France ok with civil nuclear liability in India: Hollande

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  1. nrj

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    If true, this is massive development. India can now use French example to make every other supplier country come to Indian terms in nuclear trade. I can't believe how Indian diplomacy pulled it off.

    Does this mean Jaitapur Nuclear plant won't see the fate of Kundakulam?

    Does this mean France is going to get bigger pie in Indian nuclear market?

    Will this help India to rapidly meet domestic energy demands?

    Is France going to replace Russia in bilateral ties with India from military co-operation to strategic partnership ?

     
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  3. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

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    It shows the confidence of French in the technology they are exporting. Most of the nuclear plants in France are build with mutual consent of the local population after extensive security verification.

    So, I think French understand safety concerns better than Russians(who would not care even for their own population). And it is definitely a signal for enhanced nuclear ties.
     
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    good for both of us
     
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    And the first one falls. It will force the others to fall in line!
     
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    Areva EPR reactors are among the best in th. World with a good safety record.
     
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    Well russians were always ready just they want Indians to pay more for 3&4 reactors . Indians aren`t ready for it and they want , they want in less price.
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    It isn't anything special. The chance of meltdown is nill.
     
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    With French Nuclear Technology (I assume for Fast Breeder Reactors) and (hopefully) Uranium for use from Australia, the doubling time needed to introduce Thorium as a fuel will be greatly reduced from the current projection of 2050. That is when we start working on getting a huge chunk of our energy needs catered by Thorium based fuel for which India has the largest reservoirs.

    Great news!

    For anyone interested, the Three Stage Nuclear Power Program is a great read. It was first proposed by the great Dr.Homi Bhabha and has been sincerely researched with developments taking place primarily by BARC. This is basically to eventually start using Thorium to generate electricity which can theoretically power India's requirements for 20,000 to 50,000 years (yes...that has 4 zeroes) based on various estimates of Thorium availability. Will be great if someone in that field could throw some more light on this for the readers.
     
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    france want india , we welcome them
     
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    trackwhack Tihar Jail Banned

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    Awesome news. Obama tera mooh kaala. Oh well, did not mean to be racist there.
     
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    Very shortly these Reactors are going to be a obsolete technologies. Around the world there is a race for replacing the present fusion reactors with Accelerators for generating electricity. This would be much cheaper to construct and without the issues of safety and the waste disposal currently plaguing all reactors.

    A New Accelerator to Study Steps on the Path to Fusion « Berkeley Lab News Center

    An overview of the technology involved

    Indian organisations under DAE are also working along with the other countries on this project. As far as my understanding goes the theory part is over and translating it into practical is the challenge ahead of the engineers.
     
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    @sob. Accelerator driven designs will talk at least 3 decades for the first working reactor to be built, not to mention they are likely to be no more that 200- 300 MW systems. A 1 gw system similar to epr1000 will take at least 50 more years to develop and build. By which time jaitapur will be ready to decommission the eprs which are expected to have a 40-50 year life.

    However,accelerator driven tech may not be the answer. It is just one of several new directions that are being researched.
     
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    With this france has also unofficial grabbed there hand firmly on rafael deal. France is not letting that go anywhere now.
     
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    I know a person involved with this project from the Indian side and as per him the breakthrough could happen in the next 2-3 years. There are sceptics who do not see any breakthrough for the next 2 decades, but we know how fast new technology can come up once a basic breakthrough is achieved.

    In Europe they are building a prototype ADS for generating 600 MWe and the best part for India is that this will be using Thorium as the Nuclear fuel.

    Accelerator-driven Nuclear Energy | Accelerator Driven Systems | Transmutation
     
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    French are the leaders in the research for a fast breeder reactor. We have had a prototype Fast breeder reactor at Kalpakkam near Chennai and it has been working for last 10-12 years and now the work is on to bring it up to a larger scale. During the early 2000s there was a lot of problem as key technology and components were denied to India by European/American firms as India was not part of the NSG and other conventions. Now this problem seems to be over and with France also going along with the Nuclear liability bill, we can expect some good news to be coming soon.
     
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    Wasn't that an experimental thorium reactor?
     
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    Yes it was an experimental reactor and the power output is beng used to run the Reverse Osmosis plant to filter the sea water. On the same design they are trying to upscale to a larger capacity reactor.
     
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    @Yusuf,

    a very interesting comment from an American from the article that you just posted

     
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    So the opposition had done a good work on Nuclear Liability Bill ?
     
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