Force Multiplier on SU 30MKI - Elta ELL-8222 self protection jamming pod

[Bornubus]

I believe this is for Frying the Seekers of incoming BVRs and A Amissiles.This POD is installed both on MKI and Bisons gave tough time to USAF at COPE.

The Elta ELL-8222 self protection jamming pod, currently flying with multiple air forces around the world, including the USAF’s 65th Aggressor Squadron located at Nellis AFB, Nevada, is a bolt-on, highly potent weapon system. Pilots have told me that these pods can literally make an enemy target disappear until they are too close to employ their aircraft’s superior beyond visual range attack capabilities. In other words, the ELL-8222 goes some distance at leveling the playing field even in a highly “asymmetric” air combat situation, such as a flight of upgraded MiG-21s packing this pod vs a flight of F-15Cs equipped with mechanically scanned array versions of the APG-63 radar set. In a time of helmet mounted sights if even a vastly inferior aircraft can make it to the merge with a vastly superior one, they have a chance of coming out on top. In other words, as range decreases a super fighters tactical advantage also decreases. The ELL-8222 provides a medium for air forces to realize this reality. Further it is much cheaper to buy bolt on advanced jamming systems than to purchase cutting edge aircraft that cost many tens of millions of dollars each. Self protection pods like this keep older “legacy” platforms combat relevant, and thus prolongs their time in inventory, which saves big bucks for cash strapped air forces.


The Elta ELL-8251 is the state of the art when it comes to self escort jammers with an incredibly robust capability when it comes to evading, degrading, spoofing and blinding enemy surface to air missile and search radar installations. Self escort jammers like this offer the very best solutions to air forces who cannot afford a fleet of dedicated electronic warfare and attack aircraft like the E/A-18G Growler or E/A-6B Prowler.

 

[Bornubus]

@pmaitra
@Sakal Gharelu Ustad
@LETHALFORCE
@Kunal Biswas

Mods kindly edit the title,i made the thread on other forum and copied its name by mistake.

 

[Bahamut]

It is a good news ,what about spice 250 bombs for Su 30 MKI

 

[Bornubus]

It is a good news ,what about spice 250 bombs for Su 30 MKI

We have Paveway 2 and Popeye,talks are on for SPIKE and SPICE.

 

[pmaitra]

@pmaitra
@Sakal Gharelu Ustad
@LETHALFORCE
@Kunal Biswas

Mods kindly edit the title,i made the thread on other forum and copied its name by mistake.

What title do you want? Tell me, I will change it.

 

[Bornubus]

What title do you want? Tell me, I will change it.

Someone already did


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[Kshatriya87]

@Bornubus Doesn't this jamming pod affect the aircraft's own targeting system? Won't it hinder aircraft's own radar?

 

[Bornubus]

@Bornubus Doesn't this jamming pod affect the aircraft's own targeting system? Won't it hinder aircraft's own radar?

How can a Jammer affects its own or friendly Radars,I am not sure.

 

[Kshatriya87]

How can a Jammer affects its own or friendly Radars,I am not sure.

Jammers work by sending signals right? What if those signals interfere with radar/targeting system signals.

 

[Chinmoy]

Jammers work by sending signals right? What if those signals interfere with radar/targeting system signals.

Actually no. You are true in saying that jammers send out signal to block the incoming signals. But in doing so, it does send an array of radio waves differing in frequency and wavelength too. This burst of alternating and diversification of waves does create a huge radio noise for the seeker. It doesn't completely hide you from the seeker, but what it does is that, it would make the seeker so confuse that it would not be able to distinguish any target clearly.
It doesn't interfere with you own system because its not a transceiver, instead its only a transmitter. A very good example could be found in the convoy of any VVIP. Whenever such a convoy pass through, you might have noticed that if you are listening to any FM station or talking on phone, for that time being there would be only static. But the person sitting in that vehicle carrying jammer would be able to make their call without any problem.

 

[Bahamut]

@Bornubus Doesn't this jamming pod affect the aircraft's own targeting system? Won't it hinder aircraft's own radar?

Jammer jams a particular frequency ,if the radar does not operate in that frequency then it is not effective but if it does then it switch to a different frequency .

 

[Kshatriya87]

Thanks @Chinmoy @Bahamut just an amatuer doubt.

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[Dark Sorrow]

@Bornubus Doesn't this jamming pod affect the aircraft's own targeting system? Won't it hinder aircraft's own radar?

To a certain aspect they do. In modern system system are multiplexed in frequency, time and code domain.
When you use your jammer you know how exactly how the jammer is operating be it I/Q data, code patterns, Spatial location, etc. This patterns are fed to your Radar computer this enables its work even if jamming is in progress (sometime at reduced capacity).
Modern radars have capabilities to isolate RF Emitter if you have its spatial location.
The degree of sophistication decides how efficiently, quickly and properly you do it.

 

[Bornubus]

What are the anti Runway munitions available for SU 30 and Mig 29 ?

@gadeshi

 

[Super Flanker]

What are the anti Runway munitions available for SU 30 and Mig 29 ?

@gadeshi

I believe that there is such a Weopon which can be used to attack enemy Airfields. Its called the DRDO SAAW(Smart Anti Airfield Weopon) the Name says it all!
here is a picture of the SAAW Weopon and how it infact actually looks like:

it has been Integrated in the SU-30 MKI Aircrafts as of 2021 but I am not sure about MIG-29 though.

 

[Dark Sorrow]

I believe that there is such a Weopon which can be used to attack enemy Airfields. Its called the DRDO SAAW(Smart Anti Airfield Weopon) the Name says it all!
here is a picture of the SAAW Weopon and how it infact actually looks like:
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it has been Integrated in the SU-30 MKI Aircrafts as of 2021 but I am not sure about MIG-29 though.

SAAW in integrated on Su-30 MKI, Jaguar, Hawk-i and will interfaced on Tejas and CATS Warrior in future.

Its integration with Mig-29 is not confirmed.
Probably after Mig-29 gets Indian mission computer it may be interfaced with Mig-29.

 

[Super Flanker]

SAAW in interfeced on Su-30 MKI, Jaguar, Hawk-i and will interfaced on Tejas and CATS Warrior in future

I know that SAAW is Integrated with SU-30 MKI, hawk I and jaguar and will be Integrated on upcoming Tejas platforms like Tejas mk1a, Cats Warrior and also Tejas MK-2.

Its integration with Mig-29 is not confirmed.
Probably after Mig-29 gets Indian mission computer it may be interfaced with Mig-29.

Hopefully the integration will be done with MIG-29 after MIG-29 gets Indian Mission computer. Nothing much to comment here. Anyways SU-30 MKI will be able to carry more than 32 such Bombs , so it will be an Awesome thing to say the least.