France and others weapons: Pacific security?

Apollyon

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Really I suggest u better check Google what was french role in libya ,:D
if u are lazy tell me i would post the source for u to read.Infact US did send F15 to bomb target But LLOLLZZ one of it crashed shamelessly :rofl:
Infact US role was majority in arming the rebels only nothing else.
a Ohio class SSGN along with a Royal Navy warship rained Tomahawk on Libya and destroyed most of the Air Defense Radar and systems before aerial bombing started ... :rolleyes:

also any given day F-15SE > Rafale

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France, a country lost almost all wars in last couple hundred years. I would have much more respect to Germany than France
Really? Since 1781 we won the American Revolution, 5 wars of the coalition with Napoleon conquering most of Europe. Defeated Russia in the Crimean War. Conquered Mexico. Defeated China... twice. Put down a dozen major rebellions. We won WWI. In modern times we completely destroyed an Iraqi division with no losses, Successful air campaign in Iraq with no losses. Successful air campaigns in Bosnia, Kosovo with no loss. Fast forward to last year and we overthrew the dictator of Ivory Coast and did most of the work defeating Gaddafi.

I will compare that to Chinese victories any day. :laugh:
 

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France on its own is not a major naval power in the APAC region. And no Asian navy comes close to matching the capabilities of USN.
 

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Really? Since 1781 we won the American Revolution, 5 wars of the coalition with Napoleon conquering most of Europe. Defeated Russia in the Crimean War. Conquered Mexico. Defeated China... twice. Put down a dozen major rebellions. We won WWI. In modern times we completely destroyed an Iraqi division with no losses, Successful air campaign in Iraq with no losses. Successful air campaigns in Bosnia, Kosovo with no loss. Fast forward to last year and we overthrew the dictator of Ivory Coast and did most of the work defeating Gaddafi.

I will compare that to Chinese victories any day. :laugh:
Fine, China doesn't have many victories either but we don't surrender :facepalm:. If France is such a rightful force, then you should stop advocating nuclear holocaust against any other country.
 
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Fine. If France is such a rightful force, then you should stop advocating nuclear holocaust against any other country.
It was one of your 50 cent buddies talking about flattening Paris first. The consequences of trying are 300 warheads falling on your cities. Anyone trying to discount the French nuclear arsenal is loony.
 

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Yes, time has changed. 200 years ago France and England were considered as world super power. Now the glory time has passed and their influence is dwindling.
But not of france ,becoz french though a NATO ally but it is a not a boot licker of US like England & germany .Thats the reason it didnt even impose sanctions on india after 1998 nuclear test .meanwhile French even if nato ally their policy has been more independent rather than more US friendly .The french dont force their allies to kiss their A$$es like USA.

France can always reaffirm their commitment to Asia-Pacific. But don't expect many people to care and take notice. If you don't do many businesses with us, if you don't have many investments, if your former colonies are not enthusiastically welcoming you back, then you don't expect to play a big role.
LOLLZ
french have strong relationship with
1) taiwan
2) malaysia
french have a strong presence in that region but their influence is always lesser than US & ofcourse China has presence due to geographical proximity &
it's growing chinese navy
 

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a Ohio class SSGN along with a Royal Navy warship rained Tomahawk on Libya and destroyed most of the Air Defense Radar and systems before aerial bombing started ... :rolleyes:
but out of 110 tomahawk fired how many hit the target no one can accurately say:lol:

also any given day F-15SE > Rafale
yes in ur wet dreams ,plz change your bed sheet & diapers when u wake up:D
 

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There are many here who should be treated as was done in those times :D
 

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Has France the military assets to be a player in far off Pacific?
 

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Has France the military assets to be a player in far off Pacific?
Sir, carrier, nuclear subs and other surface combatants. I think they can hold their own.
 

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Sir, carrier, nuclear subs and other surface combatants. I think they can hold their own.
One has to see the French Global Threat Analysis.

Then they have to have bases in the Pacific and also enroute.

And above all, the economy!

How big is their armed forces, soldier, air force and most importantly, navy.

It must be remembered that they have strategic and economic interest in Africa (more than others) and the Middle East.
 

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F-15SE Radar : AN/APG-63v3

Due to larger aperture size (antenna size 0.9 m) and 1500+ T/R Modules and superior antenna it is supposed to have 10%-15% greater range than AN/APG-79 AESA of F-18SH with similar processor ....now please compare it with Rafale's RBE2 AESA .... :rolleyes:

This is the most capable radar in a fighter aircraft in the world. The system is as advanced as that of the Air Force's most advanced fighter -- the F-22 Raptor.
Targetting Pod :

F-15SE : LM Sniper XR (ATP)

The first time in the history of targeting pods, it allows pilots to pick out even individual enemy soldiers on the ground from outside jet noise ranges .... :becky:.
The ATP can acquire targets at altitudes of up to 50,000 feet

F-15SE Full Load T/W Ratio (with newer F110-GE-129 ) : .7138
Rafale Full Load T/W ratio : .6173

Rafale Air-to-ground:
MBDA Apache ( Range : 140km, Speed : mach .80 )
Storm Shadow-SCALP EG ( ALCM, Range : 250km, Speed : mach .80 )
AASM (PGM)

F-15SE :

Missiles :
AGM-65 Maverick ( tactical missile, Range : 22Km)
AGM-130 ( Range : 60Km, Warhead : 240Kg )
AGM-84 Harpoon ( Anti Ship, Range : 315Km, Speed : mach .70 )
AGM-84K SLAM-ER ( Standoff Missile, Range : 250Km )
AGM-154 Joint Standoff Weapon ( Low altitude launch - 22Km , High altitude launch - 130Km )
AGM-158 Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile ( Range : > 950Km .... :borat: )

Bombs :
GBU-27 Paveway III
JDAM (PGM, Range : 28Km, available with Laser Seeker )


1.) but out of 110 tomahawk fired how many hit the target no one can accurately say


2.)yes in ur wet dreams ,plz change your bed sheet & diapers when u wake up
1. much more than it would have been French or Indian
2. not worth a Reply

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One has to see the French Global Threat Analysis.

Then they have to have bases in the Pacific and also enroute.

And above all, the economy!

How big is their armed forces, soldier, air force and most importantly, navy.

It must be remembered that they have strategic and economic interest in Africa (more than others) and the Middle East.
The Chaleix naval base in New Caledonia can base the entire CdG battle group. You can also preposition anything you want at La Reunion for transit. Several other smaller naval bases on the way. The infrastructure is already there to defend or go on the offensive in Asia Pacific. France has budgeted to deploy abroad a carrier task force, 78 land based fighters and 30,000 troops for any commitment. This can be doubled in a crisis. Funding for unplanned action comes from supplementals to the defence budget. Economy doesn't matter if national sovereignty is at stake as you will spend whatever it costs.

French Naval bases and EEZ
 

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F-15SE Radar : AN/APG-63v3

Due to larger aperture size (antenna size 0.9 m) and 1500+ T/R Modules and superior antenna it is supposed to have 10%-15% greater range than AN/APG-79 AESA of F-18SH with similar processor ....now please compare it with Rafale's RBE2 AESA .... :rolleyes:



Targetting Pod :

F-15SE : LM Sniper XR (ATP)





F-15SE Full Load T/W Ratio (with newer F110-GE-129 ) : .7138
Rafale Full Load T/W ratio : .6173

Rafale Air-to-ground:
MBDA Apache ( Range : 140km, Speed : mach .80 )
Storm Shadow-SCALP EG ( ALCM, Range : 250km, Speed : mach .80 )
AASM (PGM)

F-15SE :

Missiles :
AGM-65 Maverick ( tactical missile, Range : 22Km)
AGM-130 ( Range : 60Km, Warhead : 240Kg )
AGM-84 Harpoon ( Anti Ship, Range : 315Km, Speed : mach .70 )
AGM-84K SLAM-ER ( Standoff Missile, Range : 250Km )
AGM-154 Joint Standoff Weapon ( Low altitude launch - 22Km , High altitude launch - 130Km )
AGM-158 Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile ( Range : > 950Km .... :borat: )

Bombs :
GBU-27 Paveway III
JDAM (PGM, Range : 28Km, available with Laser Seeker )




1. much more than it would have been French or Indian
2. not worth a Reply

:cool2:
SE is more of a paper plane with no orders in place afaik.

I dont think it is fair to compare it with Rafale.

Correct me if I am wrong:namaste:
 

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Rafale Air-to-ground:
MBDA Apache ( Range : 140km, Speed : mach .80 )
Storm Shadow-SCALP EG ( ALCM, Range : 250km, Speed : mach .80 )
AASM (PGM)
Rafale has the best stand-off weapons...

 
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F-15SE Radar : AN/APG-63v3

Due to larger aperture size (antenna size 0.9 m) and 1500+ T/R Modules and superior antenna it is supposed to have 10%-15% greater range than AN/APG-79 AESA of F-18SH with similar processor ....now please compare it with Rafale's RBE2 AESA .... :rolleyes:
OH BOY!!
those T/R modules drama i have seen much in EF vs rafale thread.i would to like to enlighten u that Rafale thanks to it's 5th GEN spectra EW suite has unique ability of passive detection(electro magnetic EM) of all aerial targets when they are in active mode (radar turn on) from more than 100 miles away & not only that it can also cue it's air to air missiles without turning on it's own aesa radar for stealth reason .this capabilty other than rafale only F22 raptor ALR 94 system has. ALso f35 may have it no confirmation yet.

So even if a plane has 2000 T/R modules on it's AESA radar it doesnt going to have any edge on rafale as if u turn on the radar ,Rafale's spectra would be able to detect it & cue it's meteor BVRAAM towards it. without turning on it's own aesa radar for stealth reason.That LPI word associated with AESA radar is sort of MYTH as usually in battle between LPI Vs ESM usually ESM wins.
Nowadays pilots use AESA radar for jamming purpose only & rely on AWACS for target location through link 16 capabilty.



Targetting Pod :

F-15SE : LM Sniper XR (ATP)
Blaahh....
check about rafale's damocles targetting pod
1)DAMOCLES LASER DESIGNATION POD:

http://www.dassault-aviation.com/fileadmin/user_upload/redacteur/Defence/Rafale/FoxThree_Fox15.pdf
Damocles XF extended features:

http://www.dassault-aviation.com/fi...dacteur/Defence/Rafale/Fox_Three_N_14_UK2.pdf

funny thing is even Saudia arabia is considering to have it installed in their typhoon fighters .(lolllZ)

FROM JANES DEFENCE WEEKLY APRIL 2012

LM Sniper XR (ATP) has advantage over DAMOCLES in having a supersonic, low-observable design results in a substantial reduction in drag and weight & better stealth. meanwhile damocles design is larger resulting stealth disadvantage & more drag issues.





F-15SE Full Load T/W Ratio (with newer F110-GE-129 ) : .7138
Rafale Full Load T/W ratio : .6173
dude
do u know that F15 silent eagle is going to have install radar blockers in order to hide it's engine blades which are big contributer of RCS.Plz Note that radar blockers interfere with engine inlet airflow hence decrease engine performance to some extent.so obviously would have some effect on T/W ratio.
It cant supercruise like Rafale being disadvantage.
meanwhile rafale is considerably more manuveurable than F15 eagles .It has proven it's dogfight skills in every aerial exercsie it has done
plz read what i am posting here

3)RAFALE'S SUPERB PERFORMANCE IN AERIAL EXERCISE WITH MIRAGE 2000 & f16:

http://www.dassault-aviation.com/fi...resse/lbg07/defense/rafale/foxThree_nr_10.pdf

RAFALE THRASHING TYPHOON 9-1 in Solenzara, 2009.

A first indisputable skirmish

The Armée de l' Air has been able to experience this superiority in dogfight in September 2009, during an exercise organized by the French and British headquarters, during a deployment on the Solenzara airbase in Corsica.

Few days , the EC-1/7 stands next with the Royal Air Force transformation squadron on typhoons. The English have thought of everything, and introduce to the French pilots the simulated engagement patterns they wish to practice facing the Rafale. The French pilots push back a smile: the conditions of the exercice are, on paper, custom-made for the Typhoons , they plan within visual range fights , 1 vs 1, under 20,000 ft and at 350 knots. Whatever. The 'Provence' squadron takes up the gauntlet ... The 2 planes take off, then meet up at 18 000 ft to start the exercise. The aircraft are flying on the same trajectory with about 2 km of lateral separation. "Turn Away" with this announcement, the pilots turn 45 ° outward, to move away from each other. A few seconds later, the "turn in" and the planes turn toward each other to meet face-to-face in the sky. Once both aircraft is within visual range , its the ultimate ad: "Fight's on!". The first skirmish is indisputable. It need less than 40 seconds and only 3 crossing for the Rafale pilot to have its gun in firing position. However, the pilots flying the two planes are far from beginners. While the English is considered a Typhoon specialist in air-to-air, the "Provence" pilot has also a solid experience in within visual range combat.

Nine wins, one defeat

This initial result is not a fluke: the two next passes end also to the advantage of the Rafale. In total, 4 different engagements will take place in Corsica, for a total of 9 wins against 1 defeat for the french fighter. A nice demonstration of force that inspires the pilots the following moral: without mastery, power is nothing ... It is however an area where the Typhoon is victorious: the one of exports. While the Rafale is still looking for a first client, the Typhoon has already been sold to Saudi Arabia and Austria, and remains opposed to the Rafale in Switzerland and India.


Rafale News - Page 101
Rafale's War Game with F-22 (2009)



One defeat for five draws.

The U.S. Air Force, however, put strict conditions surrounding the confrontation: the Raptor will not participate in any BVR exercise with foreign aircraft. The American pilots only accept to confront in dogfight, 1 vs 1, against crews that participate in the exercise. Pilots of the 1/7 take their chance ... and the results will be rather promising: on 6 engagements, only one has resulted, according to the French aviators, with a straightforward victory for the F-22A. The other 5 have ended with a 'draw' ,a situation of equality that can be obtained by various parameters: Dual protracted beyond a preset time,crossing of the floor set for the exercice ...
2 main parameters give the advantage to the Raptor in dogfight: the thrust vector and the enormous power conferred by its 2 reactors, which give each twice the thrust of the M88! Although it is much heavier than the Rafale, the F22A maintains a formidable manceuvrability that allows it to leave the most delicate BFM situations; even if it loses a lot of energy during maneuvers with the highest angle of attack, this energy can be quickly recovered by its engines.
But the french pilots are careful to qualify the Raptor as invulnerable: "Facing an F-22A, the Rafale can be put in firing position but it must do it very quickly, lest the roles reversed if the battle drags on" summarizes a French aviator.
Rafale News - Page 101
 

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