future of INS Viraat after it's retirement may be at 2018

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  1. Yusuf

    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    Nope. No battle history. Best it would have been used to choke Pak during Kargil war. The carrier was acquired in 1986.
     
  2. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    Then i don't see much future as a museum. Scrap it is...
     
  3. plugwater

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    I ve read it again. I am talking about the number of ships too. we are going to operate only 2 CBG not three so we have enough ships to escort them as well as to do defensive and offensive missions during war.

    If we can operate ships if necessary even they are not feasible economically. We are talking about national security here.

    Two CBG mate not three.
    Happy Independence day to you too.
     
  4. Payeng

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    Their is a general perception in the air that their should be 3 operational CV force in the IN, my point is, why 3 without increase in the numbers of warships in the fleet, I have also seen people advocating 4 or up to 6 CV on internet my message is not for a particular individual but for anyone who is taking my comments for a concern.

    Secondly regarding life extension of warships, an undeserved uneconomical life extension might inversely effect the the security of the nation, Money is not unlimited, budget is not at users disposal, plus we are currently not fighting a war. Why need to supplement national security by putting strain into the budget of the nation which could be done otherwise through proper planning and implementation, National security depends upon multiple factors including a sound economy which is the lifeline for the survival of a nation, but as you have misunderstood the reason for the discussion, it will do no good to continue with the argument, I have been advocating 2 Carrier Vessel, taking the consent of current fleet numbers, you are pointing out the IN is going to operate 2 CV not 3, whats your point?

    here is one of my post from where this discussion originated...............
     
  5. plugwater

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    AK Antony said IN will operate two CBG some months back by 2015. IN wont take any decision based on what some people discussing in message boards.

    Extending the life of ships is a stop gap measure until we build new ones. Every navy around the world do this if there is any delay in construction of new ships. I dont see they go bankrupt cos of operating old vessels. Operating some old ships does not make much impact on economy.

    You may have started with 2 CBG but later u asked about 3 CBG and the lack of escort vessels for that i replied we are not going to form 3 but only 2.
     
  6. Payeng

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    hahaha .... I never advocated for a third CV, I was just replying back why not the third one, that's why I asked you to go through the previous posts. ;)
     
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    Please check post 33. The talk about 3 CBG started after that :)
     
  8. Payeng

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    The problem is that you have not gone through the whole of my discussion with manc otherwise you would have known what I was talking about, your mentioned reply of mine was a reply back to manc assuming the view that he was advocating that enough ships are available to form a fleet with more than two aircraft carriers, although if he might had not said the term 3 CV my reply was based on that theory because he quoted my post #23 where I have expressed my view wrt number of aircraft carrier,post #33 indicates that I think that maybe we have enough warships for 2 CV navy, but definitely not enough for the third one as per my original quote in post #23...lol
     
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    If INS Viraat has life in it, although her keel was laid in 1944 IN can use it as a helicopter carrier. just chage her steam machinery to diesels, remove ski jump so she can be used as a helicopter carrier.
     
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    During Kargil war our AC was under repair/r, so IN did next best thing, since it IN had Harrier that time, therefore same was operated from modified tanker. Pakistani give up.
     
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    A shipyard that grew with a floating behemoth
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    INS Viraat at the Cochin Shipyard during its just-concluded decommissioning refit.
    INS Viraat, refitted at Cochin Shipyard for decommissioning, is set to leave for Mumbai.
     
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    Indian Navy bids farewell to world’s oldest aircraft carrier INS Viraat
    Viraat is expected to be decommissioned by end of this year, after 55 years of service, including 27 years with the Royal Navy (British Navy).
    BY: PTI | KOCHI |Published On:October 23, 2016 3:34 PM
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    New campaign hopes to bring Barrow-built HMS Hermes back to Britain
    Thursday, October 26, 2017 By: New Mail Source Link: CLICK HERE




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    A CAMPAIGN to bring a Barrow-built aircraft carrier back to Britain and transform it into a community hub has begun.

    HMS Hermes was laid down in 1944 and was in service with the Royal Navy between 1959 to 1984, serving as the flagship during the Falklands War in 1982. She was sold to the Indian Navy in 1987 and renamed INS Viraat.

    Retired in March, after a 58-year career, speculation grew about the future of the vessel and calls were made to transform the carrier with some suggesting it should become a floating naval museum, or a hotel.

    Shock life-limiting diagnosis sparks coast-to-coast challenge for BAE worker and Lakeside dad

    But now, Falklands War veteran and former crew member, Andy Trish has set up a Crowdfunder page in the hope he can have the vessel returned to the UK and used as a commonwealth museum.

    The businessman believes the ship can be used as a 'showpiece' for the UK and has so far raised £9,303 of the £100,000 target from 272 supporters.

    Support for the project has flooded in so far and one project backer commented: "A great project, a great piece of history she can be and should be saved!

    "She can tell future generations so much about our past, to help the forge a better future! Good Luck!"

    Mr Trish is hoping he can "continue the life of HMS Hermes /INS Viraat in a way that inspires future generations and bestows pride in those who served in her."
    http://www.defencenews.in/article/N...arrow-built-HMS-Hermes-back-to-Britain-444127
     

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