French weekly says screw Islamists

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  1. Galaxy

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    Muslims Attack on French satirical paper Charlie Hebdo

    Muslims Attack on French satirical paper Charlie Hebdo

    2 November 2011

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    The offices of the French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo have been destroyed by a petrol bomb, French police say.
    It comes a day after the publication named the Prophet Muhammad as its "editor-in-chief" for its next issue.

    The magazine said the move was intended to "celebrate" the victory of an Islamist party in Tunisia's election.
    Charlie Hedbo's editor is quoted as saying: "We no longer have a newspaper. All our equipment has been destroyed."

    A single Molotov cocktail was thrown at the offices of Charlie Hebdo during the night and a large amount of material in the office was destroyed, police said.

    There have been no reports of injuries.


    Charlie Hebdo's website has also been hacked with a message in English and Turkish attacking the magazine.

    The magazine was criticised by Muslims in 2007 after reprinting the Danish cartoons of the prophet Muhammad that caused outrage around the Islamic world.

    BBC News - Attack on French satirical paper Charlie Hebdo
     
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    It is called secularism ,
     
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    French seem to be inspired by the UPA in "secularism". :lol:
     
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    I was expecting such a reaction.

    I wonder why they are so impotent when China prevents Muslim fasting during Ramzan in Xinjiang?

    Maybe they are afraid that the Chinese will not take such nonsense and clap them in jail after a good thrashing!

    Though, at the same time, why provoke them when one knows their mentality?

    In France, in school, you cannot even flaunt the Cross.

    Indeed, that is secularism and not of the Indian type, if you will!
     
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    French weekly firebombed after it portrays Mohammad

    (Reuters) - A firebomb attack gutted the headquarters of French satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo on Wednesday after it put an image of the Prophet Mohammad on its cover.

    This week's edition shows a cartoon of Mohammad and a speech bubble with the words: "100 lashes if you don't die of laughter." It has the headline "Charia Hebdo," in a reference to Muslim sharia law, and says Mohammad guest-edited the issue.

    Charlie Hebdo's website on Wednesday appeared to have been hacked and briefly showed images of a mosque with the message "no God but Allah," after which the site was blanked.

    Many Muslims object to any representation of Allah or Mohammad, or to irreverent treatment of the Koran, and such incidents have inflamed protests in the past, sometimes violent.

    Danish cartoons of Mohammad in 2005 sparked unrest in the Muslim world in which at least 50 people were killed. An American pastor's burning of a copy of the Koran led to protests in Afghanistan in April in which several died.

    Police said nobody was injured in the fire that broke out at about 1 a.m. (midnight GMT) in the office building that houses Charlie Hebdo. Windows were broken on the ground floor and first floor and fire damage was visible inside. The Paris prosecutor's office told Reuters that two molotov cocktails had been thrown into the magazine's offices.

    "The building is still standing. The problem is there's nothing left inside," Stephane Charbonnier, editor of Charlie Hebdo, told Europe 1 radio.

    MUSLIM LEADERS CALL FOR CALM

    The main representative body of the Muslim faith in France, the French Muslim Council (CFCM), denounced the attack while also faulting the satirical publication.

    "The CFCM deplores the deeply mocking tone of the newspaper toward Islam and its prophet, but reaffirms with force its total opposition to any act or form of violence," it said in statement.

    About 5 million Muslims live in France, a country of about 65 million people.

    Tareq Oubrou, head of the Association of Imams of France, also condemned the attack. "This is an inadmissible act," he told French TV station i>tele.

    "Freedom is very important. It is nonetheless important to underline the sensitivity of the situation we face today.

    "I call on Muslims to treat this lucidly and not succumb to what they consider as provocations regarding their religion ... I personally call on Muslims to keep an open mind and not take this too seriously."

    In Dubai, the world's largest international Muslim body condemned Charlie Hebdo for publishing the image and a "highly provocative" editorial, but urged restraint among Muslims.

    "The publication of the Prophet Muhammad's cartoon, once again substantiated the OIC's concern of the alarming rise of Islamophobia in Europe," Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, secretary general of the 57-member Organization of Islamic Cooperation, said in a statement.

    Charlie Hebdo has got into deep water on similar issues in the past. Former editor Philippe Val was pursued in the French courts on charges of racial injury after its publication of three of the Danish cartoons in 2006. He was acquitted.

    FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION

    "Freedom of expression is an inalienable value of democracy and any incursion against press freedom must be condemned with the utmost force. No cause justified violent action," French Prime Minister Francois Fillon said in a statement.

    French Interior Minister Claude Gueant told reporters at the scene of the blaze that everything would be done to find the perpetrators of the attack.

    "You like or you don't like Charlie Hebdo but it's a newspaper. Press freedom is sacrosanct for the French," he said.

    The far-right National Front, which campaigns on an anti-immigrant agenda, said the firebombing was an attack on press freedom and on secularism.

    "Like religious practice, criticism of religions is free, as long as it does not call for public disturbance or violence," the Front said on its website.

    The editor of the left-wing daily Liberation opened his newspaper's office to Charlie Hebdo staff. Writers from Liberation and cartoonists from Charlie Hebdo were working on what they said would be a four-page supplement in Thursday's Liberation, with commentary and drawings about the controversy.

    Charlie Hebdo cartoonist Jean Cabut told Reuters that at the time of the Danish controversy, several Charlie Hebdo staff were put under police protection but that it was not yet sure how wide protection would be this time. He added he expected there would at least be protection for editor Charbonnier.

    Charbonnier said he plans to maintain the magazine's weekly schedule, with another issue due in the middle of next week.

    "In any case, giving ground to the Islamists is out of the question. We will continue," he said.

    French weekly firebombed after it portrays Mohammad | Reuters
     
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    Wow - hadn't even heard of this yet - several hours into the incident already!!

    Anyway, everything has happened on expected lines. Cartoon/depiction of Mohammed - retaliatory violence and protests - right wing parties protest against the protestors.... :lol:

    I suppose this is the scene that will be enacted in any country of the world!! :lol:
     
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    Yet the swastika is banned.
     
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    Actually the French are more tolerant with the Swastika than the Germans.
     
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    The modus operandi of the west is that we shame our mothers so there's nothing wrong in shaming the mothers of others.

    Not to be taken literally.
     
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    This is where non-violence helps your agenda in big way. Protests without harming anyone/anything strikes the point. Islamists should have greeted French Weekly's editors with roses & 'get-well-soon' cards like Munnabhai & circuit!
     
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    You expect extremists to indulge in non-violence ?
     
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    I thought extremists in sophisticated France are well-manned too! :D
     
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    Because CCP knows how to deal with people who create chaos. The way they handle things in Xingjiang is a lesson to all people suffering from Jihad. Such is their planning that ETIM shytes in their pants and operates from outside China without even daring a direct establishment there.

    I will tell you some facts here since you asked the question; Westerners even taunt Jesus despite being Christians by default. For them, it is not a big deal. There were some incidents in the past when they had depicted some mainstream Hindu deities and Gods and Buddha as well in ways that is not liked by us commonly. So what did the people do? They lodged a complaint, protested like civilized people and the company apologized and withdrew the depictions. No fire bombing, no suicide blasts, no death threats, no sharia, no fatwa, no nothing.

    But why do you think the right wing gets so pissed at the Muslim community in Europe? Here's the cause of their anger. Intolerable rigidity in everything (other than this issue). Whether it is schools, rules, public areas, social areas etc, they want everything in accordance with their sharia law. Since many of them are Arab/Pakistani origin, the fanaticism is at the peak in these communities. Everything of European offends them whether it is girls in bikini, open beer party, dressing sense or any damn thing; and this too they don't hesitate to show in European land.

    What do you expect when this happens too regularly? Right wing gets pissed, starts provoking the Muslims in the fashion in which they will behave aggressively and violently and use it as an excuse to restrict migration and possibly shunt out those who are to fundamentalist and creating problem in their countries.
     
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    Sharia doesn't allow that to happen :D.
     
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    French paper reprints Mohammad cartoon after fire-bomb

    (Reuters) - A French satirical weekly whose office was fire bombed after it printed a cartoon of the Prophet Mohammad has reproduced the image with other caricatures in a special supplement distributed with one of the country's leading newspapers.

    The weekly Charlie Hebdo defended "the freedom to poke fun" in the four-page supplement, which was wrapped around copies of the left-wing daily Liberation on Thursday, a day after an arson attack gutted Charlie Hebdo's Paris headquarters.

    No one has claimed responsibility for the attack, which took place hours before an edition of Charlie Hebdo hit news stands featuring a cover-page cartoon of Mohammad and a speech bubble with the words: "100 lashes if you don't die of laughter."

    The weekly, known for its irreverent treatment of the political establishment and religious figures, bore the headline "Charia Hebdo," in a reference to Muslim sharia law, and said that week's issue had been guest-edited by Mohammad.

    The incident pits Europe's tradition of free speech and secularism against Islam's injunction barring any depictions seen as mocking the prophet. The publication of cartoons of Mohammad in a Danish newspaper in 2005 sparked unrest in the Muslim world in which at least 50 people were killed.

    While French Muslim groups criticized Charlie Hebdo's work, they also condemned the fire-bomb attack. The head of the Paris Mosque, Dalil Boubakeur, told a news conference on Thursday: "I am extremely attached to freedom of the press, even if the press is not always tender with Muslims, Islam or the Paris Mosque."

    "French Muslims have nothing to do with political Islam," he said.

    Abderrahmane Dahmane, a Muslim former presidential adviser on religious diversity, said he was not shocked by the Charlie Hebdo front-page and joked himself about the matter.

    "We have a sense of humor in the world of Islam ... what we sometimes say about Islam and the prophet, among ourselves and in the presence of Imams, is worse than what Charlie Hebdo wrote," he quipped.

    Following the fire bombing, Charlie Hebdo staff moved temporarily into the offices of Liberation. The two publications jointly produced Thursday's supplement, which reproduced the Charlie Hebdo cartoon in an article on the back page.

    One headline in the supplement said: "After their office blaze, this team defends the 'freedom to poke fun'."

    "We thought the lines had moved and that maybe there would be more respect for our satirical work, our right to mock. Freedom to have a good laugh is as important as freedom of speech," Charlie Hebdo editor Stephane Charbonnier said in the supplement.

    The supplement included several new drawings by Charlie Hebdo cartoonists. In one, a prophet-like figure tries to restrain his billowing robes in a pose reminiscent of Marilyn Monroe as a draft blows up from Charlie Hebdo newspapers below him. Another shows an airborne fire-bomb with a face in the flames and the caption, "So, is this how you see the prophet?"

    France has Europe's largest Muslim community, numbering about five million out of an overall population of 65 million. The country has a deep tradition of official secularism and adopted a ban this year on women wearing face-covering veils in public.

    Charbonnier told Reuters his newspaper planned to print another 175,000 copies of this week's edition in the coming days after the first print run of 75,000 copies sold out fast.

    Luz, the cartoonist who drew the cover cartoon at the center of the controversy, said it was still unclear who had carried out the attack.

    "Let's be cautious. There's every reason to believe it's the work of fundamentalists but it could just as well be the work of two drunks," he said in the Thursday supplement.

    French paper reprints Mohammad cartoon after fire-bomb | Reuters
     
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    I am well aware of what you have written.

    If Muslims are such a pain for them, why not debar them rather than asking for a problem?

    If the Europeans don't want to clean the sewage or the commode themselves and they require those who will willingly do so, they allow these chaps come in.

    And the Europeans weep!

    I read a report that the Vatican banks on the Indian nuns to do the tougher task, while the European ones have a ball!

    I have seen the same in Mothers House in Kolkata too during the organisation of Mother Teresa's funeral!

    While other religions maybe pacific in their approach to ridicule, the Muslims, apparently are not and hence they are very demonstrative of their displeasure.

    If their demonstrative attitude is not liked by the Europeans, then they should be chucked out pronto!

    But then who will do the menial work for the Europeans?

    Just read the British newspaper, some British Muslim organisation are planning to burn poppies during the Remembrance Day (which is the Day to honour the Dead soldiers of WWI and WWII which includes Indian troops too, composed of Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Christians, Muslims and so on!) and is a very important day for Britain!

    I say, chuck them out to their country of origin even if they are the second or third generation!
     
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    Where there is islam there is blood shed,fear and terror !!!!
     
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    Viva La France!
     
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    Democracy. The Liberals won't let that happen. See, in a democratic system a law cannot be passed without getting a nod from all parties. Which means that Left Liberals get good votebank from migrating Paki/Arab/Somali/Bangladeshi fundamentalist communities.

    These days are long gone mate. It isn't that way anymore. In fact, the liberalism that they created has become a pain around their neck itself.

    Europeans most of them are beginning to wake up to the dream that they're nobody in the new world without respecting others equally or better. But Jihad becomes the other extreme mate.

    What do you think Vatican's message to India is? It is colonialism in the garb of "religious peace". Sorry to say this but this is the reality even if some members don't like it. In the end it is our own who have to do everything.

    Simply because they have the right to do so in non-Islamic societies around the world where mostly democracy and freedom prevails. They should try doing that in China or former Soviet Union. Guess that's why there was no "expressive" attitude ever in these countries. :lol:

    Refer to my first point.

    Refer to my second point.
     

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