, followed a proposal by the Haridwar-based Vedic Education Research Institute run by Ramdev’s Patanjali Yogapeeth. As per this proposal, the VEB will help Indianise education by offering a mix of “archaistic education of Maharshi Dayanand”, “human education of Aurobindo”, “vedanta education of Swami Vivekananda” and modern curriculum. Its schools will also focus on teaching the Vedas, Upanishads and Gita along with Sanskrit, Hindi, regional languages and English.

    The VEB would have a structure similar to the Central Board of Secondary Education (CBSE), including a chairman and vice-chairman. Schools up to Class XII would be affiliated to it, as per the proposal, and the VEB would hold examinations and prescribe a curriculum for them.

    While the Vedic Education Research Institute also wants to run and control the board, it’s not clear if the government is open to this, and the matter will need further discussion.

    The VEB would be essentially on the pattern of Acharyakulam, a school run by Ramdev in Haridwar that was inaugurated by Narendra Modi in April 2013, before he became prime minister. It has over 400 boys and girls in Classes V to VII studying Sanskrit, the Vedas and Shastras, apart from the National Council of Educational Research and Training curriculum prescribed by most boards in the country.

    If established, the vedic board, sources said, would benefit educational institutions such as Acharyakulam, Vidya Bharati schools (run by the RSS) and gurukuls run by the Arya Samaj, as it will allow them to sustain their model of education up to Class XII, which the CBSE currently does not permit.

    Since the Modi government took over in 2014, Ramdev has repeatedly called for a vedic education board. “After yoga kranti (revolution), there is a need for shiksha kranti (revolution in education).

    There is a need for Bharatiyakaran and swadeshikaran (indigenisation) of education. Through a conspiracy, (Thomas Babington) Macaulay destroyed 7,32,000 gurukuls. Now our resolution is to set up, if not 7 lakh, then certainly 700 gurukulam and acharyakulam all over the nation,” he had said in Jaipur last year.

    A government panel on Sanskrit, headed by former chief election commissioner N Gopalaswami, too had mooted the idea of a national school board for Sanskrit and vedic studies last month, but the meeting chaired by Misra was specifically on Ramdev’s proposal.

    HRD Ministry spokesperson Ghanshyam Goel did not respond to questions emailed by The Sunday Express. Ramdev’s aide Acharya Balkrishna was not available for comment despite repeated attempts.

    157 60- See more at: http://indianexpress.com/article/in...n-vedic-education-board/#sthash.kVoSn41J.dpuf
     
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    The old babus don't move an inch unless they are shown danda. Why do you think BJP is caught on backfoot again and again? PF,EPF issue, tax forms etc.

    Sorry, BJP supporters cant be Aaptards to support every shit from their leader. No surprise Delhi is becoming worse day after day. First Odd-even and now they want to kill uber-ola. Middle class shot itself in foot by electing this moron.
     
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    this is the most valid reason for slow development. They are still living in tha ge of steam engine and indira's socialist India.
     
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    Sakal Gharelu Ustad Detests Jholawalas Moderator

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    Btw guys:

    Those brown skin Hindus in Maharashtra already giving a lesson to BJP!! How dare they!!
     

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