India US Relations

[communismforindia]

You know, if the US were to really apply tactics like Saddam Hussein did on his populace, or the way the KGB used to control the Russian masses, there would be no Taliban. And let us not forget that the Pakis have been propping up the Taliban for years. The Taliban just cross the border after an attack, where US/NATO forces cannot get them. Rather, they are not authorized to get them there.

I agree that we should maintain an independent and cautious foreign policy and not get into any strategic military pacts with the US as of now. But then, blaming the US for the continued existence of the Taliban in Afghanistan is a little short sighted.

Taliban was basically created and fuelled by US in afganisthan during 80s to create trouble for USSR .. although it would be idiotic to say that taliban caused the fall of USSR but it certainly was responsible for creating social problems in USSR.. it is a well known facts... terrorism existed before 9/11... where was US then?? 9/11 was a major slap to US and then it realized that taliban is going out of control .... thus it caused afganisthan intervention and the war on terror joke...

 

[The Messiah]

Taliban was basically created and fuelled by US in afganisthan during 80s to create trouble for USSR .. although it would be idiotic to say that taliban caused the fall of USSR but it certainly was responsible for creating social problems in USSR.. it is a well known facts... terrorism existed before 9/11... where was US then?? 9/11 was a major slap to US and then it realized that taliban is going out of control .... thus it caused afganisthan intervention and the war on terror joke...

learn history first!! they were freedom fighters then suddenly turned into terrorists overnight.

 

[SpArK]

Snubbed by Pakistan, US envoy goes to India


WASHINGTON — A US envoy on a mission to discuss post-war Afghanistan will head on a previously unscheduled trip to New Delhi after India's rival Pakistan refused his visit, officials said Wednesday.


US officials said Pakistan informed them that it did not want to receive special envoy Marc Grossman until Islamabad completes an ongoing review of relations with Washington, which have sunk to rock-bottom in recent months.


The State Department said Grossman would head Friday to India, whose support for Afghanistan and President Hamid Karzai is deeply resented by many Pakistanis who accuse New Delhi of trying to use the issue against Islamabad.


State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said that the United States was not trying to send any message to Pakistan through Grossman's trip to India and reiterated that he would have liked to visit.


"We made clear that we would welcome a stop by Ambassador Grossman in Islamabad on this trip," she told reporters.
"The Pakistanis are looking hard internally at our relationship. They asked us to give them time to do that, so he will not be going there on this trip," she said.


Nuland said that the United States welcomed efforts by India, which has given more than $2 billion in aid to Afghanistan and plans to take a larger role training Afghan troops and security forces.


"We believe that India has a role to play in supporting a democratic, prosperous future for Afghanistan," she said.
Pakistan has launched a review of its relations with Washington amid a drastic deterioration of ties, particularly after US forces killed Osama bin Laden during a unilateral raid in the garrison town of Abbottabad last year.


Islamabad has demanded an apology and curbed cooperation after a NATO air strike near the Afghan border on November 26 killed 24 Pakistani troops. President Barack Obama has voiced regret but stopped short of a full apology.


US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said last week that Grossman would seek to advance reconciliation in Afghanistan and talk to President Karzai about a resumption of preliminary talks with the Taliban.

The United States wants to withdraw most forces from Afghanistan in 2014, ending more than a decade of war. But many US officials have deep concerns about the role of Pakistan, believing its intelligence services maintain ties with Islamic extremists inside Afghanistan.
After New Delhi, Grossman heads to Afghanistan on Saturday for talks with Karzai. He is also visiting Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the United Arab Emirates on his nearly two-week trip.
Copyright © 2012 AFP.

 

[Tshering22]

^^ We don't like left over trash. Get lost.

 

[Zebra]

Panetta To Discuss New U.S. Asia Policy, Indian Ties During Trip

May. 30, 2012 - 10:15AM |
By MARCUS WEISGERBER

U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta plans to give two major policy speeches in Asia in the coming days that will address a greater Pentagon emphasis on the Pacific and the broadening of a partnership with India, according to senior defense officials.

"We just see India as a partner with whom we have a lot of common interests and a lot of things we can achieve together — a lot of areas we can work well together," a senior defense official said May 29.

Panetta plans to discuss the new U.S. strategic military guidance, announced in January, that puts a greater emphasis on the Pacific region and makes mention of India as a strategic partner.

"We're really shifting to a point at which our defense interactions with India are becoming routine," the official said. "We expect cooperation, and we're moving to an era in which we think defense cooperation with India is just going to be on a steady roll. [Panetta is] going to be really focusing on how we continue to move forward that partnership."

The U.S. wants to expand the relationship beyond weapon purchases to a point where interaction is routine, the official noted.

"We're trying to have a relationship with India that is broad, strategic and continual, that is not focused on a given transaction for a given trip," the official said.

The Pentagon is working with India on a "host of things" that will "enable technology cooperation," and "work better with the Indians in terms of overall aligning our systems."

The visit to India is part of Panetta's nine-day trip, his second to the region and first visit since the Pentagon released the new military strategy. Panetta is also scheduled to give a major policy speech at the Shangri-La Dialogue, a meeting of global defense leaders in Singapore.

The speech at the Shangri-La summit will "give a comprehensive account to partners and everyone in the region about what the rebalance to the Asia Pacific will mean in practice," the official said.

Panetta is also expected to meet with a number of his counterparts from the region, including defense officials from Singapore and Thailand. There is also the possibility for trilateral meetings as DoD officials finalize the secretary's schedule.

The Pentagon's delegation to the meetings also will include Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Adm. Samuel Locklear, commander of U.S. Pacific Command.

Panetta also has a meeting scheduled with Locklear at Pacific Command headquarters in Hawaii on the way to Shangri-La.

Panetta will spend two days in Vietnam where he will discuss several areas of cooperation with defense officials there. The senior defense official said the U.S. has a "very robust relationship" and "very healthy" military-to-military relationship with Vietnam.


Panetta To Discuss New U.S. Asia Policy, Indian Ties During Trip | Defense News | defensenews.com

 

[W.G.Ewald]

"We're really shifting to a point at which our defense interactions with India are becoming routine," the official said. "We expect cooperation, and we're moving to an era in which we think defense cooperation with India is just going to be on a steady roll. [Panetta is] going to be really focusing on how we continue to move forward that partnership."

Very unremarkable words; not inspiring at all. Really, really.

 

[Ray]

So it is on a steady roll and not a typhoon?

 

[LETHALFORCE]

During this trip Panetta focus has been on China containment he should have offered BMD related products
ike THAAD, SM-6. Many naval systems are becoming aligned with US systems P8-I,Harpoons, etc...

 

[sukhish]

it's a good oppurtunity and India should extract maximum advantage from it.

 

[devil510]

it's a good oppurtunity and India should extract maximum advantage from it.

Extract money and blue prints of weapons from U.S. dont extract any weapons becuase their weapons are up for checking resist U.S.A.

 

[devil510]

Indo-US Strategic Relationship

Do you think Indo-U.S. defense relationship is anyway beneficial to India because all U.S. equipment is subject to checking ain't we making a mistake on one hand we are getting them out of debt by giving them defense contracts on other hand we are being disrespected by U.S. by all the checking and treating us as they are doing us a favor by selling the defense equipment let me get it straight In my opinion U.S. is not doing India any favor by selling any defense equipment

 

[The Messiah]

Re: Indo-U.S. Relationship

You are right :thumb:

 

[devil510]

learn history first!! they were freedom fighters then suddenly turned into terrorists overnight.

they were turned terrorist by American Media, and what CFI said it was right

 

[devil510]

Re: Indo-U.S. Relationship

You are right :thumb:

you should write more that just you are right

 

[aeroblogger]

Re: Indo-US Strategic Relationship

In my opinion U.S. is not doing India any favor by selling any defense equipment

Of course they are. If we were at mercy of solely the Russians, then the Vikramadiya delay and cost overruns would seem like a success.

 

[Cliff@sea]

Re: Indo-US Strategic Relationship

you should write more that just you are right

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[W.G.Ewald]

Re: Indo-U.S. Relationship

you should write more that just you are right

Messiah is a man of Few Words.

 

[devil510]

Re: Indo-US Strategic Relationship

Of course they are. If we were at mercy of solely the Russians, then the Vikramadiya delay and cost overruns would seem like a success.

we can always go to europeans Russia and U.S. are not the only one making defence equipment

 

[aeroblogger]

Re: Indo-US Strategic Relationship

we can always go to europeans Russia and U.S. are not the only one making defence equipment

You completely missed my point.

My point is that having more options open to us is beneficial. Therefore, the US offering their technology as an option is definitely helpful to us.

 

[average american]

U.S. arms exports tripled and reached a record $66.3 billion last year or more than three-quarters of the global arms market, the New York Times is reporting Sunday night.

The US military-industial complex sold 78 per cent of the world's arms in 2011. Russia was a distant second, with just $4.8 billion in weapon sales.
I expect about half of that to India.