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India must not be a vassal state of any nation ...not even the United States ! India should cooperate and ahve very good trade and security relations with USA as lots of basic values of these two countries are similar such as democracy, freedom of speech and free enterprise.
But at the same time, India should never abandon its time tested and reliable friends such as Russia.
Under current govt. India does have a backbone to stand tall and not be subservient to any other nation.
Remember, Indian civilization,s core value is " VASUDEV KUTUMBAKAM" means the entire Earth is one family.
India does not need to give up its core values and beliefs. India is a strong nation .
Russia was never India's friend. They used India during cold war. Even during the 1971 war, it was Russia that arm twisted Indira Gandhi to give up on PoK and release 90K pak prisoners. At that time India was friendless and economically/militarily powerless, so Indira had to concede.
 

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Given by US to fight Taliban, Pak uses missile to target India at LoC
Posted at: Feb 11, 2018, 1:38 AM
Last updated: Feb 11, 2018, 2:20 AM (IST)


In what could further change the course of the India-US relations, India has flagged its concerns to the US, with evidence, that Pakistan was using US weapons, given to fight Taliban, against the Indian Army.

The recent attacks by Pakistan on Indian Army bunkers along the Line of Control and also on civilian population were carried out using the US-made TOW-2A anti-tank guided missiles given to Pakistan for use against Taliban.

In 2007, the US Congress approved the sale of 2,000 pieces of ‘TOW-2A’ anti-tank missiles for Pakistan purportedly for ‘self-defence’ and to support US operations against terrorists in Afghanistan.

Proof submitted

  • The ‘misuse’ of missiles by the Pakistan Army was flagged at appropriate levels in the US government
  • Remnants of TOW-2A missile recovered after a fire assault were collected and shifted to New Delhi as proof and were shown to US representatives

http://www.tribuneindia.com/mobi/ne...es-missile-to-target-india-at-loc/542095.html
 
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India must not be a vassal state of any nation ...not even the United States ! India should cooperate and ahve very good trade and security relations with USA as lots of basic values of these two countries are similar such as democracy, freedom of speech and free enterprise.
But at the same time, India should never abandon its time tested and reliable friends such as Russia.
Under current govt. India does have a backbone to stand tall and not be subservient to any other nation.
Remember, Indian civilization,s core value is " VASUDEV KUTUMBAKAM" means the entire Earth is one family.
India does not need to give up its core values and beliefs. India is a strong nation .
I don't think Russians view India as anything more than a buyer /seller relations. Anything else is Indian delusions.
 
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Given by US to fight Taliban, Pak uses missile to target India at LoC
Posted at: Feb 11, 2018, 1:38 AM
Last updated: Feb 11, 2018, 2:20 AM (IST)


In what could further change the course of the India-US relations, India has flagged its concerns to the US, with evidence, that Pakistan was using US weapons, given to fight Taliban, against the Indian Army.

The recent attacks by Pakistan on Indian Army bunkers along the Line of Control and also on civilian population were carried out using the US-made TOW-2A anti-tank guided missiles given to Pakistan for use against Taliban.

In 2007, the US Congress approved the sale of 2,000 pieces of ‘TOW-2A’ anti-tank missiles for Pakistan purportedly for ‘self-defence’ and to support US operations against terrorists in Afghanistan.

Proof submitted

  • The ‘misuse’ of missiles by the Pakistan Army was flagged at appropriate levels in the US government
  • Remnants of TOW-2A missile recovered after a fire assault were collected and shifted to New Delhi as proof and were shown to US representatives

http://www.tribuneindia.com/mobi/ne...es-missile-to-target-india-at-loc/542095.html
India knew pak had these missiles for over a decade . Only preparation india made for them is to complain to US.
 

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Why is a pechora being shown? India used konkurs and milans against pakis many times and will continue to do so.​
 

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Trump Signals Tit-For-Tat Duties To Punish PM Modi's Move

As PM Modi prepares for polls, he has been ensnared by protectionism, threatening FDIs in India

Less than a month after he declared to the World Economic Forum that India was open for business, Prime Minister Narendra Modi has raised import duties to their highest in three decades, setting the stage for a protracted trade war.

As he prepares to seek re-election next year, PM Modi has been ensnared by a global wave of protectionism that could threaten the foreign direct investments India needs to achieve double-digit growth. He has made it more expensive to import parts for automobiles, cameras, televisions, electricity meters and smartphones, risking trade disputes from allies like the U.S. and Germany to rivals like China.

India has taken a dramatic protectionist turn," Richard Rossow, an Indian policy expert at the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies, wrote in a note. "The scale of India's protectionist leap is surprising and likely to elicit a strong response from the United States and other major trading partners."

"President Donald Trump signaled tit-for-tat duties against India's barriers on motorcycles, while the German Ambassador to India, Martin Ney, questioned the decision to raise custom duty on the import of auto components. The U.S. commerce department on Tuesday said it was examining imports of welded pipes from India and five other countries.

All this could add up to bad news for India at the World Trade Organisation.


"This can escalate at the WTO," said Rahul Shukla, Delhi-based executive director at Pricewaterhouse Coopers Pvt. "If they really want to help local industry there's so much more that could be done, and it's true that industry needs help. But these are the highest barriers we have seen in a long while."

India's move comes as it faces the widest trade deficit in three years and a resilient rupee. Data from the government is due on Thursday and though it is expected to show a pull back for January, India's yawning deficit with Asian powerhouse China is a matter of concern.

Indian imports from China have soared in the past few years, out pacing exports and leaving the local industry, especially the medium and small sectors, gasping for survival. And exports from the $2.3 trillion economy have slowed at a time when the global economy is ticking higher.

Finance minister Arun Jaitley announced in his Feb. 1 budget speech that the barriers would push the government's flagship 'Make in India' program to encourage local manufacturing. Yet some believe the electoral costs incurred by PM Modi after a chaotic roll out of the national goods and services tax -- including significant disruptions to businesses -- may have driven the government to resort to protectionism.

The barriers will remain in place for another two-to-three years to help small and medium companies, said Vanaja Sarna, chairwoman of India's Central Board of Excise and Customs in an interview.

But the move may end up hurting local businesses, said Bipul Chatterjee, executive director at New Delhi-based think tank CUTS International.

"A hike of 15 to 20 percent is not much for Chinese and South Korean companies -- they can easily absorb it. This will end up hurting Indian competitiveness more than the government imagines," he said.
 

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Trump Signals Tit-For-Tat Duties To Punish PM Modi's Move

As PM Modi prepares for polls, he has been ensnared by protectionism, threatening FDIs in India

Less than a month after he declared to the World Economic Forum that India was open for business, Prime Minister Narendra Modi has raised import duties to their highest in three decades, setting the stage for a protracted trade war.

As he prepares to seek re-election next year, PM Modi has been ensnared by a global wave of protectionism that could threaten the foreign direct investments India needs to achieve double-digit growth. He has made it more expensive to import parts for automobiles, cameras, televisions, electricity meters and smartphones, risking trade disputes from allies like the U.S. and Germany to rivals like China.

India has taken a dramatic protectionist turn," Richard Rossow, an Indian policy expert at the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies, wrote in a note. "The scale of India's protectionist leap is surprising and likely to elicit a strong response from the United States and other major trading partners."

"President Donald Trump signaled tit-for-tat duties against India's barriers on motorcycles, while the German Ambassador to India, Martin Ney, questioned the decision to raise custom duty on the import of auto components. The U.S. commerce department on Tuesday said it was examining imports of welded pipes from India and five other countries.

All this could add up to bad news for India at the World Trade Organisation.


"This can escalate at the WTO," said Rahul Shukla, Delhi-based executive director at Pricewaterhouse Coopers Pvt. "If they really want to help local industry there's so much more that could be done, and it's true that industry needs help. But these are the highest barriers we have seen in a long while."

India's move comes as it faces the widest trade deficit in three years and a resilient rupee. Data from the government is due on Thursday and though it is expected to show a pull back for January, India's yawning deficit with Asian powerhouse China is a matter of concern.

Indian imports from China have soared in the past few years, out pacing exports and leaving the local industry, especially the medium and small sectors, gasping for survival. And exports from the $2.3 trillion economy have slowed at a time when the global economy is ticking higher.

Finance minister Arun Jaitley announced in his Feb. 1 budget speech that the barriers would push the government's flagship 'Make in India' program to encourage local manufacturing. Yet some believe the electoral costs incurred by PM Modi after a chaotic roll out of the national goods and services tax -- including significant disruptions to businesses -- may have driven the government to resort to protectionism.

The barriers will remain in place for another two-to-three years to help small and medium companies, said Vanaja Sarna, chairwoman of India's Central Board of Excise and Customs in an interview.

But the move may end up hurting local businesses, said Bipul Chatterjee, executive director at New Delhi-based think tank CUTS International.

"A hike of 15 to 20 percent is not much for Chinese and South Korean companies -- they can easily absorb it. This will end up hurting Indian competitiveness more than the government imagines," he said.
Imagine if this was congi govt or Obama administration, it would have been blown out of proportion.

This news has been out for 2-3 days, no news channel is giving this news any importance. This is a big change in itself.
 

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Soon, India defence attaché at US navy Bahrain command
The Pentagon has also agreed to have an Indian military representative at the Defence Innovation Unit Experimental, a US government unit that funds private companies working on cutting-edge defence technologies.

India will have a military attaché in the US Naval Forces Central Command (NAVCENT) in Bahrain, defence ministry officials said on condition of anonymity, highlighting what they term a “path-breaking” development that signals deeper defence cooperation between the two countries.

The officials added that the Pentagon has also agreed to have an Indian military representative at the Defence Innovation Unit Experimental (DIUx), a US government unit that funds private companies working on cutting-edge defence technologies.

According to the officials, the decisions were finalised during defence secretary Sanjay Mitra’s visit last week to the Pentagon, during which India and the US also decided to jointly participate in tri-service amphibious exercises off the Indian coast (including in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands) as well as increasing the scope of trilateral naval exercises with the Japanese Navy in the Indo-Pacific. The decision to include the Australian Navy to make it a quadrilateral exercise is still a work in progress.

The bilateral decision to post an Indian defence attaché at the Bahrain Command has huge ramifications as NAVCENT’s area of responsibility includes the Red Sea, Gulf of Oman, Persian Gulf, and Arabian Sea. Comprising the Fifth Fleet and other forces, this Command is in charge of naval operations in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and the oil-rich Gulf countries. It is also the lead player in anti-piracy and counter-terrorist operations conducted by the Combined Task Force 150 and 158.




Defence ministry officials said the Indian attaché in Bahrain will ensure that the US and Indian navies are on the same page. New Delhi’s perception of the Indo-Pacific is the area from the Gulf of Aden to the west coast of America. The Indian attaché will ensure better coordination and logistic support for warships and aircraft carriers of the two countries.

The officials said that the idea of posting a representative in the DIUx is to gain first-hand experience on how the Pentagon and the private sector work together for national security. This unit identifies and invests in companies, including start-ups that fulfil US Department of Defense hardware or software requirements. The Indian representative will be able to identify solutions for the Indian military and explore which ones could work under the “Make in India” rubric.

As a sign of increasing naval cooperation, the two countries are all for raising the complexity of the exercises, fostering joint training and validating standard operating procedures for amphibious operations. On December 21, the Indian Navy conducted a tri-services exercise off the coast of Kakinada in the Eastern Naval Command with landing ships from Andaman Nicobar Command participating in the manoeuvres. With South Block taking administrative steps towards integrated theatre commands, the Andamans Command will soon become the hub of Indian Navy’s might in the Indian Ocean in order to ensure that sea lanes of communications are not obstructed and freedom of navigation is unhampered by any third aggressive power.

Interestingly, in US Navy’s definition, India comes under Hawaii-based Pacific Command. Delhi, for the past two decades, has pushed for a liaison with NAVCENT because the latter is responsible for the Arabian Sea.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...ain-command/story-iTGPB5sLbOlod11MlprWjI.html
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This is a major development. IF confirmed.
 

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Russia was never India's friend. They used India during cold war. Even during the 1971 war, it was Russia that arm twisted Indira Gandhi to give up on PoK and release 90K pak prisoners. At that time India was friendless and economically/militarily powerless, so Indira had to concede.
You think you know history....i think you are victim of fake propaganda. In 1971 War, India had to give up 90K Pak prisoners because United States sent Nuclear weapons fitted Seventh Fleet in Bay of Bengal and made threat to Indira Gandhi. In response, Soviet Union sent frigates and Nuclear Submarines to protect India.
Due to Nuclear threat ,Indira Gandhi had to concede.

This Nuclear blackmail by West made Indira Gandhi determined to get Nukes and she finally, in 1975..carried out Nuclear testing in desert of Rajasthan....Remember.."Bhagwan Budha is smiling."

Do some research...who gave Pakistan Sabre Jets, Patton Tanks, F-16s and other weapons to be used against India ?

When no other nation was ready to give India even a screw driver, Soviet Union gave MIGs, Tanks, Space technology (Aryabhatt, Rohini ) and technology for Bhilai and Bokaro Giant Steel Plants. When China was beating India's a*ss...all these western nations abandoned India in spite of their prior reassurances to foolish Nehru.

Just denying or distorting history is not enough to erase the facts of history.

Agree India has got a new Rich guy who want it to be enemy of its old, time tested friend...so the propaganda machine is in full swing to mislead and brainwash younger generation of Indians.. Seems you might be a young Indian who gets history lessons from Google.

(Folks...I just used my right to freedom of speech..promised to me. (Satya Mev Jayate !) )
 

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You think you know history....i think you are victim of fake propaganda. In 1971 War, India had to give up 90K Pak prisoners because United States sent Nuclear weapons fitted Seventh Fleet in Bay of Bengal and made threat to Indira Gandhi. In response, Soviet Union sent frigates and Nuclear Submarines to protect India.
Due to Nuclear threat ,Indira Gandhi had to concede.
Nope read your history. PoWs were returned in 1972 a full year after 1971. No nuke threat then.

What happened was that during a UN vote of motion to admit Bangladesh as a new member, China excercised its veto on the urging of Shitistan. An agreement was reached that India agreed to release the PoWs and China agreed to lift their veto.

Of course there were backdoor pressures and maneuverings as well, but this was the most visible and immediate reason. Moreover, IG's chief advisor P.N. Haskar, a committed leftsist and a KGB mole, impressed upon her the need to be "magnanimous" to Pakistan for "humanitarian" purposes. He claimed that this would lead to change in the Shitistani mindset. Change it did, Napaki afsaraan and fauji who were humiliated in 1971 including Mushrat, and those who were let go as a part of Haskar's grand "elder brotherly gesture" embarked on a strategy to foment terrorism in India.

The US fleet in Bay of Bengal was the prevent India from liberating Bangladesh and they failed miserably on that account.
 

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You think you know history....i think you are victim of fake propaganda. In 1971 War, India had to give up 90K Pak prisoners because United States sent Nuclear weapons fitted Seventh Fleet in Bay of Bengal and made threat to Indira Gandhi. In response, Soviet Union sent frigates and Nuclear Submarines to protect India.
Due to Nuclear threat ,Indira Gandhi had to concede.

This Nuclear blackmail by West made Indira Gandhi determined to get Nukes and she finally, in 1975..carried out Nuclear testing in desert of Rajasthan....Remember.."Bhagwan Budha is smiling."

Do some research...who gave Pakistan Sabre Jets, Patton Tanks, F-16s and other weapons to be used against India ?

When no other nation was ready to give India even a screw driver, Soviet Union gave MIGs, Tanks, Space technology (Aryabhatt, Rohini ) and technology for Bhilai and Bokaro Giant Steel Plants. When China was beating India's a*ss...all these western nations abandoned India in spite of their prior reassurances to foolish Nehru.

Just denying or distorting history is not enough to erase the facts of history.

Agree India has got a new Rich guy who want it to be enemy of its old, time tested friend...so the propaganda machine is in full swing to mislead and brainwash younger generation of Indians.. Seems you might be a young Indian who gets history lessons from Google.

(Folks...I just used my right to freedom of speech..promised to me. (Satya Mev Jayate !) )
Never said USA was a good friend. Not at all, both US and UK are culprits. UK created Pak whilst US armed them to the teeth. So you're right on that account.

This doesn't mean that USSR was a good friend. Not at all. They arm twisted India into letting go of PoK. The US nuclear threat was to PREVENT India from going to war with pak and liberating Bangladesh. But Russian pressure came later. They forced IG to abandon plans to capture PoK, because they were afraid India might become strong in that area (and thereby exert more control over Afghanistan). This indirectly helped Pak so much that when Russia invaded Afghanistan they were royally screwed over by pak/usa together.
 

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BTW, did anyone paid attention to India's foreign minister's Sushma Swaraj's assertion in Tokyo 2 days ago that India is not going to cave to pressure from UK /USA to comply with dictats about North Korea or Russia ...India has an independent foreign policy and will act in best interest of its own country.

Seems like UK/USA are putting pressure on India....And boy..I tell you it not gonna work on these nationalist/patriotic leaders of India.

Sushma Swaraj has guts to tell the world that 1.3 billion Indians can not and will not be pressured by old, declining colonial powers who still live in delusion that they can dictate all nations of the World.

Watch her speech on WION on you tube ! India's civilizational values are reflected and strategic autonomy emphasized.
 

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BTW, did anyone paid attention to India's foreign minister's Sushma Swaraj's assertion in Tokyo 2 days ago that India is not going to cave to pressure from UK /USA to comply with dictats about North Korea or Russia ...India has an independent foreign policy and will act in best interest of its own country.

Seems like UK/USA are putting pressure on India....And boy..I tell you it not gonna work on these nationalist/patriotic leaders of India.

Sushma Swaraj has guts to tell the world that 1.3 billion Indians can not and will not be pressured by old, declining colonial powers who still live in delusion that they can dictate all nations of the World.

Watch her speech on WION on you tube ! India's civilizational values are reflected and strategic autonomy emphasized.
Irrespective of which govt is in power, they would have done the same thing.
 

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Irrespective of which govt is in power, they would have done the same thing.
We did back off on Chabahar during MMS's time. So it's a flexible, evolving depending on many factors.
 

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I like the way Modi thinks on trade. India should make it more difficult for all foreign companies (except for some very high tech, high capital investment stuff) to sell their products here, even if it affects short-term FDI and causes WTO disputes.

Bottom line: India with its slowly growing middle-class of 100 to 200 million people is still a significant market for many foreign companies. This will force multi-national companies to move some manufacturing & assembly into India, even if they dont want to because India is not an easy place to do business. But they will still move manufacturing & assembly to India if they cant get regular access to the market. This will create badly needed blue & white collar jobs in India and eventually make the country more competitive in manufacturing.
 

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India-US: ‘2-By-2’ Dialogue Put Off, India Says No To Defence Minister Talks
Wednesday, April 11, 2018 by Indiandefense News


The inaugural ‘2-by-2’ dialogue was scheduled to be held in Washington this month
The inaugural ‘2-by-2’ dialogue was scheduled to be held in Washington this month, but was postponed as the US Secretary of State-designate, Mike Pompeo, is still awaiting his confirmation by the US Senate
INDIA HAS declined an offer from the US for talks between Defence Minister Nirmala Sitharaman and US Secretary of Defence Jim Mattis in lieu of the ‘2-by-2’ dialogue between India’s foreign and defence ministers and US secretaries of state and defence.
The inaugural ‘2-by-2’ dialogue was scheduled to be held in Washington this month, but was postponed as the US Secretary of State-designate, Mike Pompeo, is still awaiting his confirmation by the US Senate. US President Donald Trump nominated Pompeo as his Secretary of State after he fired Rex Tillerson from the post last month. Pompeo’s confirmation hearing in the US Senate Foreign Affairs Committee is scheduled for Thursday.
Official sources told The Indian Express that the offer of a formal meeting between Sitharaman and Mattis was made by Washington after the preparatory talks between the Indian and US delegations last month. The Indian delegation, which comprised Foreign Secretary Vijay Gokhale and Defence Secretary Sanjay Mitra, was in the US immediately after Tillerson was fired.
New Delhi considered Washington’s proposal, sources said, but declined the offer as it didn’t want to diminish the importance of India’s first ‘2-by-2’ dialogue at the ministerial level. The ‘2-by-2’ ministerial dialogue was announced in August 2017 in a White House readout of a telephone call between President Trump and Prime Minister Narendra Modi. “The leaders resolved to enhance peace and stability across the Indo-Pacific region by establishing a new 2-by-2 ministerial dialogue that will elevate their strategic consultations,” the readout had said.
Meanwhile, during the preparatory talks in Washington last month, the US side pressed the Indian side to sign the two foundational agreements for defence cooperation: Communications Compatibility and Security Agreement (COMCASA), earlier known as the Communications and Information Security Memorandum of Agreement (CISMOA); and Basic Exchange and Cooperation Agreement (BECA). In 2016, India and the US had signed the third foundational agreement: Logistical Exchange Memorandum of Agreement (LEMOA), which has since been operationalised.
COMCASA, US officials assert, is needed if any classified military information is required to be exchanged between US and Indian armed forces, and would allow India to fully utilise the communication security equipment on military platforms it imports from the US. BECA provides for sharing and data gathering of geospatial information between the two militaries.
Despite signing LEMOA, New Delhi has not been convinced about signing COMCASA as a blanket agreement encompassing all communication across military platforms. Sources said India is willing to consider signing a COMCASA kind of agreement separately for every equipment that it imports from the US.
Pentagon is, however, scheduled to send a team of officials and lawyers to New Delhi later this month to explain the need to sign COMCASA and BECA. Sources said the chances of signing these two agreements before the 2019 elections are rather slim.
The two countries, sources said, have also agreed to institute a new amphibious exercise which will be announced shortly. Discussions on sale of armed UAVs and F-16 fighter jets by the US to India did not lead to any substantive progress during the preparatory talks, sources added.
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US Envoy: Will transfer critical defence technology to India

CHENNAI: The US on Wednesday announced that it would transfer critical defence technology to India and conduct a tri-services exercise with the country’s armed forces as part of a “2+2” meeting likely to take place in May.

US envoy to India Kenneth Juster, projecting bolstered defence ties between America and India, implied that the US would transfer to India technology that it was yet to share with any country.

Speaking at a US-India Business Council seminar on the first day of DefExpo-18 in Thiruvidanthai, Juster said ties between New Delhi and Washington are “sending a strong signal” to other countries.

“The US has designated India as a major defence partner and it is significant in many respects. The US Congress supports India on both sides of the aisle,” he said, outlining the objectives of the 2+2 meet, which will have two representatives from each side.

Juster said the US would, offer India defence technology with a focus on a jet fighter platform and transfer of technology. This, he said, would enable India to build an “entire ecosystem” for companies to produce jet fighters in this country.
 

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That's good. But it might take 25 years to build "entire ecosysytem" because 70% of India's defense ecosystem runs on Russian platforms.
Talking is cheap....wait and watch if it really happens as trust issue is still huge about powers who tormented India for 60 years by supporting and weaponizing Pakistan who created terrorism in Indian Kashmir.
For most of the World..its hard to trust Anglosphere powers. Let them prove they are sincere this time.

Its just an envoy throwing some tempting words..take it with a grain of salt.
 

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That's good. But it might take 25 years to build "entire ecosysytem" because 70% of India's defense ecosystem runs on Russian platforms.
Talking is cheap....wait and watch if it really happens as trust issue is still huge about powers who tormented India for 60 years by supporting and weaponizing Pakistan who created terrorism in Indian Kashmir.
For most of the World..its hard to trust Anglosphere powers. Let them prove they are sincere this time.

Its just an envoy throwing some tempting words..take it with a grain of salt.
Any country would be a fool to trust the UK/US. They have a long, long history of backstabbing and vicious betrayals. They are incapable of being sincere.

The best thing to do is appear interested in US platforms, appear interested in Russian platforms, put out RFPs and tenders over and over again, while silently building indigenous capability.
 

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