For those who use RIP on DFI

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

RIP not the right word for followers of Dharmic Religion

Avoid Resting in Peace

Anyhow, getting back to the matter of Balasaheb's death and the usual "RIP" nonsense. I say it is nonsense because "rest in peace" or its Latin original "requiescat in pace," implies a belief in the concept that at death, the body is separated from the soul, and so the body is buried while the soul rests elsewhere until the final day of judgement when some "god" unites the body with the soul and then assigns some to "heaven" and others to "hell."

I find the whole notion of heaven and hell, and its necessary correlate of a judgmental "god" who hands out eternal rewards and punishments, utterly insane and repulsive. It's all very fine for people who profess the Abrahamic faiths to wish their co-religionists RIP but others would do well to respect people of different faiths and not wish them RIP.

The article is here for those who are interested: Atanu Dey on India's Development � Blog Archive � Thoughts on the Passing of Shri Balasaheb Thackeray

 

[W.G.Ewald]

So this Hindoo curmudgeon complains about RIP but offers nothing in lieu of the phrase? The real bug up his ass is conversions to Christianity, if you read the blog.

However, you might look at this link.

Hindu Quotations for Condolence

And three scripture quotes from the despised Abrahamic faiths.

Isaiah 43:2 When you pass through the waters, I will be with you; and through the rivers, they shall not overwhelm you; when you walk through fire you shall not be burned, and the flame shall not consume you.

Matthew 5:4 Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.

2 Corinthians 1:3–4 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

So this Hindoo curmudgeon complains about RIP but offers nothing in lieu of the phrase? The real bug up his ass is conversions to Christianity, if you read the blog.

However, you might look at this link.

Hindu Quotations for Condolence

You probably missed it, Ewald! He wrote it in the last line. Hindus normally use "Om Shanti Om"--close to saying universal peace.

Also, in the funeral procession most people use -"Ram nam satya hai", which is close to accepting death as a reality.

 

[pmaitra]

For all I care, I have learnt something new.

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

For all I care, I have learnt something new.

Same for me. But you can read Atanu's blog for some economics as well...It is very close to Friedman style economics.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

In Norse mythology, a valkyrie (from Old Norse valkyrja "chooser of the slain") is one of a host of female figures who decide which soldiers die in battle and which live. Selecting among half of those who die in battle (the other half go to the goddess Freyja's afterlife field Fólkvangr), the valkyries bring their chosen to the afterlife hall of the slain, Valhalla, ruled over by the god Odin. There, the deceased warriors become einherjar. When the einherjar are not preparing for the events of Ragnarök, the valkyries bear them mead. Valkyries also appear as lovers of heroes and other mortals, where they are sometimes described as the daughters of royalty, sometimes accompanied by ravens, and sometimes connected to swans or horses.

Valkyrie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[LurkerBaba]

Re: RIP not the right word for followers of Dharmic Religion

The article is here for those who are interested: Atanu Dey on India's Development � Blog Archive � Thoughts on the Passing of Shri Balasaheb Thackeray

On the same note.

Did any "Hindu" find the movie "Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara" contrary to their beliefs ?

 

[KS]

Well the same goes for the usage of the word "Insh'allah" by Hindus as some fasionable term.

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

Re: RIP not the right word for followers of Dharmic Religion

On the same note.

Did any "Hindu" find the movie "Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara" contrary to their beliefs ?

I did not think about that!! This gives another reason to hate the movie now other than the pathetic role played by Roshan!

 

[Singh]

You probably missed it, Ewald! He wrote it in the last line. Hindus normally use "Om Shanti Om"--close to saying universal peace.

Also, in the funeral procession most people use -"Ram nam satya hai", which is close to accepting death as a reality.

RIP doesn't have any connotation for a majority of the people other than to show their grief and bereavement. Any religious connotation or christian propaganda is a CT :tinfoil3:

Just like saying OMG doesn't mean one believes in God, esp the Abrahamic concept of God and that Jesus is the Son of God etc.

Ram Nam Satya hai (Ram's name is the truth) is used during funeral procession but it could mean either that this whole world is an illusion, and only Ram's Name is the truth rather then accepting death as a reality or even finality, but then I digress.

People use the term bhagwan unki atma ko shanti dey ( May God grant the deceased soul peace) to express grief.

 

[Singh]

Well the same goes for the usage of the word "Insh'allah" by Hindus as some fasionable term.

A lot of North Indians use terms like Mashallah or Subhanallah. Its part of North Indian lexicon. Although Lahaul Wilaquwat etc. terms are falling out of fashion.

 

[Singh]

Re: RIP not the right word for followers of Dharmic Religion

On the same note.

Did any "Hindu" find the movie "Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara" contrary to their beliefs ?

You fool, its a very esoteric title. Those who practice ZNMD are striving for Moksha. You won't get it.

 

[LurkerBaba]

I did not think about that!! This gives another reason to hate the movie now other than the pathetic role played by Roshan!

Well the same goes for the usage of the word "Insh'allah" by Hindus as some fasionable term.

Notice that "Karma is a bitch" is also a fashionable term. So Hindus will happily gulp down terms which have been re-exported.

RIP doesn't have any connotation for a majority of the people other than to show their grief and bereavement. Any religious connotation or christian propaganda is a CT :tinfoil3:

Just like saying OMG doesn't mean one believes in God, esp the Abrahamic concept of God and that Jesus is the Son of God etc.

Ofcourse its not Christian propaganda. Its simply globalization

Hindus don't give much thought when such terms are said. Heck, even terms like "Jeez/Jesus" are becoming common

Indian civilization will be confined to the history books in the future

You fool, its a very esoteric title. Those who practice ZNMD are striving for Moksha. You won't get it.

I'm pretty sure the movie didn't hint at Satchitananda with Brahman. (I didn't watch the movie though)

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

RIP doesn't have any connotation for a majority of the people other than to show their grief and bereavement. Any religious connotation or christian propaganda is a CT :tinfoil3:

Just like saying OMG doesn't mean one believes in God, esp the Abrahamic concept of God and that Jesus is the Son of God etc.

Ram Nam Satya hai (Ram's name is the truth) is used during funeral procession but it could mean either that this whole world is an illusion, and only Ram's Name is the truth rather then accepting death as a reality or even finality, but then I digress.

People use the term bhagwan unki atma ko shanti dey ( May God grant the deceased soul peace) to express grief.

That is exactly the point author tried to make in his article.

He just argues that one should be thoughtful in the choice of words. Anyway.

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

I'm pretty sure the movie didn't hint at Satchitananda with Brahman. (I didn't watch the movie though)

Lucky one!

 

[civfanatic]

Notice that "Karma is a bitch" is also a fashionable term. So Hindus will happily gulp down terms which have been re-exported.

Karma is a bitch

 

[Cliff@sea]

A lot of North Indians use terms like Mashallah or Subhanallah. Its part of North Indian lexicon. Although Lahaul Wilaquwat etc. terms are falling out of fashion.

Ahmen Ahem . .
The correct romanisation is La hawla wa la Quwwata. (there is no power or might except yours (Allah).

 

[KS]

Indian civilization will be confined to the history books in the future

R.I.P Indian civilization...

 

[Yusuf]

Bhagwan devangat ki aatma ko shanti de. Isn't it commonly used? English translation may his soul get peace shortened to Rest in Peace??

 

[rock127]

"Rest In Peace" or "Bhagwan uski Atma ko Shanti de"

Now who is going to explain the similarity?