French demand Crown Jewels to compensate for 1499 murder of Edward Platagenet

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  1. W.G.Ewald

    W.G.Ewald Defence Professionals/ DFI member of 2 Defence Professionals

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    French demand Crown Jewels from the Queen for 1499 murder of Edward Plantagenet | Mail Online
     
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  3. W.G.Ewald

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    I believe India has a stronger claim when it comes to Britain's riches, including the crown jewels.
     
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    Wasn't the blood of American, British, Canadian and Commonwealth soldiers enough? How many French units took part in Normandy?

    How about the blood of Americans, Brits and Commonwealth soldiers in 1914-1918. As usual, the French are ungrateful 'cheese eating surrender monkeys.'

    Their right to the English Crown is about as good as Idi Amin's was to being the last king of Scotland :rolleyes:
     
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    They do, or at least one or two of them. So does S Africa.
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    Angers will never see the crown jewels, but reminding the English that they were ruled for over 300 years by French monarchs is worth every gram of effort.
     
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    Another failed belief. Have a read of 1000 Years of Annoying the French: Amazon.co.uk: Stephen Clarke: Books

    The French history books really do need a rethink. The French have as much ruled England as Olaf the viking ruled Wales ie never. The Norsemen who conquered northern France (already the start of French capitulation), became the Normans who subsequently conquered England.

    Now if you said England owned more of France than the French King, I may agree :cool:
     
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    Richard the Lionheart spoke no English. :)
     
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    Scalieback Defence Professionals Defence Professionals

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    I know and I also know where he was born. Does not speaking French make you any less French? After all 'le weekend' 'le aeroplane ticket' I could go on about the anglification of the French language, but it wouldn't prove they were Brits any more than I'm French.

    Minor point, but where did he die and who was he fighting :)
     
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    Considering you didn't have a country before the French got there, it is hard for them to own something when they didn't yet exist.

    Where did the Normans live? France
    What language did they speak? French
    Whose religion did they adopt? French
    What state were they a vassel of? France
    Who made up the majority of the Army? French
    What language was the English Court? French
    And who finally won the 100 years war? France

    Who turned backwater England into a modern nation state? France

    Now shut your trap and get those crown jewels. :cool:
     
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    I thought the current royal family of britain was german ?

    i think the only true british monarchs were when they joined with scotland after king henry ?
     
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    They belong to the line of Vikings settled in France!
     
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    No, he's right. The current ruling dynasty in Britain is the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, a German dynasty. Its name was changed to "House of Windsor" because of anti-German sentiment during WWI.

    House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    Battenberg family - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    You all are familiar with Lord Louis, of course.

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    Rubbish. After the Romans conquered Gaul (which is where?) Julius went somewhere else and ran away. Only Claudius did it. Another sign of French early capitulation. A national trait it would seem ;)

    you mean the Norsemen (aka vikings) who conquered and occupied northern France.

    Yep. And English contains how many French words?
    Westminster Abbey was already built when they crowned the barstweard William. It was the same religion.
    Not really: The House Of Normandy - Television Tropes & Idioms
    More ill informed 'fact': Battle of Hastings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Yep
    They did. They also burnt their heroine :)
    Even more rubbish. Once we had finally finished off the rebellious northern neighbours (and their French allies) in 1746, we could then venture forth

    Come and get them :) or will you reach into your survival tin which contains only one item, a folded piece of white cloth :cool:
     
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    Descended from the house of Hannover, so yes German.

    You mean King James I, or James VI of Scotland? That line died out not long after the 'glorious revolution' and when we asked a Dutchman to be King.
     
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    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

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    Hi Armand - i think i "might " be speaking for at least a few of us here , if not more , but it would be great if you could somehow tell us more about france and its culture , language - indeed any aspect - we have been so programmed by the english ( mostly our own fault - for letting it happen ) that we would appreciate hearing about others especially the important nation of france ....sometime back there was a Serbian who did that about serbia - so it might be a vague request - see what you would make of it - and many thanks in advance for anything along those line
     
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    Type into Google "french military victories," and click the "I'm feeling lucky" button. That'll give you a good idea :)

    Wiki isn't bad imo as France does have a long and (mostly) noble history: History of France - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    They have been very instrumental in stopping much of English expansion by aiding our enemies (Scotland, America, India etc) throughout history which may explain why the English view is somewhat tainted ;)
     
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    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

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    well im being friendly - and not offended but really you have kinda ( i did say kinda ) corrupted my request - which was to member Armand

    unfortunately you have taken a simple request to someone else and turned it into a kinda warped misunderstanding

    many of us indians want to know more about france - and it does not affect our already EXCELLENT relationship with the UK ( notwithstanding the return of stolen property - eg jewels , gold and silver )

    my position is that regarding military strategy India is now both with the usa-nato group as with the russians- more or less - and the brits saved us from the ottomans and kept us in one piece - we are friends with all three - USA , russians and European Union - so i cant agree that "america and india " are your enemies

    my request to Armand was a sincere desire to learn more about France , the french language, people , their likes dislikes - pity that ( especially after your inappropriate response ) you have little to contribute in that ?
     
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